Feeding Our Future: Suspect arrested after attempting to flee the country

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Federal prosecutors indicted Hibo Daar Wednesday with two counts of wire fraud, making her the 71st defendant in the Feeding Our Future case. Hibo Daar is the first defendant in the case to face charges in more than one year.

Hibo Daar, 50, served as executive director of the Minneapolis-based Northside Wellness Center. Her organization contracted with Feeding Our Future and allegedly received $1.7 million in federal funding through the organization between 2021 and early 2022.
 

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Corrupt, fraudster, qumayo, African beach. She needs to be held to account.

I thought she would have tried to run off to Nairobi instead. Somalis in America have a travel fetish for Kenya and go there more than they go to Somalia.
 
Of the millions she received, only 2,000 USD was spent on feeding children in need.

"Prosecutors say defendants in the case stole at least $250 million from the federal government through Feeding Our Future and another organization in Minnesota, making it the largest pandemic fraud in the country."

250 million USD is insane. These people brought the corruption they learned back home and robbed children of food. Money given to alleviate the burden on Somali kids, mind you. That is evil. This is the sort of garbage the people in Somalia do with millions sent for aid grants.

The greedy woman was so stupid that she lied about her travel history, unaware that it was recorded in the systems. I also think her lawyers did a sub-par job because you're informed not to lie about these obvious things.

These Feeding Our Future frauds had so much liquid, the government seized 75 million USD by this year. The rest was spent on luxury living and foreign investments that the US government cannot claim.

Let's see if the US government reallocates those millions to real hunger programs to ensure it's sent to its intended target. If not, we have frauds there as well. Otherwise, I have an issue with the intent behind this.
 
I think these people are lucky they are dealing with this in the dunya. Better than being punished in the Akhira. Stealing from orphans is a huge deal. Allah tells people to feed orphans in the Quran all the time. Imagine stealing from them?
 
Of the millions she received, only 2,000 USD was spent on feeding children in need.

"Prosecutors say defendants in the case stole at least $250 million from the federal government through Feeding Our Future and another organization in Minnesota, making it the largest pandemic fraud in the country."

250 million USD is insane. These people brought the corruption they learned back home and robbed children of food. Money given to alleviate the burden on Somali kids, mind you. That is evil. This is the sort of garbage the people in Somalia do with millions sent for aid grants.

That kind of corporate/institutional corruption exposed in the the Feeding Our Future (FOF) case isn’t something uniquely Somali or even from Somalia. It’s embedded in the broader U.S. welfare contracting system. That’s where the model comes from and that’s how people, including some Somalis, unfortunately get wrapped up in it.

In America most fraud is not done by welfare recipients but welfare and care providers.(Basically those who run the programs and bill the government. That includes nonprofits, shell vendors, and even large companies.)

Here is another recent case for example, mostly involves White American's
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Even White NFL players like Brett Favre have been implicated in these types of schemes just recently. Money intended for welfare recipients was funneled into speeches he never gave and a volleyball facility.
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We of course cannot forget the the Republican senator Rick Scott who defrauded government 1.6 billion. Which is the largest single Medicare fraud in U.S history.

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There is tons of examples it that it happens all the time and it's companies/orgs that receive the money from the government to provide services they don't deliver on.

It’s not just a few bad apples, it’s systemic. In 2014 alone, $25 billion was recovered in fraudulent payments to providers, not recipients.
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So the 225$ million does seem like a lot of money , it is, but it's actually a drop in the bucket in how much money American companies defraud the government each year.

What makes the Somali case stand out isn’t the size of the fraud , it’s the response.
There’s a politicized media frenzy, federal criminal charges, and a broad-brush narrative that implicates an entire community. They are criminally prosecuting individuals , not just civil suits against companies.

They are implicating a bunch of innocent people (many of whom had legitimate operations long before FOF existed) and are being investigated ''simply because they’re Somali or related to someone'', or because they sold goods or services to someone later charged with fraud.

In fact, some defendants have already been acquitted , they were just vendors, wholesalers and running restaurants providing food, unaware of any crime.

Not only the did the Jury find much of what the star witness of the prosecution said false but they acquitted the witness of all the charges like taking bribes and kick backs that they plead guilty to.

So they were essentially making people plead guilty to or testify to doing stuff in exchange for reduced sentences in things they themselves had never done. It fell apart during the defenses cross-examinations.

They also acquitted people of all charges that were operating legitimate companies and was just food distributors. Resteraunts, whole salers etc.
All of this is reported in this segment. The jury was shown photos and video evidence of food being stored, packaged and distributed.

What i find problematic is that they are taking a systemic American problem and blaming an entire ethnic group in the discourse to this ,which only deflects from real institutional flaws.

There is also a big double standard as well because if you noticed from the examples i have shown from White-collar elites and other White Americans engaging in corporate fraud it often results in civil penalties, settlements, or minimal criminal consequences.

Whereas with Somalis and other ethnic's/immigrants dozens of individuals , many of them small business owners are being criminally charged. The legal response faster, harsher and more personal, they go beyond the organizations/companies to target individuals directly

Meanwhile someone like Rick Scott got a slap on the wrist after he defrauded the government billions and walked away with millions in settlement, even after he pleaded the fifth.
 
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That kind of corporate/institutional corruption exposed in the the Feeding Our Future (FOF) case isn’t something uniquely Somali or even from Somalia. It’s embedded in the broader U.S. welfare contracting system. That’s where the model comes from and that’s how people, including some Somalis, unfortunately get wrapped up in it.

In America most fraud is not done by welfare recipients but welfare and care providers.(Basically those who run the programs and bill the government. That includes nonprofits, shell vendors, and even large companies.)

Here is another recent case for example, mostly involves White American's
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Even White NFL players like Brett Favre have been implicated in these types of schemes just recently. Money intended for welfare recipients was funneled into speeches he never gave and a volleyball facility.
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We of course cannot forget the the Republican senator Rick Scott who defrauded government 1.6 billion. Which is the largest single Medicare fraud in U.S history.

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There is tons of examples it that it happens all the time and it's companies/orgs that receive the money from the government to provide services they don't deliver on.

It’s not just a few bad apples, it’s systemic. In 2014 alone, $25 billion was recovered in fraudulent payments to providers, not recipients.
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So the 225$ million does seem like a lot of money , it is, but it's actually a drop in the bucket in how much money American companies defraud the government each year.

What makes the Somali case stand out isn’t the size of the fraud , it’s the response.
There’s a politicized media frenzy, federal criminal charges, and a broad-brush narrative that implicates an entire community. They are criminally prosecuting individuals , not just civil suits against companies.

They are implicating a bunch of innocent people (many of whom had legitimate operations long before FOF existed) and are being investigated ''simply because they’re Somali or related to someone'', or because they sold goods or services to someone later charged with fraud.

In fact, some defendants have already been acquitted , they were just vendors, wholesalers and running restaurants providing food, unaware of any crime.




What i find problematic is that they are taking a systemic American problem and blaming an entire ethnic group in the discourse to this ,which only deflects from real institutional flaws.

There is also a big double standard as well because if you noticed from the examples i have shown from White-collar elites and other White Americans engaging in corporate fraud it often results in civil penalties, settlements, or minimal criminal consequences.

Whereas with Somalis and other ethnic's/immigrants dozens of individuals , many of them small business owners are being criminally charged. The legal response faster, harsher and more personal, they go beyond the organizations/companies to target individuals directly

Meanwhile someone like Rick Scott got a slap on the wrist after he defrauded the government billions and walked away with millions in settlement, even after he pleaded the fifth.
How were they able to go beyond the company/organization and directly go for individuals isn't this the point of an llc inc c corp or whatever
 

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Whereas with Somalis and other ethnic's/immigrants dozens of individuals , many of them small business owners are being criminally charged. The legal response faster, harsher and more personal, they go beyond the organizations/companies to target individuals directly
What the hell are you talking about? Dozens is a huge amount of people and calling them business owners is a stretch. Some of them literally incorporated to scam the program. There's nothing unfair about the response. They scammed the country that took them in, that's the optics. They took advantage of a program meant to feed the poor then they arrogantly tried to lie about it and flee with the loot. I hope they get the maximum sentences.
 

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Corrupt, fraudster, qumayo, African beach. She needs to be held to account.

I thought she would have tried to run off to Nairobi instead. Somalis in America have a travel fetish for Kenya and go there more than they go to Somalia.
She probably booked a round trip to Dubai to make it look like she was not fleeing but was probably destined for Nairobi.
 
What the hell are you talking about? Dozens is a huge amount of people and calling them business owners is a stretch. Some of them literally incorporated to scam the program. There's nothing unfair about the response. They scammed the country that took them in, that's the optics. They took advantage of a program meant to feed the poor then they arrogantly tried to lie about it and flee with the loot. You can run cover and excuse them all you want, they are getting a fair legal trial. I hope they get the maximum sentences.

In that quote you isolated out of context, I was referring to how the justice system tends to handle ethnic minorities and immigrants in a more broad stroke way , not just the FOF case specifically. That’s a pattern seen across various high-profile cases.

And let’s not kid ourselves , there is a double standard. You can look at countless examples of large-scale fraud committed by corporate elites or white-collar figures that result in civil settlements or minor sentences, often without personal criminal liability.

Meanwhile, immigrant communities , especially when the media runs with a narrative , face aggressive federal charges, asset seizures, and the book being thrown at them. That contrast is real.

Nobody is denying that those who committed fraud should be held accountable. but what i continue to say , is that the same level of scrutiny and punishment isn’t applied equally across the board. That’s the real issue.

Also, let’s address the systemic nature of it. Like you said, the same system is being defrauded , but it also actively exploits and extracts from Somalis and other immigrants who pay into that system through taxes, businesses, and labor. Yet when scandals break, they’re portrayed as burdens rather than contributors. That narrative is as dishonest as it is dangerous.

In another thread i explained to @AbrahamFreedom in relation to Canadian immigrants, it’s actually immigrants who subsidize education, social services, and the welfare system, paying into it by the billions.
The whole irony in this is that if it wasn't for these revolving temporary migrants injecting cash and resources into the country , the Canadian economy would have gone through multiple recessions long ago. The immigrants you dislike are paying for and subsidizing education and social services that you enjoy while not having the means to access it themselves.

It actually exposes Canada to be an oligopoly type of economy rather than a free market basically monopolies controlling things and these same elites that benefit from enriching themselves distract by pointing to migrants as the cause.

We already know that the average Somali in America sends 5k each year, that's 500 million in total remittances to Somalia in 2013 alone. Now imagine how many billions more are paid into and generated within the Minnesota economy through Somali owned businesses, labor, consumer spending, and taxes.

So the narratives that you and others are trying to frame that Somalis or immigrants are '' scamming the country that took them in" , completely falls apart when you look at the numbers.. This is about contribution and participation , not theft or fraud as some try to frame it.

In fact, Somalis and other immigrant communities are often the ones being shortchanged. They contribute significantly through taxes, labor, and business activity, but receive far less in return. They’re the ones being scammed left and right , not the other way around.
 
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How were they able to go beyond the company/organization and directly go for individuals isn't this the point of an llc inc c corp or whatever
This is a really good question. I am glad you asked this because the whole point of creating entities like LLCs, Incs, or C-Corps is to separate personal liability from business liability. So the accountability and blame falls on the org/corp and not the individuals.

But there is a legal pretext they can use to go beyond this which is to frame it as a criminal conspiracy. Like for example under statutes like wire fraud or money laundering. Which allows them to pursue individuals if they believe those people personally benefited, directed, or facilitated the fraud.

You can see it in that example segment i showed one of the FOF acquittals they didn't investigate his company Bushra Wholesalers , but he was instead targeted based on his association with a family member who was being investigated.

That shows how weak or indirect connections are sometimes used to justify individual charges, even without clear business wrongdoing.

And don't forget the bogus trafficking case that was eventually thrown out back in 2016 , they used one single false allegation by mentally distrubed person to spin a web of conspiracies, links, that implicated many innocent Somalis.

It's part of wider trend in US history where prosecutors use conspiracy laws to implicate groups based on the actions as few as one or two people even. Basically what they do is criminalize association, so you are potentially guilty by association.
 
This is a really good question. I am glad you asked this because the whole point of creating entities like LLCs, Incs, or C-Corps is to separate personal liability from business liability. So the accountability and blame falls on the org/corp and not the individuals.

But there is a legal pretext they can use to go beyond this which is to frame it as a criminal conspiracy. Like for example under statutes like wire fraud or money laundering. Which allows them to pursue individuals if they believe those people personally benefited, directed, or facilitated the fraud.

You can see it in that example segment i showed one of the FOF acquittals they didn't investigate his company Bushra Wholesalers , but he was instead targeted based on his association with a family member who was being investigated.

That shows how weak or indirect connections are sometimes used to justify individual charges, even without clear business wrongdoing.

And don't forget the bogus trafficking case that was eventually thrown out back in 2016 , they used one single false allegation by mentally distrubed person to spin a web of conspiracies, links, that implicated many innocent Somalis.

It's part of wider trend in US history where prosecutors use conspiracy laws to implicate groups based on the actions as few as one or two people even. Basically what they do is criminalize association, so you are potentially guilty by association.

One thing i also noticed about the U.S justice system especially at the federal prosecutorial level. They usually determine a conclusion by identifying a theory or target early on and build a case around , often seeking evidence to support it, rather than neutrally assessing all sides.

It's like the whole thing is running on confirmation bias. Because prosecutors are under pressure to deliver convictions. They can't walk out of a case saying ''We investigated this and it turned out to be nothing wrong". It makes it seem like the system operates like a performance based business venture than a public institution that is is supposed to serve just impartially(fairly).

That's why the federal conviction rates are high, like more than 90%.
 
In that quote you isolated out of context, I was referring to how the justice system tends to handle ethnic minorities and immigrants in a more broad stroke way , not just the FOF case specifically. That’s a pattern seen across various high-profile cases.

And let’s not kid ourselves , there is a double standard. You can look at countless examples of large-scale fraud committed by corporate elites or white-collar figures that result in civil settlements or minor sentences, often without personal criminal liability.

Meanwhile, immigrant communities , especially when the media runs with a narrative , face aggressive federal charges, asset seizures, and the book being thrown at them. That contrast is real.

Nobody is denying that those who committed fraud should be held accountable. but what i continue to say , is that the same level of scrutiny and punishment isn’t applied equally across the board. That’s the real issue.

Also, let’s address the systemic nature of it. Like you said, the same system is being defrauded , but it also actively exploits and extracts from Somalis and other immigrants who pay into that system through taxes, businesses, and labor. Yet when scandals break, they’re portrayed as burdens rather than contributors. That narrative is as dishonest as it is dangerous.

In another thread i explained to @AbrahamFreedom in relation to Canadian immigrants, it’s actually immigrants who subsidize education, social services, and the welfare system, paying into it by the billions.


We already know that the average Somali in America sends 5k each year, that's 500 million in total remittances to Somalia in 2013 alone. Now imagine how many billions more are paid into and generated within the Minnesota economy through Somali owned businesses, labor, consumer spending, and taxes.

So the narratives that you and others are trying to frame that Somalis or immigrants are '' scamming the country that took them in" , completely falls apart when you look at the numbers.. This is about contribution and participation , not theft or fraud as some try to frame it.

In fact, Somalis and other immigrant communities are often the ones being shortchanged. They contribute significantly through taxes, labor, and business activity, but receive far less in return. They’re the ones being scammed left and right , not the other way around.
This is an another silly argument by you where you skim the top of the issue to feign competence but never look at issues in any great detail. The fact of the matter is these people were incredibly stupid and they opened themselves up to liability by tying themselves directly to paper trails and payments. That is the core issue and why they got caught. If they were smart and put a wall between themselves and the money so it couldn’t be tied directly to them or they were just smarter in general then they likely wouldn’t be going to prison. That is the difference. If it is not possible to commit crimes without disconnecting yourself from the evidence, logic dictates you shouldn’t commit it even if you are immoral. If they were smart and not completely greedy they would have gotten away with it. Their own fault. No victim-hood bs. Bottom line.
 
How were they able to go beyond the company/organization and directly go for individuals isn't this the point of an llc inc c corp or whatever
No coherent system will routinely allow criminal liability to be avoided or shielded. Especially if you are a nobody who they have dead to rights.
 
This is an another silly argument by you where you skim the top of the issue to feign competence but never look at issues in any great detail. The fact of the matter is these people were incredibly stupid and they opened themselves up to liability by tying themselves directly to paper trails and payments. That is the core issue and why they got caught. If they were smart and put a wall between themselves and the money so it couldn’t be tied directly to them or they were just smarter in general then they likely wouldn’t be going to prison. That is the difference. If it is not possible to commit crimes without disconnecting yourself from the evidence, logic dictates you shouldn’t commit it even if you are immoral. If they were smart and not completely greedy they would have gotten away with it. Their own fault. No victim-hood bs. Bottom line.
I'm not making excuses or giving cover for those who actually committed fraud , they deserve to face the legal consequences. Most of the people who got caught were, frankly, reckless and short-sighted. But they were also operating within an American system that has loopholes and structures which incentivize and allow these types of abuses to occur in the first place

That said, are you seriously out here suggesting that the smarter option would’ve been to commit the same crime, just more discreetly? Disconnecting from paper trails? Hiding the evidence? That’s literally crime advice. We shouldn’t be entertaining that at all. No one should be doing this kind of thing in the first place.

And let’s be real , these weren’t career criminals or masterminds in organized crime. Most of them had no idea what they were getting themselves into or how serious the legal consequences would be.

What this should do is serve as a hard lesson. If Somalis want to build and run any kind of organization that receives government or outside funding in the future, there needs to be strict internal oversight. Prevention measures. Legal safeguards. Transparent accounting. And we need to be proactive , hire legal advisors who understand how this system works so we can protect our communities from worst-case outcomes.

Right now the only visible legal support we even seem to have is CAIR-MN, led by attorney Jeylani , and that's not nearly enough. We need more infrastructure, not less.
 
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