This is @DR OSMAN thread. Its long and I go into tangents, but I hope I can change your world view. This world is cold, so adjust to it.
You guys are too emotional invested in Somalia or are protecting your Tribal enclave. No one cares about Somalis. We are alone. Sacrifice is needed. Sacrifice of ports, death of innocent people and selling our land to foreigners. Those are all sacrifices.
Somalia needs Centralized power, we need Farmaajo. We need someone who protects our interest in our own home. Is he perfect. NO, but Is life perfect?
Is he an Ethiopian employee. No one is denying that. In politics we need Allies, we need people that we can do business with, mutual benefit. Him selling our ports and giving Ethiopia a lot of power over us, is the price for Somalias' success. Put your pride to the side, this is how nations are built. BE PATIENT AND WE WILL BE VICTORS.
This world is build on politics. We have so many enemies, that we can't count them with 10 fingers, superpowers and small nations. We have 3 superpowers, that only wants:
1.To cripple us with debt, so that they can own us. (China)
2. To destroy our Religious belief=Our civilization I.E become a puppet country like UAE or SAUDI. (The West)
3.Doesn't want to get involved. There is no benefit. (Russia)
Rwanda became powerful, because both America and China started investing in it. And also that the UN allowed Rwanda to massacre 6 million Congolese for their precious resources. Their mines and treasures.
China became powerful because The West and Russia invested in it, one for cheap labor the latter for an ally against the west. When China tried to become powerful on its own, it failed. THAT failure is called Great Chinese Famine. Up to 45 million Chinese died. So remember this geeljires. To grow, you need assistance. You need allies to become powerful.
We have enemies to our south, to our north, to our west, to our east. We are alone, a failed state. Puntland, Jubbaland, Somaliland are selling themselves to gain profit short terms. A nation needs a government who control controls, someone who envisions a long-term benefit. In the very least Farmajoo has given us an alliance with Ethiopia.
I only know one thing, "results will talk loudest". I am not against Farmajoo nor am I for him. I am waiting for 3 important things. If his administration can accomplish those goals, I support him. Evil or not. I don't want a SECOND SYRIA OR LIBYA. I don't care if he kills my whole tribe. Our nations success is more important than anything else. A strong Somalia, is a weak Ethiopia, Kenya, UAE, Saudi Arabia and a weaker dollar.
For a people to be defined as a nation it needs a surface to stand. Most of you don't have any idea how important this sectors are. How detrimental this tribal states are for our economy. Our currency is weak, because we are divided
1. Primary Sector <--- we have the resources, we just need investments from other countries so we can industrialize. That's why we need a bank, a central government
2. Secondary Sector <---- If we industrialize the primary sector this will come naturally.
3. Tertiary Sector <----- limited in its quantity, because Primary sector isn't being maximized for the nations interest. Hotels everywhere, but high unemployment
4. Quaternary Sector <---- If we have low corruption, we can become Singapore in 15 years, there are many Somalis with degree. Many who can contribute to this sector. We can be innovators. There are many engineers who will leave the west for a stable Somalia. The payment maybe low, but its HOME.
We don't control anything in Somalia, nor do we produce anything we own. A good example is Puntland selling its shores to the Asians. This is a big mistake. We are selling our primary sectors to foreigners. You have to remember, without our primary sector, we can never create other sectors. Somalia will always have high unemployment rate. For us to industrialize our primary sector, we are going to need investors. We need a one party system, we need a government who can imagine 30 years into the future. Puntland is not an answer nor are other tribal states. UAE are not giving free money to Puntland because of kindness. It doesn't want Puntland to grow it's Primary Sector. That is why UAE own Bosaso port and is involved in everything that happens in Puntland. We don't need western democracy, we need someone who cares about the people.
You can laugh at me, but for a nation to start building, we are going to need few elites to control Somalia interest and subsequently Greater Somalia. This 4.5 system is not working. We are going to need something that is Culturally accepted. Tribal democracy, where 450 tribal leaders(Isaaq, MJ, MX and RW will have most seats) are given the chance to vote for a dictator.
If anyone is against this form of democracy, ask yourself. How did Rashidun Caliphs came to power. Every tribe needs to give their allegiance to someone. Someone who can be trusted with our nations destiny. If any tribal leader rebels, they are attacked by ever single tribal leader. If everybody rebels like the last time. We are a lost cause.
@Manafesto @Crow @Shmurda @JohnQ
You guys are too emotional invested in Somalia or are protecting your Tribal enclave. No one cares about Somalis. We are alone. Sacrifice is needed. Sacrifice of ports, death of innocent people and selling our land to foreigners. Those are all sacrifices.
Somalia needs Centralized power, we need Farmaajo. We need someone who protects our interest in our own home. Is he perfect. NO, but Is life perfect?
Is he an Ethiopian employee. No one is denying that. In politics we need Allies, we need people that we can do business with, mutual benefit. Him selling our ports and giving Ethiopia a lot of power over us, is the price for Somalias' success. Put your pride to the side, this is how nations are built. BE PATIENT AND WE WILL BE VICTORS.
This world is build on politics. We have so many enemies, that we can't count them with 10 fingers, superpowers and small nations. We have 3 superpowers, that only wants:
1.To cripple us with debt, so that they can own us. (China)
2. To destroy our Religious belief=Our civilization I.E become a puppet country like UAE or SAUDI. (The West)
3.Doesn't want to get involved. There is no benefit. (Russia)
Rwanda became powerful, because both America and China started investing in it. And also that the UN allowed Rwanda to massacre 6 million Congolese for their precious resources. Their mines and treasures.
China became powerful because The West and Russia invested in it, one for cheap labor the latter for an ally against the west. When China tried to become powerful on its own, it failed. THAT failure is called Great Chinese Famine. Up to 45 million Chinese died. So remember this geeljires. To grow, you need assistance. You need allies to become powerful.
We have enemies to our south, to our north, to our west, to our east. We are alone, a failed state. Puntland, Jubbaland, Somaliland are selling themselves to gain profit short terms. A nation needs a government who control controls, someone who envisions a long-term benefit. In the very least Farmajoo has given us an alliance with Ethiopia.
I only know one thing, "results will talk loudest". I am not against Farmajoo nor am I for him. I am waiting for 3 important things. If his administration can accomplish those goals, I support him. Evil or not. I don't want a SECOND SYRIA OR LIBYA. I don't care if he kills my whole tribe. Our nations success is more important than anything else. A strong Somalia, is a weak Ethiopia, Kenya, UAE, Saudi Arabia and a weaker dollar.
For a people to be defined as a nation it needs a surface to stand. Most of you don't have any idea how important this sectors are. How detrimental this tribal states are for our economy. Our currency is weak, because we are divided
1. Primary Sector <--- we have the resources, we just need investments from other countries so we can industrialize. That's why we need a bank, a central government
2. Secondary Sector <---- If we industrialize the primary sector this will come naturally.
3. Tertiary Sector <----- limited in its quantity, because Primary sector isn't being maximized for the nations interest. Hotels everywhere, but high unemployment
4. Quaternary Sector <---- If we have low corruption, we can become Singapore in 15 years, there are many Somalis with degree. Many who can contribute to this sector. We can be innovators. There are many engineers who will leave the west for a stable Somalia. The payment maybe low, but its HOME.
We don't control anything in Somalia, nor do we produce anything we own. A good example is Puntland selling its shores to the Asians. This is a big mistake. We are selling our primary sectors to foreigners. You have to remember, without our primary sector, we can never create other sectors. Somalia will always have high unemployment rate. For us to industrialize our primary sector, we are going to need investors. We need a one party system, we need a government who can imagine 30 years into the future. Puntland is not an answer nor are other tribal states. UAE are not giving free money to Puntland because of kindness. It doesn't want Puntland to grow it's Primary Sector. That is why UAE own Bosaso port and is involved in everything that happens in Puntland. We don't need western democracy, we need someone who cares about the people.
You can laugh at me, but for a nation to start building, we are going to need few elites to control Somalia interest and subsequently Greater Somalia. This 4.5 system is not working. We are going to need something that is Culturally accepted. Tribal democracy, where 450 tribal leaders(Isaaq, MJ, MX and RW will have most seats) are given the chance to vote for a dictator.
If anyone is against this form of democracy, ask yourself. How did Rashidun Caliphs came to power. Every tribe needs to give their allegiance to someone. Someone who can be trusted with our nations destiny. If any tribal leader rebels, they are attacked by ever single tribal leader. If everybody rebels like the last time. We are a lost cause.
@Manafesto @Crow @Shmurda @JohnQ
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