For those on finasteride, how's your blood test results looking like?

[JohnCena]

No side effects?

My hair is actually pretty good atm but don't want to risk losing it so looking to jump on fin(assuming I don't get sides.

 

[JohnCena]

@Nak-Muay-Femeu @World @seldiboy @SociallyAwkwardFarax @AbdiFreedom @Kool-Aid @Shimbiris

I know you guys talked about it, not sure if you're still on it?

 

[Smif-N-Wessun]

Dude it's not that serious. I've been taking it for 3 years and experienced no side effects.

 

[JackieBurkhart]

My hair's falling out. Help! @JohnCena

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He looks good in that pic. No wonder he gets all the girls.

 

[SociallyAwkwardFarax]

@Nak-Muay-Femeu @World @seldiboy @SociallyAwkwardFarax @AbdiFreedom @Kool-Aid @Shimbiris

I know you guys talked about it, not sure if you're still on it?

Upgraded to dutasteride recently since I’m trying to see if I can get any more regrowth up front in my temples, I was on Finasteride for the last year and a bit which has mainly helped in stopping further hair loss progression, I didn’t experience any mental or libido problems - as for blood tests, I haven’t taken any though I probably should since I heard dutasteride might elevate liver enzymes.

 

[Waa dhamatay]

If I get HT down the line I’ll hop on fin. I’m incredibly low T as is so there’s nothing to lose

 

[SociallyAwkwardFarax]

If I get HT down the line I’ll hop on fin. I’m incredibly low T as is so there’s nothing to lose

If you’re unfortunate enough to get hit by the norwood reaper don’t be like me and ignore the problem for 5 years, each day that goes by DHT is raping your hair follicles so immediately get on finasteride - an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure, don’t rely on invasive procedures like hair transplants to save your aesthetics and self-esteem.

 

[Waa dhamatay]

If you’re unfortunate enough to get hit by the norwood reaper don’t be like me and ignore the problem for 5 years, each day that goes by DHT is raping your hair follicles so immediately get on finasteride - an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure, don’t rely on invasive procedures like hair transplants to save your aesthetics and self-esteem.

HT is easier tho

 

[SociallyAwkwardFarax]

HT is easier tho

A hair transplant will only save the area you’ve implanted (and the donor areas can’t be overly extracted otherwise you’ll have no hair there) all the other hairs on the scalp are still sensitive to DHT so you’ll just end up like this guy if you don’t continue popping those Finasteride pills

 

[JohnCena]

Dude it's not that serious. I've been taking it for 3 years and experienced no side effects.

Nice! Did you have any previous mental issues prior to taking it ie depression, anxiety?

@SociallyAwkwardFarax @Waa dhamatay

 

[JohnCena]

HT is easier tho

I would only get a HT if I lost almost all the native hair(hair on top) so there wouldn't be any need to take FIN.

 

[SociallyAwkwardFarax]

Nice! Did you have any previous mental issues prior to taking it ie depression, anxiety?

@SociallyAwkwardFarax @Waa dhamatay

Depression isn’t real, anxiety is pretty normal so yeah but if you’re talking about pathological anxiety no.

 

[JohnCena]

Depression isn’t real, anxiety is pretty normal so yeah but if you’re talking about pathological anxiety no.

Depression is real LOL.

Don't tell me your source is Andrew Tate

 

[SociallyAwkwardFarax]

Depression is real LOL.

Don't tell me your source is Andrew Tate

I think you can be sad and lack motivation as a response to overwhelmingly negative stimuli but to be in a state of ‘depression’ is a choice and not something uncontrollable.

 

[JohnCena]

I think you can be sad and lack motivation as a response to overwhelmingly negative stimuli but to be in a state of ‘depression’ is a choice and not something uncontrollable.

Those are just the few factors that contribute to depression.

You can still get depression regardless of lack of motivation

"Depression can cause unexplained periods of hopelessness, sadness, and lethargy. You may also experience suicidal tendencies. These episodes can last for prolonged periods. They may arise suddenly and inexplicably, even when things in your life seems to be going well."

9 Depression Myths

Although depression affects many people around the globe, it remains shrouded in myths and misconceptions. Learn the facts about this disease.

www.healthline.com

There's more to it.

Research suggests that depression doesn't spring from simply having too much or too little of certain brain chemicals. Rather, there are many possible causes of depression, including faulty mood regulation by the brain, genetic vulnerability, and stressful life events.

"Studies show that hormones and brain chemistry, specifically neurotransmitters, also contribute to depression. Generally speaking, people who suffer from depression frequently have different levels of certain hormones and reduced activity in specific neurotransmitter centers than individuals without depression."

I can cite journal articles if you want me to.

 

[SociallyAwkwardFarax]

Those are just the few factors that contribute to depression.

There's more to it.

Research suggests that depression doesn't spring from simply having too much or too little of certain brain chemicals. Rather, there are many possible causes of depression, including faulty mood regulation by the brain, genetic vulnerability, and stressful life events.

"Studies show that hormones and brain chemistry, specifically neurotransmitters, also contribute to depression. Generally speaking, people who suffer from depression frequently have different levels of certain hormones and reduced activity in specific neurotransmitter centers than individuals without depression."

You’re using an anomalous example as a basis for your argument, I had assumed mentally defective individuals were exempt from the conversation

 

[JohnCena]

You’re using an anomalous example as a basis for your argument, I had assumed mentally defunct individuals were exempt from the conversation

Your reasoning is that Depression isn't real because

"I think you can be sad and lack motivation as a response to overwhelmingly negative stimuli but to be in a state of ‘depression’ is a choice and not something uncontrollable."

The research I posted goes against what you're describing.

Post 10 relevant studies that show that "depression isn't real"

 

[SociallyAwkwardFarax]

Your reasoning is that Depression isn't real because

"I think you can be sad and lack motivation as a response to overwhelmingly negative stimuli but to be in a state of ‘depression’ is a choice and not something uncontrollable."

The research I posted goes against what you're describing.

Post 10 relevant studies that show that "depression isn't real"

let’s clearly define depression firstly

the stance you’ve taken to prove the existence of depression is to refer to a subset of the population who are genetically predisposed to a condition of ‘low mood’. Firstly, i made the point that this state of ‘depression’ is a self-medicated issue as of now since there aren’t diagnostic tools in place to 100% pinpoint so called issues.

But one of the main challenges for researchers and doctors hoping to connect depression to low levels of specific brain chemicals is that they don't have a way to consistently and accurately measure them. -

https://www.verywellmind.com/the-chemistry-of-depression-1065137#toc-the-role-of-key-neurotransmitters

MRI scans ‘may’ be able to detect physical and functional changes in the brain that could be ‘markers’ for major depression -

MRI Scans Pick Up Brain Abnormalities of Depression

Experts say MRI scans are helping medical professionals better understand changes in the brains of people with depression.

www.healthline.com

With ‘may’ and ‘markers’ being the key word in that sentence; now that I’ve put aside the group of genetically predisposed ‘mentally ill’ individuals, for the normal population that don’t have this issue that ‘plagues’ them with constant low mood, it’s entirely a matter of how they respond to stress and negativity in their lives - they can either give up control of their minds out of weakness and self-delude themselves into believing in the pseudoscience of depression or actively manage their stress levels and keep their ‘neurotransmitters’ optimal with self-care and discipline.

 

[JohnCena]

let’s clearly define depression firstly View attachment 256559

the stance you’ve taken to prove the existence of depression is to refer to a subset of the population who are genetically predisposed to a condition of ‘low mood’. Firstly, i made the point that this state of ‘depression’ is a self-medicated issue as of now since there aren’t diagnostic tools in place to 100% pinpoint so called issues.

MRI scans ‘may’ be able to detect physical and functional changes in the brain that could be ‘markers’ for major depression -

MRI Scans Pick Up Brain Abnormalities of Depression

Experts say MRI scans are helping medical professionals better understand changes in the brains of people with depression.

www.healthline.com

With ‘may’ and ‘markers’ being the key word in that sentence; now that I’ve put aside the group of genetically predisposed ‘mentally ill’ individuals, for the normal population that don’t have this issue that ‘plagues’ them with constant low mood, it’s entirely a matter of how they respond to stress and negativity in their lives - they can either give up control of their minds out of weakness and self-delude themselves into believing in the pseudoscience of depression or actively manage their stress levels and keep their ‘neurotransmitters’ optimal with self-care and discipline.

The image you posted doesn't even clearly define what depression is.

A better example of describing depression by pubmed is

"Depression is a mood disorder that causes a persistent feeling of sadness and loss of interest. The American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5) classifies the depressive disorders into Disruptive mood dysregulation disorder; Major depressive disorder; Persistent depressive disorder (dysthymia); Premenstrual dysphoric disorder; and Depressive disorder due to another medical condition. The common features of all the depressive disorders are sadness, emptiness, or irritable mood, accompanied by somatic and cognitive changes that significantly affect the individual’s capacity to function. This activity reviews the evaluation and management of depression and the role of interprofessional team members in collaborating to provide well-coordinated care and enhance patient outcomes."

"the stance you’ve taken to prove the existence of depression is to refer to a subset of the population who are genetically predisposed to a condition of ‘low mood’. Firstly, i made the point that this state of ‘depression’ is a self-medicated issue as of now since there aren’t diagnostic tools in place to 100% pinpoint so called issues."


Did you read what I posted above? It explains that the low mood is due to chemical imbalances, not just environmental conditions. What you're describing is depression that's caused by environmental conditions and ignores the fact that depression happens to people who don't have to deal with those issues.