everything somalis did actually originated from arabs?

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idk why but lately so many people on sspot are posting about how things that somalis did or created are arab. multiple threads on how dirac is arab and how our foods are arab. now i saw a post asking if ajuuran was controlled by arabs
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sspoters need to stop with this self hating bs and accept that our ancestors could do things
 
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Somalis and Arabs have conntections through:

trade

religion

and

politics.


It’s normal to see some minor influences just like other cultures.


just like how English have lots of loan words.


for example: ”alcohol” is reference to an Arabic language.

English: alcohol. Arabic word al-kuhul (al kohl)

It’s normal and natural.

Somalis have their own poetry, cultural design, dance and language.

don‘t sweat it, saxib.
 
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pirater

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K-M-O said:
Somalis and Arabs have conntections through:

trade

religion

and

politics.


its normal to see some minor influences just like other cultures.


just like how English have lots of loan words.


for example: ”alcohol” is reference to an Arabic language.

English: alcohol. Arabic word al-kuhul (al kohl)

It’s normal and natural.

somalis have their own poetry, cultural design, dance and language.

don‘t sweat it, saxib.
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thats cool. but someone said that ajuuran was ruled by arabs. multiple said dirac is arab which it is not. the problem is people are associating anything somalis do with arabs as if somali people couldnt rule or create anything
 
Shimbiris

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Kan'an said:
Walashama dynasty, an Arab family started the Ifat & Adal Sultanates. There is a good chance Ahmed Al Gazi himself was an Arab.
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Not a chance in hell. He was not an Arab. Read the Futux al-Xabasha:



He makes it very clear at various points that he is a native of the Horn interior. Not even from the coast but the interior near Harar. He was born in some tuulo near the city and most of his relations are either Somalis or people of unnamed exact ethnic origins but who were likely either Sidamics or Southern Ethiosemites. He speaks at more than one point in the book to Arabs like they are foreigners because they are. He even displayed a common cultural practice, a type of trial by fire, found among Somalis and Afars which some scholars have used to theorize solidifies his Cushitic (instead of Ethiosemitic) origins.

And the Walashma were just claiming Arabian origins the same way all Somalis and Muslim Horners do. The guy they are often said to claim descent from is this dude:


A guy who has in some sources seemingly been referred to as "al-Barbari". Barbari/Berbera being a word medieval Arabs used to refer to Somalis like how Ibn Battuta makes it clear it refers to a dark-skinned people who herd camels and sheep whilst being Shafi'i Muslims and living from Saylac down to Xamar. Who does that sound like to you? Most of their troops were also clearly Somali, even more so than the Imam, so much so that in the Futux you'll read things like "The Sultan and his Somalis". They're often mentioned in tandem together. And their power base was often Saylac. A historically Somali town.
 
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Hamzza

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We are living in a strange world

In this site it's cool to be somali athiest, waaqist, liberal and homosexual, but the moment you claim you descended from arabs you will be in trouble.
Our forefathers were proud of their arabness yaa ikhwaanii.
 
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