Former SNM officer Abdirizaq Ahmed Ali lays out the dark truth on Somaliland foundation.

Very informative thread. It shows you that not everything is binary and that certain actors try their best to hijack certain narratives. We all knew this Somaliland Project was full of bullcrap.
 
Everybody knows this tuur was in an alliance with caydiid he was gonna become pres/pm of Somalia. Habar awal, habar jeclo are the only two sub clans that are separatists of isaaq rest are unionists. some even say Abdullahi Yusuf gave arms to the separatists and fueled the conflict even more, so the irir alliance wouldn’t happen and dominate Somalia politically/militarily.

Gaas explains it here in this interview.
 

DR OSMAN

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@Somali Ugaas How u build ur state is how ur state will fall. PL is the only region where a peaceful assembly was done in all of Somalia, no force, no attacks, no threats of violence. It was the most democratic assembly in the whole of horn of africa and a lesson to learn for the whole region.

If u build ur state with a gun n violence, dont cry or wonder why a gun/violence is used to topple your state, ileen adaa 'nidaamkasi' dooratay. This is theoritical and has many observable practical evidence to support it in the world. Look at South Sudan, Sudan, Libya, Iraq, Syria all built thru violence, toppled with violence.

The states who are founded in violence and who do survive are all sanctioned like eritrea-iran-north korea, but their future is SEALED based on this undeniable strong theory, and their just holding off the inevitable violent downfall with 'external enemy' distraction.

SL is in the same situation if given indepedence, it will either be toppled internally thru violence(garhajis) or it may survive and begin supporting 'terrorists, rebels' to create the same instability in it's house elsewhere in the region and then use 'external somali enemy' card to keep the cracks of its foundation from imploding.

Ethiopia uses violence route also and as u can see is always on shaky civil war scenario conditions, becuz they set the 'narrative' to power is thru violence and forcee, therefore that's how they will be toppled also.
 
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DR OSMAN

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The last tweet was very interesting. Very good thread

The most realistic route for SL to gain power in Somalia(which is their real grievance) the rest is just distractions, to tell hawiyes under the 4.5 system to vacate their top post for Dir since Hag has the capital, plus their irir also so it doesn't violate the tribal system.

Dir can then compete inside of itself for president/pm while the capital provides 'tribal check n balance' on government which will lead to better governance or else the capital will riot, this isn't possible when the clan in power is hawiye and the capital is hawiye.

Anything outside of that, will only be seen as more instability jambals with hidden 'motives' that are heading nowheree
 

Aurelian

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The most realistic route for SL to gain power in Somalia under this 4.5 system is to tell their hawiye allies to vacate their top post for Dir since Hag has the capital plus their irir also so it doesn't violate the tribal system. Dir can then compete inside of itself

Anything outside of that, will only be seen as more instability jambals with hidden 'motives' that are heading nowheree
SL shall be divided. I see that coming. A new state from Las Qoray to Buuhoodle.
 

Dalalos_ibn_Adali

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I don't see why a so called MX is this invested in SL history and political grid, explain to me where you see MX interest in this type of discussions. SL whether it fails or succeeds it has no bearing on us.
 

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