FANO takes Debre Birhan (150 km from Addis)

[Burqad]

Intensified clashes in Amhara today led to Fano gaining effective control of Debre Birhan (132km from Addis) and capturing Delanta. Ongoing heavy fighting Ataye, Mersa, and Kobo towns. North Shewa Zonal Prosperity Party chief injured.

 

[Burqad]

Amharas take whole states while OLF hasn’t taken even a single tulo

 

[NidarNidar]

Amharas take whole states while OLF hasn’t taken even a single tulo

They have the numbers and training, Oromo are farmers.

 

[Burqad]

They have the numbers and training, Oromo are farmers.

Oromos make up 40 percent of the ENDF and run the government. They have no asabiya or sense of nationhood whatsoever. Northern Oromos think they are amharas, Eastern oromos think they’re Somali, etc.

 

[reer]

Oromos make up 40 percent of the ENDF and run the government. They have no asabiya or sense of nationhood whatsoever. Northern Oromos think they are amharas, Eastern oromos think they’re Somali, etc.

they have the opportunity to dismantle ethiopia but they believe in ethiopia.

 

[NOT-ACTIVE]

Oromos make up 40 percent of the ENDF and run the government. They have no asabiya or sense of nationhood whatsoever. Northern Oromos think they are amharas, Eastern oromos think they’re Somali, etc.

I thought Oromos were unified regardless of religion

 

[Zarathustra]

If you legitimately believe in an Ethiopian Fano Twitter account that makes up complete bullshit like this, reevaluate your life.

 

[GaradShabeel]

I thought Oromos were unified regardless of religion

They are far more united than us, but less than say Amharas and Tigrayans.

Just look at the rebel groups/entities. Most Amharas support FANO, most Tigrayans supported TPLF, and now you got an Oromo led government and other institutions such as the military parallel with active Oromo rebel.

They appear to be politically diverse. Some support centralization of power, which benefits them the most as the largest ethnic group in the country. While others prefers strengthening of ethnic federalism (‘right of self-determination’) and more autonomous power to the regions/states.

 

[NOT-ACTIVE]

They are far more united than us, but less than say Amharas and Tigrayans.

Just look at the rebel groups/entities. Most Amharas support FANO, most Tigrayans supported TPLF, and now you got an Oromo led government and other institutions such as the military parallel with active Oromo rebel.

They appear to be politically diverse. Some support centralization of power, which benefits them the most as the largest ethnic group in the country. While others prefers strengthening of ethnic federalism (‘right of self-determination’) and more autonomous power to the regions/states.

That’s interesting. So Oromo divisions are not sectarian but are more political

Are there any opposition movements in K5? And what would you say is the main thing that’s stopping the Somalis there from being more unified?

 

[Gaandheri]

Afwerki is arming them

 

[Arkan]

Oromos make up 40 percent of the ENDF and run the government. They have no asabiya or sense of nationhood whatsoever. Northern Oromos think they are amharas, Eastern oromos think they’re Somali, etc.

Nonsense

 

[GaradShabeel]

That’s interesting. So Oromo divisions are not sectarian but are more political

Not sure about how sectarian they are, but from my observation, they identify more with regions. Broadly speaking, they are on good terms with each other; Muslims, Orthodox, Protestants and Waaqist.

Most Oromo regions have a majority of some sect, which further strengthen their political views based on regionalism. However, over the past decade(s), there've been a rise in ethnic nationalism amongst them and a significant of them support Orommumaa. Despite this, Abiy has also managed to get many Oromos to support Ethiopia in recent time.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Are there any opposition movements in K5? And what would you say is the main thing that’s stopping the Somalis there from being more unified?

K5 is basically like Somalia, but without the civil war. Every clan/sub-clan have their political interest which doesn't always align with each other. Over the years, there've been some conflicts between clans, sometimes involving security forces. In addition, the political system of DDS is dysfunctional which affects some clan relations. Since many of the clans in K5 also live in Somalia, some of the issues there also spill over.

There are no major opposition movement. The biggest political issue for Somalis in DDS is that the regional government isn't independent. And practically never been for the better part since its establishment.

In any case, they're a handful of opposition parties. Elections are oftentimes marred with irregularities with the aim of supporting the current ruling party. In the last election, all major opposition parties boycotted in DDS. This applies to the federal parliament as well. As a result, all Somali MPs belong to the prosperity party. Due to the political status-quo, there're only few parties who bothers to participate a rigged system.

 

[NOT-ACTIVE]

Over the years, there've been some conflict between clans, sometimes involving security forces.

Yea unfortunately I’ve read about some of the power struggles between the clans and how it led some clans to join the Oromo region in stead of staying in K5

In any case, they're a handful of opposition parties.

Are the parties clan based or are they ideological?

 

[JustSomeGuy]

Amharas take whole states while OLF hasn’t taken even a single tulo

Now you see why Oromos have historically been at the bottom

 

[GaradShabeel]

Yea unfortunately I’ve read about some of the power struggles between the clans and how it led some clans to join the Oromo region in stead of staying in K5

Are the parties clan based or are they ideological?

I don't usually follow policies of the parties. Some are stand-alone parties and others were created through alliances of smaller political associations/parties. Most of them are local parties, but Somali branch of federal parties exist as well.

 

[NOT-ACTIVE]

I don't usually follow policies of the parties, but most of them have some type of ideological agendas. They are mostly local parties, but Somali branch of federal parties exist as well. Candidates for political positions are usually elected along clan lines.

With the current situation that Ethiopia is in, do you see any opportunity for the different clans to put their differences aside and unite?

Also thanks for answering all my questions btw. I’ve read and bookmarked a lot of your previous comments talking about K5. I learned about what’s going on in Tuli guled just from reading your comments

 

[Zarathustra]

Now you see why Oromos have historically been at the bottom

Give examples?

 

[Zarathustra]

Amharas take whole states while OLF hasn’t taken even a single tulo

For a reason. Clearly you do not know OLF's goal. It is first to clear out the Amharas in the Oromia region, which they are currently doing, not fighting the government immediately and loosing like the Tigrayans or Amharans.

 

[GaradShabeel]

With the current situation that Ethiopia is in, do you see any opportunity for the different clans to put their differences aside and unite?

Also thanks for answering all my questions btw. I’ve read and bookmarked a lot of your previous comments talking about K5. I learned about what’s going on in Tuli guled just from reading your comments

I can't see much changing. Every ruling party will try to cling on to power at all cost in Ethiopia and they'll try to influence, if not directly meddle unlawfully, in the regional states. The former president was part ofSomali Democratic Party, but it was created by the then-gov't TPLF/EPRDF who ruled with iron fist together with their allied parties all over Ethiopia.

As long as Abiy remains, I can only imagine PP further cementing their rule in the Somali region. But if the opposition parties decides to participate in the next election, which is likely, then PP grip on power in DDS could be weakened, but I think they eventually keep their reign in DDS in some way.

It's highly unlikely to see all/most clans unite behind a common banner. A number of past/present factors preventing this from happening. If it happens, it's most likely going to be clans who already have good ties with each other.