FANO takes Debre Birhan (150 km from Addis)

[GaradShabeel]

For a reason. Clearly you do not know OLF's goal. It is first to clear out the Amharas in the Oromia region, which they are currently doing, not fighting the government immediately and loosing like the Tigrayans or Amharans.

Why would OLF clear Amharas in Oromia when there are Oromos living in the Amhara state?

 

[Zarathustra]

Why would OLF clear Amharas in Oromia when there are Oromos living in the Amhara state?

What are you saying? Firstly, even if there was Oromos in the federal Amhara state, how does that change the fact that OLA's goal is to primarily make Oromia cleared of Amharas living there? Secondly, all the Oromos who live in the federal Amhara region are assimulated, with the exception of some Wollo Oromos. Gojjam Amharas are assimulated Oromos, Wollo Amharas are assimulated Oromos, and Raya are assimulated Oromos. Some in Gondar as well, but not that big of an extent. Simple books state these simple and objective true facts.

 

[GaradShabeel]

What are you saying? Firstly, even if there was Oromos in the federal Amhara state, how does that change the fact that OLA's goal is to primarily make Oromia cleared of Amharas living there? Secondly, all the Oromos who live in the federal Amhara region are assimulated, with the exception of some Wollo Oromos. Gojjam Amharas are assimulated Oromos, Wollo Amharas are assimulated Oromos, and Raya are assimulated Oromos. Some in Gondar as well, but not that big of an extent. Simple books state these simple and objective true facts.

You said that OLA's goals included to clear Amharas in Oromia, hence my question. You don't think about possible retaliations? In particular those living in the Oromo special zone of the Amhara state?

 

[Zarathustra]

You said that OLA's goals included to clear Amharas in Oromia, hence my question. You don't think about possible retaliations?

Fano's goal isn't to wipe out the Oromos from the Amhara region. Their goal is to defend themselves from the Ethiopian government. Fano doesn't only have Amharas fighting for them. There are Agaws who fight for Fano, Wollo Oromos, Argobbas, even though they are a significant minority.

If Oromos in the Amhara state are assimilated, who lives in the Oromo special zone of the Amhara state then? What would they request a special zone?

The Oromos within Wollo were already assimulated before ethnic federalism. The Oromo had estabilished the Yejju dynasty within modern day Wollo and ruled over all Ethiopian provinces during the period called "Zemene Mesafint". After the Yejju dynasty collapsed due to the Abyssinian unification, Oromos within Gojjam and Wollo were converted into Christians and "Amharanized". There were some spots within Wollo where Oromos resisted Amharanization therefore OLF demanded for some autonomy within Wollo for Oromos so creating the Oromia zone within the Amhara region. In the Oromia zone in the Amhara region, it is the largest Muslim population in the Amhara region.

 

[NOT-ACTIVE]

I can't see much changing. Every ruling party will try to cling on to power at all cost in Ethiopia and they'll try to influence, if not directly meddle unlawfully, in the regional states. The former president was part ofSomali Democratic Party, but it was created by the then-gov't TPLF/EPRDF who ruled with iron fist together with their allied parties all over Ethiopia.

As long as Abiy remains, I can only imagine PP further cementing their rule in the Somali region. But if the opposition parties decides to participate in the next election, which is likely, then PP grip on power in DDS could be weakened, but I think they eventually keep their reign in DDS in some way.

It's highly unlikely to see all/most clans unite behind a common banner. A number of past/present factors preventing this from happening. If it happens, it's most likely going to be clans who already have good ties with each other.

Thanks bro for answering all my questions. I appreciate your detailed responses. Inshallah the situation will improve for our people in K5

 

[Aseer]

I can't see much changing. Every ruling party will try to cling on to power at all cost in Ethiopia and they'll try to influence, if not directly meddle unlawfully, in the regional states. The former president was part ofSomali Democratic Party, but it was created by the then-gov't TPLF/EPRDF who ruled with iron fist together with their allied parties all over Ethiopia.

As long as Abiy remains, I can only imagine PP further cementing their rule in the Somali region. But if the opposition parties decides to participate in the next election, which is likely, then PP grip on power in DDS could be weakened, but I think they eventually keep their reign in DDS in some way.

It's highly unlikely to see all/most clans unite behind a common banner. A number of past/present factors preventing this from happening. If it happens, it's most likely going to be clans who already have good ties with each other.

Its possible for them to hold reconciliation talks and settle their differences and issues but that would take long right?

 

[Daadhi Tarree]

Oromos make up 40 percent of the ENDF and run the government. They have no asabiya or sense of nationhood whatsoever. Northern Oromos think they are amharas, Eastern oromos think they’re Somali, etc.

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[Daadhi Tarree]

Not sure about how sectarian they are, but from my observation, they identify more with regions. Broadly speaking, they are on good terms with each other; Muslims, Orthodox, Protestants and Waaqist.

Most Oromo regions have a majority of some sect, which further strengthen their political views based on regionalism. However, over the past decade(s), there've been a rise in ethnic nationalism amongst them and a significant of them support Orommumaa. Despite this, Abiy has also managed to get many Oromos to support Ethiopia in recent time.



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