EX Hirshabelle President Exposes Anti Federalist Farmajo

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
I urge puntites. The PSF n Deni conflict must be resolved peacefully. Listen to Hirshabelle President he said the 'federal govt' is seeking to destabilize PL so it can tell international donors that regional government are not responsible to manage security and it should be the SFG job to provide security for the nation.

Pls be-ware this is a govt that cannot even walk down the streets of mogadishu, if they end up winning and achieve their objective of disempowering PL security, we will become like Mogadishu. So let the kids who joined Diyano, beware what they are supporting could lead to their whole agency being de-funded and Danab and Haramcad will be sent into Puntland.
 

DR OSMAN

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@FBIsomalia Diyano family have gone into an unholy alliance with Farmajo, he wants to cause conflict in PL and then Farmajo tells Americans that PL cannot manage their own security and our security will be managed by Nabad n Noolal similar to GM/HS and Mogadishu.

We must come together as puntites and save our security institutions from being merged with the dysfunctional shabab symapthising SFG. Look what happened to ahlul sunnah when they gave up the security of their area, shabab is encroaching on them. This is what will happen if we cede our security to the SFG who the shabab do not fear and they carry out attacks daily on them becuz they are dysnfunctional hooligans who have no experience in military.
 
Another looser that thinks if he sucks up the puntland he will get something.

Anyway @DR OSMAN first learn what federalism means and the devolution of power between the federal government and the local state governments. Under federalism only the federal government is head of the armed forces. Technically the PSF should be under the command of President Farmaajo.

You are anti federalist what you are proposing is for puntland to be like somaliland. You are against everything that the federal government is suppose to be in charge of under the constitution. There is no difference between somaliland and puntland.

The only difference is you are too weak to stand on your own which is why you haven't publicly announced like somaliland that you left somalia.
 

DR OSMAN

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@cow the federation deal isn't one way as you presume, everything first has to be agreed too by both parties like all federations happen. You think Your Abbe Farmajo decides what federation looks like and that shows your stupidity only.

The second thing, PL will transfer nothing to the SFG, the current duties you have shows how corrupt and unstable you are. PL will only transfer it's duties when we deem it 'reasonable' and safe to do so and when Somalia government follows the rule of law agreed upon in the constitution. We don't believe in 'abbenimo' like u do, we believe in rule of law and agreements and there will be no agreement that we are going into as long as the south is unstable.

So cut the bullshit, you can barely walk down meka al mukurammah, international community is holed up in halane, when we see stability in the SFG and the international community endorses it, then you may have a leg to stand on, but as long as your unstable politically n security wise and there is no rule of law or reliable institutions, there is nothing for PL to discuss with your abbe farmajo.

PL built the SFG waryaa, you are by-product of my vision and direction. U think PL can't stand alone, we built ourselves and built somalia, u think SL has the power to do such thing? sit down u dumb reckless scoundrel
 

DR OSMAN

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@cow your nothing but a reckless scoundrel who doesn't understand governance whatsoever. All government is local not federal. To beat corruption the best way is to ensure power is vested locally so all projects are more accountable to the locals, but your abbe farmajo thinking is what lead to corruption because they are 'far away' from local accountability and that's why your government is stinking with corruption as it's not accountable to anyone yet wants to represent everyone. If u can't help abudwaaq n gedo, u have no right to talk about other places, go back home you marehan, stop hiding under the qaran card u worthless langaab
 

repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
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They were almost successful, imagine if this never happened and Diyaano became president of Puntland. It would have been our downfall, now their name has been disgraced.

Indeed, Waare is correct. Garacad port would have been built if we were led by Villa Somalia. We would never have built Bosaso and Garowe. He is totally right, their beef is why are you living in peace? They don't want to see us live in prosperity.

Somalis are the definition of misery loves company, they want us to join them in their chaos and destruction. We must continue to distance ourselves from them.

Waare is a smart man, he is a visionary. He has to go back to his region to contribute and possibly lead them. All politics is local, he should never waste time on Mogadishu again.
 

DR OSMAN

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@cow U support farmajo like siyad barre, those ppl left behind nothing for gedo or abudwaq and u still cheerlead like a clown. Federalism empowers local governments becuz we want government to be closer to the people, this means it's more accountable and less likely for corruption or abuse of power when the people are outside watching them, if the govt is further away it can all be corrupted easier and leads to instability in the end.

It also means we don't have to worry about each other, we don't care what happens to HS/GM or Hamar and like wise they won't care what happens in PL. It means if 1 collapses, it doesn't effect the other, PL will still function regardless what happens to the south.

It also means better competition between regions and exposure of unproductive governments when we are separated, if we all in one bag under farmajo, we all share wins and losses, but with federations our wins n losses will be separated from each other. That's why we can point to gedo n abudwaq and say 'farmajo' isn't genuine about Somalia becuz he doesn't even care about his own people, why wud he care for our people or anyone else?
 
Anyone supporting Somalia becoming centralised with all powers to the federal government because Farmajo is from their clan would I bet in the future support states being more powerful than the central government if their clan ruled a state but a rival clan led the FGS
 
I urge puntites. The PSF n Deni conflict must be resolved peacefully. Listen to Hirshabelle President he said the 'federal govt' is seeking to destabilize PL so it can tell international donors that regional government are not responsible to manage security and it should be the SFG job to provide security for the nation.

Pls be-ware this is a govt that cannot even walk down the streets of mogadishu, if they end up winning and achieve their objective of disempowering PL security, we will become like Mogadishu. So let the kids who joined Diyano, beware what they are supporting could lead to their whole agency being de-funded and Danab and Haramcad will be sent into Puntland.
He can’t even secure villa Somalia that gets shelled monthly
 

FBIsomalia

True Puntlander
VIP
@FBIsomalia Diyano family have gone into an unholy alliance with Farmajo, he wants to cause conflict in PL and then Farmajo tells Americans that PL cannot manage their own security and our security will be managed by Nabad n Noolal similar to GM/HS and Mogadishu.

We must come together as puntites and save our security institutions from being merged with the dysfunctional shabab symapthising SFG. Look what happened to ahlul sunnah when they gave up the security of their area, shabab is encroaching on them. This is what will happen if we cede our security to the SFG who the shabab do not fear and they carry out attacks daily on them becuz they are dysnfunctional hooligans who have no experience in military.
This accident occur with PMPF and been solved in peace, we have daqaan and ismo. Let them solve this issue.
 

FBIsomalia

True Puntlander
VIP
Another looser that thinks if he sucks up the puntland he will get something.

Anyway @DR OSMAN first learn what federalism means and the devolution of power between the federal government and the local state governments. Under federalism only the federal government is head of the armed forces. Technically the PSF should be under the command of President Farmaajo.

You are anti federalist what you are proposing is for puntland to be like somaliland. You are against everything that the federal government is suppose to be in charge of under the constitution. There is no difference between somaliland and puntland.

The only difference is you are too weak to stand on your own which is why you haven't publicly announced like somaliland that you left somalia.
In reality PL working 90% similarly to SL. Only foreign affairs we stick with Somalia.

Somalis from south Somalia living in PL. If we declare separation. What is called Somalia is over.
 

FBIsomalia

True Puntlander
VIP
Anyone supporting Somalia becoming centralised with all powers to the federal government because Farmajo is from their clan would I bet in the future support states being more powerful than the central government if their clan ruled a state but a rival clan led the FGS
That was RX idea in 50s and PL in 2000s.

Xamar qaago will not take one shillings from me, unless I see contribution from their side to PL.
 

CanoGeel

"Show respect to all people, but grovel to none"
@InaShaqalle With N&N Cult,Everything revolves around The Central figure, the Saviour, The Aabo and they booty clap for him all day. it's waste to engage them in policy and governance matters as that's beyond the scope of the Cult's IQ and daily drill.



surreal the light GIF


i wonder what will they occupy with themselves when Aabo finally succumbs to the inevitable!:damsel:
 
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If only Garowe/Bosaso was Mogadishu and President be MJ. The MJ's would shout out for centralized government at the top of their lungs indeed its other way round and MJ's are for decentralized power federalism. These people never seized to surprise me with their Wariri attitude.
 
@DR OSMAN you write a lot but say very little. If the sort of federalism has not been agreed upon like you said then the status qou up until an agreement is reached would be the law. I.e it will be like pre 1991 as that was the last agreed upon model of governance.
 

CanoGeel

"Show respect to all people, but grovel to none"
If only Garowe/Bosaso was Mogadishu and President be MJ. The MJ's would shout out for centralized government at the top of their lungs indeed its other way round and MJ's are for decentralized power federalism. These people never seized to surprise me with their Wariri attitude.
U are dumb. unbeknownst to me but as this Waare Gentleman stated, Puntland was at odds with the Central Govt regarding Federal states rights and responsibilities both when Yusuf was president or later with Puntlander Prime Ministers.

Have u forgot ur daily booty clappin drill for the Cult's central figure lol?
surreal the light GIF


Must i remind ya that we dont worship a central figure in politics.

the path were not a cult GIF by HULU


By the way I am not MJ but a Puntlander
 
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Waare is right, the adeer spoke facts. This government is anti - federalism.

He gave an example how hirshabelle turned from a federal state into an extension of Xamar where the state is paralysed and gets named from Villa Somalia.

Puntland should stop the hostilities towards each other and to never sell the β€œPuntland” First agenda.

Federalism is here to stay. Anyone else that dreams of the Kacaan era can stay dreaming.
 
@InaShaqalle With N&N Cult,Everything revolves around The Central figure, the Saviour, The Aabo and they booty clap for him all day. it's waste to engage them in policy and governance matters as that's beyond the scope of the Cult's IQ and daily drill.



surreal the light GIF


i wonder what will they occupy with themselves when Aabo finally succumbs to the inevitable!:damsel:



This is the perfect GIF for the N&N Farmaajo cult.

It is astonishing how Kacaanist leaders have such a strong pimp hand and they keep their clan in-line without even lifting a single finger to do anything productive. All you need to do is show them a picture of Siad Barre and Farmaajo and they lose their minds in delirious worship.

They are not Centralists, they are Cultist and their holy Deity is Farmaajo, they have no agenda or political orientation outside of worshipping one man.
 

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