OPINION Federalism

[repo]

Centralism is favored by those who are not afraid to compete. Federalism, confederalism and parliamentary selections is favored by those who have no confidence.

The stories these failures tell themselves. Couldn't organize a student council meeting to save their life.

 

[FBIsomalia]

No because those states care about federalism more then most so they put effort in. Other states couldn’t care. E.g abgaal heavily invest in banadir rather than hirshabelle. But if we did, then hirshabelle would be better than pl I’m telling you. Only clan more richer than us are isaaq. But even then, that’s individually. Abgaal collectives could make hirshabelle heaven on earth

You guys cant invest in Hirshabelle, you fight other Somalis for xamar during civil war cause its the capital of Somalia.

So you agree capital to move to other state like SWS?.

 

[repo]

here come the mj horde.

We have something to defend because we built something for our people that they could sustain themselves during the civil war but your people are dying of gaajo and thirst for 3 consecutive decades.

 

[FBIsomalia]

We have something to defend because we built something for our people that they could sustain themselves during the civil war but your people are dying of gaajo and thirst for 3 consecutive decades.

Just wait when xarmajo goes, they will go back to galgaduud sare clacal.

 

[repo]

Banadir is not even 10% of puntland but it is more populated, 10x richer and more developed than PL @DR OSMAN @Maxamed bin Harti sort out your state waryada. You’ll never be better than banadir

It's precisely because you say Xamar is better and it's clear we are not from Xamar that federalism exist. You can't brag to me about a city the Italians built then the Somali government of Siad Barre as a Hawiye achievement. We learned from our mistakes unlike these other people we are doing something about it.

 

[Trapmacalin]

You guys cant invest in Hirshabelle, you fight other Somalis for xamar during civil war cause its the capital of Somalia.

So you agree capital to move to other state like SWS?.

No we fought hg and every other clan they brought along because they tried come to our land and claim it was theirs. If garowe was the capital of Somalia and everything was about clan, if Mx tried take over garowe and brought along every other darood clan against you who’s in the wrong. Be honest

 

[Trapmacalin]

It's precisely because you say Xamar is better and it's clear we are not from Xamar that federalism exist. You can't brag to me about a city the Italians built then the Somali government of Siad Barre as a Hawiye achievement. We learned from our mistakes unlike these other people we are doing something about it.

This is why you shouldn’t speak on anything you don’t know. Only xamarweyne and shangaani was built by italians. Stop bootyclapping for gaal. Other Somalis only built hodan and cabdicaziz. Everything was destroyed during the war and now 90% of district and with hodan being shared with hg, was rebuilt by abgaal. Now xamar is the most beautiful city in Somalia. Stay mad

 

[FBIsomalia]

No we fought hg and every other clan they brought along because they tried come to our land and claim it was theirs. If garowe was the capital of Somalia and everything was about clan, if Mx tried take over garowe and brought along every other darood clan against you who’s in the wrong. Be honest

What clans HG brought with them?. Plus MX cant make treat to anyone. Small harti clan will be enough to wipe them from earth.

 

[Trapmacalin]

What clans HG brought with them?. Plus MX cant make treat to anyone. Small harti clan will be enough to wipe them from earth.

Only two abgaal sub clans, wacdaan cismaan and udjejeen against Every other hawiye subclan, raxanweyne, biyomaal and Madow plus they had their hands on siad barre military equipment as he used to keep it central Somalia during kacaan days. Bit unfair right?

 

[FBIsomalia]

Only two abgaal sub clans, wacdaan cismaan and udjejeen against Every other hawiye subclan, raxanweyne, biyomaal and Madow plus they had their hands on siad barre military equipment as he used to keep it central Somalia during kacaan days. Bit unfair right?

That is why abgaal are great to MJ against Somalia first enemy HG.

 

[Bariire]

Only two abgaal sub clans, wacdaan cismaan and udjejeen against Every other hawiye subclan, raxanweyne, biyomaal and Madow plus they had their hands on siad barre military equipment as he used to keep it central Somalia during kacaan days. Bit unfair right?

Kulaha Unabashedly ''HG used all Hawiyes + Somaliweyne against us Abgaals'' kkkk

Man the fairytales these abgaals tell themselves to sleep well at night, i mean one has to make excuses and lies for themselves after getting his ass whooped by another.

 

[Trapmacalin]

Kulaha Unabashedly ''HG used all Hawiyes + Somaliweyne against us Abgaals'' kkkk

Man the fairytales these abgaals tell themselves to sleep well at night, i mean one has to make excuses and lies for themselves after getting his ass whooped by another.

You never won lol. A green line was established due to no clear winner. So tell me what happened? It’s a well known fact that hg bought backup. Wallah if it was just abg vs hg straight up we would have smoked your ass nigga. That’s a well known fact. Your defo a sheegato lol. Any hg who’s old enough to rember will admit that you guys bought backup

 

[Bariire]

You never won lol. A green line was established due to no clear winner. So tell me what happened? It’s a well known fact that hg bought backup. Wallah if it was just abg vs hg straight up we would have smoked your ass nigga. That’s a well known fact. Your defo a sheegato lol. Any hg who’s old enough to rember will admit that you guys bought backup

Green-line established in a City you claim as your goof, clearly HG won, i mean its equivalent to Abgaals establishing an Green-line in Samareeb or Cadaado after beating HGs

Sxb everyone knows it was HG VS Abgaal, so stop this lying Calacaal its Ceeb and Unbefitting for any clan to make-up some bulshit just because he got his ass whooped.

Anyway lets stop this pointless FKD and next time stop lying about us HGs

As the saying goes that History is Written and No-one can change the Facts.

 

[Trapmacalin]

Green-line established in a City you claim as your goof, clearly HG won, i mean its equivalent to Abgaals establishing an Green-line in Samareeb or Cadaado after beating HGs

Sxb everyone knows it was HG VS Abgaal, so stop this lying Calacaal its Ceeb and Unbefitting for any clan to make-up some bulshit just because he got his ass whooped.

Anyway lets stop this pointless FKD and next time stop lying about us HGs

As the saying goes that History is Written and No-one can change the Facts.

Wallahi I put it on everything I love you had clans like xawaadle and mursade on your side who you later started to beef as you guys are just pure mooriyans. Only reason you guys had a hold in hodan (one fucking district) is because you guys came to the city on a ‘hawiye card’. Plus you guys never took degmos from us that we lived in. Abgaal barely lived in hodan and howlwadag before or after the war. Medina itself is half the city and we have the whole of the north side. We are the exclusive clan in 8 districts and have a large presence in every other. Hg only have 2 how did you win?

 

[FBIsomalia]

You never won lol. A green line was established due to no clear winner. So tell me what happened? It’s a well known fact that hg bought backup. Wallah if it was just abg vs hg straight up we would have smoked your ass nigga. That’s a well known fact. Your defo a sheegato lol. Any hg who’s old enough to rember will admit that you guys bought backup

You are right, we karbash them in mudug 1993 and their grandfather moryaan caydiid call for peace.

In 2015 they used xamar ammo and soldiers to fight us and all of us knows result of it lool.

Dont bother with those sheegto

 

[FBIsomalia]

Wallahi I put it on everything I love you had clans like xawaadle and mursade on your side who you later started to beef as you guys are just pure mooriyans. Only reason you guys had a hold in hodan (one fucking district) is because you guys came to the city on a ‘hawiye card’. Plus you guys never took degmos from us that we lived in. Abgaal barely lived in hodan and howlwadag before or after the war. Medina itself is half the city and we have the whole of the north side. We are the exclusive clan in 8 districts and have a large presence in every other. Hg only have 2 how did you win?

Don't listen to guy claiming others land like north mudug .

 

[SPMLegend]

The 9th Mayor of Mogadishu was Ogaden @Trapmacalin i think it’s time Beesha Absame we’re rightfully represented in that city once more

 

[En_Sabah Nur]

Don't listen to guy claiming others land like north mudug .

@Bariire suffers from post traumatic slave syndrome. He misses the good days when he was under the sultanate and his people didn’t have to eat ayax for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

 

[somalipatriot]

Read about Somali history. Federalism was created to salvage Somalia out of the civil war. Hutu’s destroyed Somalia. Isaaq created their own functioning state, same with reer Puntland. Those two groups have historically been the most influential clans in Somalia, whether it’s in politics, business etc.

The only people who loose under federalism are those that don’t have a history of creating and building institutions on their own.

I hope your changing this mindset of comparing your ethnic Somali brothers to a another ethnic group which has nothing to with this is not wise I do agree that the usc destroyed itself and Mogadishu’s infrastructure by interfighting in november 1991 to April 1992 and not been unified and setting up a government after the topple of barre in November 1991 to April 1992 which was the cause of the famine

 

[FBIsomalia]

@Bariire suffers from post traumatic slave syndrome. He misses the good days when he was under the sultanate and his people didn’t have to eat ayax for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Hobyo glory days .

As slave always they call us to provide them food and security. Galgacyo join police force led by PL, their elections secure by us. In their fight against alkabab they call us.

They should be honest with their self and join PL.