"Experts" are now Defending...........

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رَّبِّ زِدْنِي عِلْمًا
Don’t like what Muhammad (S.A.W) was from a different time and Aishas age Is not known to be 100% accurate
«So here is the issue that needs to be clarified:Many people use the abbreviation “SAW,” “SAWS,” or “PBUH” to fulfill this obligation in their writing. Is this something that fulfills the obligation of sending the salaah and salaam on the Messenger? Let us look now to some of the statements of the scholars regarding this practice. The Permanent Committee of Scholars in Saudi Arabia headed by ‘Abdul-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abdillaah ibn Baaz issued the following verdict when asked about the validity of abbreviating the salaah on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam): “The Sunnah is to write the entire phrase “sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam,” since it is a kind of supplication, and supplication is worship, (in one’s writing) just as it is in one’s speech. So to abbreviate it using the letter SAAD or the word SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM is not a supplication nor is it worship, whether it occurs in speech or writing. For this reason, this abbreviation was not used by the the first three generations, those that the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) testified to their goodness.” [8] “SAAD” and “SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM” are often used in some Arabic books. The English equivalents of these abbreviations would be: SAW, SAWS, SAAWS, PBUH, and the likes. Al-Fayrooz-Abaadee said, “It is not appropriate to use symbols or abbreviations to refer to salaah and salaam, as some of the lazy ones do, as well as some ignorant people and even some students of knowledge – they write ‘SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM’ instead of writing ‘sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam.'” [9] Ahmad Shaakir said, “It is the absurd tradition of some of the later generations that they abbreviate the writing of ‘sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam.'” [10] Wasee Allaah ‘Abbaas said, “It is not permissible to abbreviate the salaams in general in one’s writing, just as it is not permissible to abbreviate the salaah and salaam on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam). It is also not permissible to abbreviate either of these in one’s speech.” [11] And Allaah knows best. May the most perfect and complete salaah and salaam be upon our beloved Messenger, and upon his noble family and companions.
FOOTNOTES

[1] written by Moosaa Richardson
 
«So here is the issue that needs to be clarified:Many people use the abbreviation “SAW,” “SAWS,” or “PBUH” to fulfill this obligation in their writing. Is this something that fulfills the obligation of sending the salaah and salaam on the Messenger? Let us look now to some of the statements of the scholars regarding this practice. The Permanent Committee of Scholars in Saudi Arabia headed by ‘Abdul-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abdillaah ibn Baaz issued the following verdict when asked about the validity of abbreviating the salaah on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam): “The Sunnah is to write the entire phrase “sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam,” since it is a kind of supplication, and supplication is worship, (in one’s writing) just as it is in one’s speech. So to abbreviate it using the letter SAAD or the word SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM is not a supplication nor is it worship, whether it occurs in speech or writing. For this reason, this abbreviation was not used by the the first three generations, those that the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) testified to their goodness.” [8] “SAAD” and “SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM” are often used in some Arabic books. The English equivalents of these abbreviations would be: SAW, SAWS, SAAWS, PBUH, and the likes. Al-Fayrooz-Abaadee said, “It is not appropriate to use symbols or abbreviations to refer to salaah and salaam, as some of the lazy ones do, as well as some ignorant people and even some students of knowledge – they write ‘SAAD-LAAM-‘AYN-MEEM’ instead of writing ‘sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam.'” [9] Ahmad Shaakir said, “It is the absurd tradition of some of the later generations that they abbreviate the writing of ‘sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam.'” [10] Wasee Allaah ‘Abbaas said, “It is not permissible to abbreviate the salaams in general in one’s writing, just as it is not permissible to abbreviate the salaah and salaam on the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam). It is also not permissible to abbreviate either of these in one’s speech.” [11] And Allaah knows best. May the most perfect and complete salaah and salaam be upon our beloved Messenger, and upon his noble family and companions.
FOOTNOTES

[1] written by Moosaa Richardson
I am writing in English not Arabic u idiot
 

Omar del Sur

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@Omar del Sur are you against a 60 year old man marrying a 15 year old in Somalia?

A 15 year old is not a child. If you're past puberty, you're an adult.

As for a 15 year old marrying a 60 year old, I don't really care. The 15 year old has the right to say "yes" or "no". Whichever they choose is their decision. What do I care? That's like what's my opinion on what condiment they put on their food. Personally, I favor ketchup but they can go with mayonnaise, mustard or whatever.... it's their food. They can make their own decision.

Obviously, I don't believe in people being free to do things like steal or commit adultery.... but I don't think there's any sharia objection to a 15 year old voluntarily choosing to marry a 60 year old (being forced is a different situation and is against Islam). I wouldn't want to marry an obese woman but maybe there's someone who's into that. Maybe they're into 60 year olds. Maybe the 60 year old is an influential person, maybe they're rich, maybe they love the 60 year old.

If you drink alcohol or light a cigarette in front of me, I might say something. If you put mayonnaise or mustard on your food, I might think you're crazy and think ketchup is a way superior condiment but I don't really care. It's up to you.
 
Yes but not in 2019

tsktsk tsk...

i really feel sorry for you,
you are the typical modern muslim , surrounding by the corrosive anti-religion focused western/global culture and you find it difficult to deal with the questions arising.

Its not your fault its your education, the muslim world is intellectually stunted, i.e handicapped.
9/10 Muslim "scholars" you see and meet are so primitive minded compared to your average educated gaal..

no wonder you have so many munafiqs and people leaving islam, they are smart enough to realise something is wrong , but dumb enough to fall for the soulless secularism .

The aisha issue was resolved a 1000 years ago, nobody had any issues with it,
Muslims have issues with it today because they are ignorant, and infected with AIDS.
(Acquired Intellectual deficiency Syndrome) i.e Salafism/Wahabism always taking the literal meaning.

The collections of hadiths give 9, 12, 14 and over 21 as well.
Hadith is human written and thus full of human errors and do not have the protection of allah.
Allah said the quran is untouchable fully protected and dares anyone to try.

Doesnt mean you throw hadiths away, it just means you cannot use them alone like the Salafis/wahabist and their ilk do, you have to use the quran along with every hadith.
The quran is a filter, you run it through the quran and if does not compute you discard it as junk..


Any muslim born 500-1400 ago would understand this, but modern muslims have been stunted,
and unable to deal with the challenge of secularism and the worship of science.
 
tsktsk tsk...

i really feel sorry for you,
you are the typical modern muslim , surrounding by the corrosive anti-religion focused western/global culture and you find it difficult to deal with the questions arising.

Its not your fault its your education, the muslim world is intellectually stunted, i.e handicapped.
9/10 Muslim "scholars" you see and meet are so primitive minded compared to your average educated gaal..

no wonder you have so many munafiqs and people leaving islam, they are smart enough to realise something is wrong , but dumb enough to fall for the soulless secularism .

The aisha issue was resolved a 1000 years ago, nobody had any issues with it,
Muslims have issues with it today because they are ignorant, and infected with AIDS.
(Acquired Intellectual deficiency Syndrome) i.e Salafism/Wahabism always taking the literal meaning.

The collections of hadiths give 9, 12, 14 and over 21 as well.
Hadith is human written and thus full of human errors and do not have the protection of allah.
Allah said the quran is untouchable fully protected and dares anyone to try.

Doesnt mean you throw hadiths away, it just means you cannot use them alone like the Salafis/wahabist and their ilk do, you have to use the quran along with every hadith.
The quran is a filter, you run it through the quran and if does not compute you discard it as junk..


Any muslim born 500-1400 ago would understand this, but modern muslims have been stunted,
and unable to deal with the challenge of secularism and the worship of science.
tsktsk tsk...

i really feel sorry for you,
you are the typical modern muslim , surrounding by the corrosive anti-religion focused western/global culture and you find it difficult to deal with the questions arising.

Its not your fault its your education, the muslim world is intellectually stunted, i.e handicapped.
9/10 Muslim "scholars" you see and meet are so primitive minded compared to your average educated gaal..

no wonder you have so many munafiqs and people leaving islam, they are smart enough to realise something is wrong , but dumb enough to fall for the soulless secularism .

The aisha issue was resolved a 1000 years ago, nobody had any issues with it,
Muslims have issues with it today because they are ignorant, and infected with AIDS.
(Acquired Intellectual deficiency Syndrome) i.e Salafism/Wahabism always taking the literal meaning.

The collections of hadiths give 9, 12, 14 and over 21 as well.
Hadith is human written and thus full of human errors and do not have the protection of allah.
Allah said the quran is untouchable fully protected and dares anyone to try.

Doesnt mean you throw hadiths away, it just means you cannot use them alone like the Salafis/wahabist and their ilk do, you have to use the quran along with every hadith.
The quran is a filter, you run it through the quran and if does not compute you discard it as junk..


Any muslim born 500-1400 ago would understand this, but modern muslims have been stunted,
and unable to deal with the challenge of secularism and the worship of science.
what the hell are u talking about
 
I know it was accepted 1000 years ago but why did u write a whole paragraph talking about why atheists and gaal are so clever :ftw9nwa:

compared to your average atheist , the average somali shiekh is an intellectally stunted midget,
causing an increase in gaalnimo in the somali community ..

thats what i meant..

they are not clever, our people are just plan ignorant and stupid.
 
I will turn away from My signs those who act unjustly with arrogance in the land. And even if they were to see every sign, they still would not believe in them. If they see the Right Path, they will not take it. But if they see a crooked path, they will follow it. This is because they denied Our signs and were heedless of them.

-Sura Al-A'raf, Ayah 146
 

Idow

The revolution shall come comrades.
I know Denmark decriminalized bestiality in the 70s ,.

What's the legal status today and are there any countries today that allow it.

I wonder who will legalize pedophilia first...
The west is over these retarded liberals with there “ there are 108383839373937383748303937492736482837363392728282 genders
 

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