Farmaajo instructing citizwns of Somalia to never criticise him




Farmajo's despotic rhetoric is reaching new levels. He is now instructing citizens of Somalia to never criticise him, because "if you criticise me, you are criticising yourselves".

Same language used by his uncle Afweyne!
 
Focking Pathetic loser he is that xaarmajo, i cant wait for him to leave in 1 years time, the sooner the better he is thrown into the dust bin of history that b0on doqon.
 

Shaolin23

Seeker of knowledge and truth



Farmajo's despotic rhetoric is reaching new levels. He is now instructing citizens of Somalia to never criticise him, because "if you criticise me, you are criticising yourselves".

Same language used by his uncle Afweyne!
Do you know the difference between cay iyo dacaayad insult and criticism 68iq at it's finest
 
Lets be real, he is actually right here. He did not say don't criticize me, but he said don't insult me. Insulting a head of a state is one of the worst crimes and is even punished in liberal countries with a punishment up to 5 years prison.

People who cut these videos to criticize Farmaajo or any politician should be at least fluent at Somali, I see this wrong translations way to often.
 

Ibrahim hassan

Esteemed Excellency
Focking Pathetic loser he is that xaarmajo, i cant wait for him to leave in 1 years time, the sooner the better he is thrown into the dust bin of history that b0on doqon.
Who WIll beat him lol? He's a Somali hero and will have two more terms at least. Then he gets tired and retires.
 

kickz

Engineer of Qandala
SIYAASI
VIP
Lets be real, he is actually right here. He did not say don't criticize me, but he said don't insult me. Insulting a head of a state is one of the worst crimes and is even punished in liberal countries with a punishment up to 5 years prison.

People who cut these videos to criticize Farmaajo or any politician should be at least fluent at Somali, I see this wrong translations way to often.

Thats the problem when criticism starts from "they are not from my qabiil", then everything else has to fit that narrative.
 

Jiron

wanaag
NABADOON
VIP
Being critical of some of the dowlad policies is part and parcel of every healthy nation, there’s nothing wrong with that but I did notice a disturbing pattern with the opposition, they would rather the government and all of its progress fail then to see it succeed because of who is in charge.

I wish we understood that Somalia as a country is bigger than any political group or any federal state. Those are all sub branches of a the main Tree that is our country.

Farmaajo/kheyr and N&N will go one way or another when their time is up, and then we have to roll out their red carpet and support the new party and their policies. :)
 

Tukraq

VIP
Lets be real, he is actually right here. He did not say don't criticize me, but he said don't insult me. Insulting a head of a state is one of the worst crimes and is even punished in liberal countries with a punishment up to 5 years prison.

People who cut these videos to criticize Farmaajo or any politician should be at least fluent at Somali, I see this wrong translations way to often.
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Insulting the head of state is one of the most important freedoms out there, somalia better not lose this freedom
 

repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
VIP
Lets be real, he is actually right here. He did not say don't criticize me, but he said don't insult me. Insulting a head of a state is one of the worst crimes and is even punished in liberal countries with a punishment up to 5 years prison.

People who cut these videos to criticize Farmaajo or any politician should be at least fluent at Somali, I see this wrong translations way to often.
Being able to insult those in power is liberalism. What you are looking for is fascism. Give me one example where you go to jail for insulting a head of state?
 
Being able to insult those in power is liberalism. What you are looking for is fascism. Give me one example where you go to jail for insulting a head of state?

Every country has it's own rule, but here is Germany for you as an example:

German criminal code Β§ 90:

Section 90
Defamation of the President of the Federation

(1) Whosoever publicly defames the President of the Federation, in a meeting or through the dissemination of written material (section 11(3)) shall be liable to imprisonment from three months to five years.

(2) In less serious cases the court in its discretion may mitigate the sentence (section 49(2)) unless the conditions of section 188 are met.

(3) The penalty shall be imprisonment from six months to five years if the act constitutes an intentional defamation (section 187) or if the offender by the act intentionally supports efforts against the continued existence of the Federal Republic of Germany or against its constitutional principles.

(4) The offence may only be prosecuted upon the authorisation of the President of the Federation.

Is Germany based on fasicm or liberal values ?

Edit: Your whole point doesn't make sense, there is no law in this world that gives you the right to insult another person.
 
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repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
VIP
Every country has it's own rule, but here is Germany for you as an example:

German criminal code Β§ 90:



Is Germany based on fasicm or liberal values ?

Edit: Your whole point doesn't make sense, there is no law in this world that gives you the right to insult another person.
Defamation is not the same thing as insulting a person. An insult may be true but its purpose is to disrespect the individual. The other is a false statement intended to harm a person's reputation. There's no law in any liberal country that states you can not insult the head of state and you will never find one.
 
Defamation is not the same thing as insulting a person. An insult may be true but its purpose is to disrespect the individual. The other is a false statement intended to harm a person's reputation. There's no law in any liberal country that states you can not insult the head of state and you will never find one.

No matter wich person you insult - a head of a state or any other person - you will be punished.

Here again the geman law about insult in general:

Section 185
Insult

An insult shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding one year or a fine and, if the insult is committed by means of an assault, with imprisonment not exceeding two years or a fine.

I hope you understand that no matter what person you insult, you comitted a crime. So every law in this world protects the right of the head of a state to not being insulted, since they are also citizens of a country.

The crime to insult the head of a state has a long tradtion in Europe and is called Lèse-majesté.
Secondly the insult of a head of a state is generally speaking seperated into two cases. 1) The insult of the head of the state of the respective country and 2) the insult of a foreign head of a state. Some countries punish both crimes some punish only one and some punish none of them.

Germany punished both till recently. Β§90 is still valid for the defamation of the German president. You are correct this includes an insult with an untrue statement, BUT you will still be punished with the general Β§ 185 I posted, even if the statement true.

For the insult of a foreign head you would have been punished for up to three years, no matter if the statement is true or not. This law was recently repealed after a long debate, where the the Turkish president was insulted by a german citizen. So according to your logics germany was under facism till 2017 ?

Here is the former law.
Criminal offence under Section 103 of the Criminal Code
Insulting foreign heads of state or diplomatic representatives of foreign states has hitherto been considered a separate criminal offence under Section 103 of the German Criminal Code (popularly known as the "lèse majesté section"), provided the Federal Republic of Germany maintains diplomatic relations with the state in question, that there is an equivalent legal provision in place in that country, that the foreign government approaches the German government with a request for criminal prosecution, and that the German government permits the criminal prosecution to go ahead.

In contrast to the crime of insult (as laid out in Section 185 of the German Criminal Code), which stipulates a maximum penalty of one year imprisonment for verbal insult, Section 103 stipulates a maximum penalty of three years imprisonment – an offender found guilty of slanderous insult can in fact face up to five years imprisonment.

I just gave you one example I could give many, but to conclude: Insult is a crime, wich has a severe punishment in liberal counties, no matter who you insult. In certain countries you will be punished with a stricter punishment if you insult the head of your state or a foreign head of a state. Liberalism doesn't give you the right to insult anybody.
 
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