Future of Sanaag

[Yusuf Abdi Ali Rashid]

What will happen to sanaag should khaatumo become a federal state? I lean more so towards khaatumo as i am a laascanood resident. However with that being said warsengeli are bah majerteen, and interact with Majerteens on a far larger scale, both politically and economically. Of course there’s always the option that khaatumo would only include the dhulbahante populated sections of sanaag, but that would be improbable.

 

[Macawisley]

What will happen to sanaag should khaatumo become a federal state? I lean more so towards khaatumo as i am a laascanood resident. However with that being said warsengeli are bah majerteen, and interact with Majerteens on a far larger scale, both politically and economically. Of course there’s always the option that khaatumo would only include the dhulbahante populated sections of sanaag, but that would be improbable.

Warsangali don’t only live in Sanaag but they also happen to live in Bari.

The ones in Sanaag should make a Fed State with Dhulbahante and the Warsangalis in PL share with MJ. I think that would be a feasible idea.

 

[Laagite]

What will happen to sanaag should khaatumo become a federal state? I lean more so towards khaatumo as i am a laascanood resident. However with that being said warsengeli are bah majerteen, and interact with Majerteens on a far larger scale, both politically and economically. Of course there’s always the option that khaatumo would only include the dhulbahante populated sections of sanaag, but that would be improbable.

There's a weird disconnect between our subclans, the ones from Ceerigaabo still view SL as their state but the ones in Badhan and Dhahar have cut all ties with SL. The most important thing now is for the Garabsare/Bah Ogayslabe and other Warsan communities in Ceerigaabo to wake up.


Look at this tuulo and tell me SL does wonderful, Qaarar is a tuulo about 48km South East of the capital and also other Warsangeli tuulos in the vicinity have been lacking development for 30+ years.


SL ironically has alot of phantom projects in Sanaag like the failed riig in Carmale, the MCH in Damala Xagare etc. This is why I want our people out of SL Hargeisa holds much of our UN share hostage.

 

[Yusuf Abdi Ali Rashid]

There's a weird disconnect between our subclans, the ones from Ceerigaabo still view SL as their state but the ones in Badhan and Dhahar have cut all ties with SL. The most important thing now is for the Garabsare/Bah Ogayslabe and other Warsan communities in Ceerigaabo to wake up.


Look at this tuulo and tell me SL does wonderful, Qaarar is a tuulo about 48km South East of the capital and also other Warsangeli tuulos in the vicinity have been lacking development for 30+ years.


SL ironically has alot of phantom projects in Sanaag like the failed riig in Carmale, the MCH in Damala Xagare etc. This is why I want our people out of SL Hargeisa holds much of our UN share hostage.

can the tuulos under Sl control be freed without the use of force, or is force a necessary step. Also why are warsengeli in ceerigabo so pro SL, aside from garabsare and bah ogayslabe. Does it stem from economic ties?

 

[Laagite]

can the tuulos under Sl control be freed without the use of force, or is force a necessary step. Also why are warsengeli in ceerigabo so pro SL, aside from garabsare and bah ogayslabe. Does it stem from economic ties?

Outside of those two the others don't involve themselves with politics Muxumud are miyi camel herders and Jibriil Siciid are businessmen.

Its up to Suldaan Siciid if he wants to get into politics, we have to sit together on one table from Cumar,Dubeys,Warlabe,Cismaan and Cabdi Kooge. It makes no sense to have traffic guarded from Yubbe and Hadaaftimo as if its another clan city.

 

[Liban89]

Also why are warsengeli in ceerigabo so pro SL

Because the city is primarily a HY city, specifically Gadhweyn.... They have been the mayor of the city since the inception of SL. I heard at least 50 km radius of ceerigaabo is an undisputed habaryoonis deegaan.

 

[Yusuf Abdi Ali Rashid]

Because the city is primarily a HY city, specifically Gadhweyn.... They have been the mayor of the city since the inception of SL. I heard at least 50 km radius of ceerigaabo is an undisputed habaryoonis deegaan.

I’m not an expert on warsengeli affairs yet but i know your claims are baseless. @Laagite i require your expertise.

 

[Laagite]

Because the city is primarily a HY city, specifically Gadhweyn.... They have been the mayor of the city since the inception of SL. I heard at least 50 km radius of ceerigaabo is an undisputed habaryoonis deegaan.

Ceerigaabo city has 2 parts Suuqa Sare and Suuqa Hoose since it was founded.


Suuqa Sare is predominately Isaaq
Suuqa Hoose is predominately Harti

The universities, the businesses and the schools are in Harti side


As for the 50km radius thing i can debunk it.

Dhaxamo - 7km
Laas Qacable - 17km
Ceeldheere - 38km
Biyoguduud - 40km


Look up small tuulos like Derbi Reer Xaamud and ilkaneeco around Jidali on facebook
The 50km radius is what we call Yubbe subdistrict

Yubbe - 68km
Birxamar - 56km
Qaarar - 48km



Dhoob is surrounded by Qaarar in the North East, Carmale in the East, Masagan in the West and Biyo Guduud in the North.

 

[FAST_LANE]

I am hoping the meeting between the Garaads in Las anod won't bring Khatumo 3, where the president, VP and everything centered around Dhulbahante. The Ideal Solution is to have a word with Warsangeli and make them VP, announce Faqishini Speaker and give ministerial and parliament positions to MJ's in Nugaal and Isaaqs in Sool districts. A new Federal State headed by Dhulbahante with others nothing but name is what needs to happen.

 

[Arkan]

@Laagite What is Warsans largest city/town and how many people live there? And does it have basic infrastructure like water, electricity and paved roads?

 

[Liban89]

Ceerigaabo city has 2 parts Suuqa Sare and Suuqa Hoose since it was founded.


Suuqa Sare is predominately Isaaq
Suuqa Hoose is predominately Harti

The universities, the businesses and the schools are in Harti side


As for the 50km radius thing i can debunk it.

Dhaxamo - 7km
Laas Qacable - 17km
Ceeldheere - 38km
Biyoguduud - 40km


Look up small tuulos like Derbi Reer Xaamud and ilkaneeco around Jidali on facebook
The 50km radius is what we call Yubbe subdistrict

Yubbe - 68km
Birxamar - 56km
Qaarar - 48km



Dhoob is surrounded by Qaarar in the North East, Carmale in the East, Masagan in the West and Biyo Guduud in the North.

Is it true ceerigaabo's fate is ultimately the decision of Gadhweyn?

 

[Yusuf Abdi Ali Rashid]

I am hoping the meeting between the Garaads in Las anod won't bring Khatumo 3, where the president, VP and everything centered around Dhulbahante. The Ideal Solution is to have a word with Warsangeli and make them VP, announce Faqishini Speaker and give ministerial and parliament positions to MJ's in Nugaal and Isaaqs in Sool districts. A new Federal State headed by Dhulbahante with others nothing but name is what needs to happen.

I’m actually against clan designated positions, we should work to achieve one man one vote, but if ssc does become a federal member state than it’s inevitable that for the beginning years of the state, clans will hold positions. However i digress that fiqishini will hold the speaker when there are other clans like ogayslabe that outnumber them. I honestly believe they’ll give the speaker to Majerteen as a show of good faith.

 

[Laagite]

Is it true ceerigaabo's fate is ultimately the decision of Gadhweyn?

Sheeko ciyaal, we are segregated in everything.

@Laagite What is Warsans largest city/town and how many people live there? And does it have basic infrastructure like water, electricity and paved roads?

Badhan it used to be a borehole and only become a city in the late 2000s, now they have university. We used to send alot of our students to Borama back in the day. For water they discovered about a dozen deep wells and the roads well inshallah once the Ceeldaahir Ceerigaabo reaches we'll have our 1st Eastern highway.

Badhan ironically had city planning before the concept was adopted.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

I’m actually against clan designated positions, we should work to achieve one man one vote, but if ssc does become a federal member state than it’s inevitable that for the beginning years of the state, clans will hold positions. However i digress that fiqishini will hold the speaker when there are other clans like ogayslabe that outnumber them. I honestly believe they’ll give the speaker to Majerteen as a show of good faith.

It should be Dhulos, warsans and the Hawiye fiqishini. MJ have PL. We are all united this time for a SSC state inshallah

 

[Yusuf Abdi Ali Rashid]

It should be Dhulos, warsans and the Hawiye fiqishini. MJ have PL. We are all united this time for a SSC state inshallah

I still don’t think speaker will go to fiqishini, there are far larger clans to appease. but it could go either way honestly.

 

[repo]

Warsangeli are the future vice president of the SSC state until that state gets to one man one vote. They will share bread with their brothers, the Dhulbahante of SSC and minorities such as Fiqishini, Dir and Gaheyle.