Ethiopia's PM Abiy Ahmed visits Asmara, Eritrea

[Abba Sadacha]

From you replies, guys, I am sensing some shit is about to explode in Ethiopia.

I wonder what is the perception of Amharas among Tigrayans. Do Tigrayans view Amharas as the traitors of the glorious Habashi Ethiopia of old days?

ironically enough, tigrayans are wanting to ally with oromos, seeing as how we may end up having the same enemies-abiy, his amhara extremist allies, and eritrea in the fold now. lol

 

[xabashi]

If we wanted to rejoin we would've held a referendum. But my intention was that it would be covert, why would Somaliland do it openly? Even better to just have the Egyptians do it. The military base is a precaution, not a provocation. Things are about to get chaotic. But anyhow your military is split along ethnic lines, so I don't think you can even call it an Ethiopian military. Somalia should be on board but their incompetence is on show again

My advise to our long term SL friends is this: never ever threaten Ethiopia and fall into the trap the south fell. Forget the military base, that will never materialize. The moment SL decides to allow a military base for Egypt is the end of the SL project. Mark my word. You guys should learn from the south. We are in the south because of the constant and endless threats. If you guys think Ethiopia will wait until Egyptian army is stationed in SL then you are stupid af. The moment you decide, you already declared war on Ethiopia and threatened its existence and the harsh retaliation comes the next day. Don't make us your enemies. We are your long term friends who are planning to do business with you but if you think threatening Ethiopia and following the path of the south will help you, then be my guest. I see this as nothing but a stupid suicidal mission. A calculation that stupidly assumes that Ethiopia will wait until Egypt set up a base in SL.

 

[FarxanFarax223]

My advise to our long term SL friends is this: never ever threaten Ethiopia and fall into the trap the south fell. Forget the military base, that will never materialize. The moment SL decides to allow a military base for Egypt is the end of the SL project. Mark my word. You guys should learn from the south. We are in the south because of the constant and endless threats. If you guys think Ethiopia will wait until Egyptian army is stationed in SL then you are stupid af. The moment you decide, you already declared war on Ethiopia and threatened its existence and the harsh retaliation comes the next day. Don't make us your enemies. We are your long term friends who are planning to do business with you but if you think threatening Ethiopia and following the path of the south will help you, then be my guest. I see this as nothing but a stupid suicidal mission. A calculation that stupidly assumes that Ethiopia will wait until Egypt set up a base in SL.

Well Ethiopia itself is already currently a threat to Somaliland's national security. But are you Somali? This decision will garner support in the Arab world for SL recognition. And the Egyptians will act as a counterbalance to the regional power that is Ethiopia, they have vowed to defend the country if necessary and also have a strong incentive in doing so. That's why when this was announced they remain silent, Ethiopia are no match for Egypt.

 

[AbdiGeedi]

Yo you think Erdogan's getting in this?

Erdogan is the IDGAF guy when it comes to the West. We all saw how Turkey humiliated and isolated France in the East Med and Libya. He has deep hatred towards El Sisi for deposing and murdering Mursi. Erdogan has showed multiple times that he doesn't give a f*ck about what the Arabs think about his actions. He mows and kills them like grass. He only cares for Pan-Islamism and the Muslim Brotherhood. Turkey openly supports the GERD dam against the Arabs, the issue that Arabs take close to their hearts.

I have no doubt that if opportunity presents itself Erdogan will jump in in some form or shape to revenge Mursi's death.

 

[AbdiGeedi]

ironically enough, tigrayans are wanting to ally with oromos, seeing as how we may end up having the same enemies-abiy, his amhara extremist allies, and eritrea in the fold now. lol

Was there ever Habashi unity?

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Now that he defeated and jailed the likes of Jawar, the next target is clear: TPLF This seems the last warning for TPLF that if it crosses the red line, it will be facing both Ethiopian and Eritrean armies the same time. That is at least what I understand it as a non-expert and I am pretty sure TPLF will also see it this way.
And yes, she is his wife, an Amhara woman from Gondar.

Please stick to your lane you are a shirtam refugee you will never become Ethiopian.
This is not Awdal.

Abye is history with his member ideology which is filthy and Amhata supremacist.

The fall of Abye is soon.That murtad is done.

 

[FarxanFarax223]

Erdogan is the IDGAF guy when it comes to the West. We all saw how Turkey humiliated and isolated France in the East Med and Libya. He has deep hatred towards El Sisi for deposing and murdering Mursi. Erdogan has showed multiple times that he doesn't give a f*ck about what the Arabs think about his actions. He mows and kills them like grass. He only cares for Pan-Islamism and the Muslim Brotherhood. Turkey openly supports the GERD dam against the Arabs, the issue that Arabs take close to their hearts.

I have no doubt that if opportunity presents itself Erdogan will jump in in some form or shape to revenge Mursi's death.

Honestly I think GERD turned so many against Ethiopia, Sudan was at one point a little uncertain but is now completely in line with Sisi. So it's looking like Egypt, Sudan, Gulf Arabs, USA, Oromo and Ogaden vs. Turkey, Ethiopia, and Russia. Possibly even Iran. Makes me wonder how Erdogan is comfortable getting in so much shit. Apparently he's losing support

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

OPDO and the oromo people are two different things. It's Africa, whoever cuts the checks of the local security forces is who they're going to be loyal to, for the most part.
That was the case under TPLF for over 2 decades though, so that's not proving your point, oromia police and the army/federal were killing and jailing oromos back then too.
The support he has in oromia is small compared to the rising opposition, which he himself is fueling when he targeted oromo opposition, and even journalists like betty.
oh yeah? did you say the same about the amhara gangs targeting oromos in addis ababa? or the fact they too targeted oromo businesses? oh i forgot, only oromos can have ''bad apples,'' you see how hypocritical many of you habeshas are?!

Dont waste your time with this Gadabursi refugee he needs to concentrate on being loyal citizens in Hargeisa.

 

[xabashi]

Well Ethiopia itself is already currently a threat to Somaliland's national security. But are you Somali? This decision will garner support in the Arab world for SL recognition. And the Egyptians will act as a counterbalance to the regional power that is Ethiopia, they have vowed to defend the country if necessary and also have a strong incentive in doing so. That's why when this was announced they remain silent, Ethiopia are no match for Egypt.

It seems the rational generation of SL is gone and we have now to deal with delusional idiots who can't see things objectively but rather with emotional and wishful thinking eyes. Your calculations are mostly not based on hard facts but half cooked assumptions. First Ethiopia is not threatening SL, especially not military. That is not the hard fact. Second, no one will save you from Ethiopian retaliation if you threaten Ethiopia by allowing military base. Forget Egypt, it will never target Ethiopia directly knowing very well, Ethiopia will never negotiate with Egypt on the nile for generations to come. What Egypt wants is to distablize Ethiopia using proxy moron n@ggers and stop Ethiopia's development and its dam. Believe me you will be alone stand fighting against the Ethiopian army. The new generation SL seem delusional as the south was. The arabs who are investing in Ethiopia will never abandon Ethiopia and side with you. How delusional are you guys?

If the SL government thinks like this, I see the end of the SL project approaching very fast and Somalia becoming a united country very soon. The objective and rational generation of SL seem gone and instead we have full of delusional fools who thinks Arabs love us and will save us from Ethiopia. Arabs including Egypt will not engage directly with Ethiopia, get that in your head.

 

[FarxanFarax223]

It seems the rational generation of SL is gone and we have now to deal with delusional idiots who can't see things objectively but rather with emotional and wishful thinking eyes. Your calculations are mostly not based on hard facts but half cooked assumptions. First Ethiopia is not threatening SL, especially not military. That is not the hard fact. Second, no one will save you from Ethiopian retaliation if you threaten Ethiopia by allowing military base. Forget Egypt, it will never target Ethiopia directly knowing very well, Ethiopia will never negotiate with Egypt on the nile for generations to come. What Egypt wants is to distablize Ethiopia using proxy moron n@ggers and stop Ethiopia's development and its dam. Believe me you will be alone stand fighting against the Ethiopian army. The new generation SL seem delusional as the south was. The arabs who are investing in Ethiopia will never abandon Ethiopia and side with you. How delusional are you guys?

If the SL government thinks like this, I see the end of the SL project approaching very fast and Somalia becoming a united country very soon. The objective and rational generation of SL seem gone and instead we have full of delusional fools.

China is heavily invested, not Arabs. You're so wrong there, the Arabs are united in their support for Sisi.

 

[AbdiGeedi]

And the Egyptians will act as a counterbalance to the regional power that is Ethiopia

I think it is legit observation on your part vis-a-vis the Horn of Africa. Ever since the US and Israel brought Sudan into their fold by removing Omar al-Bashir, Egypt has slowly started encroaching in the Horn of Africa. I think this Egyptian base negotiations were ok'ed by the US and planned to serve the Israeli interests to create one continuous bridge connecting to the UAE as an anti Iran long arm. Ethiopia really needs to beef up its ties with Turkey as Erdogan wants to strengthen its presence in the Gulf. There is already a sizeable Turkish base in Qatar and Erdogan wants to come to Yemen to teach a lesson to the UAE and Saudi Arabia for what they did to that country.

 

[xabashi]

China is heavily invested, not Arabs. You're so wrong there, the Arabs are united in their support for Sisi.

Saudi, UAE, Qatar and Turkey are one of the top investors in Ethiopia. The maximum arabs do even for egypt is to agree on useless Arab league resolution knowing very well that is useless. The arab involvement fighting Ethiopia ends there. They are not even willing to sanction Ethiopia let alone to fight for SL.

 

[FarxanFarax223]

Saudi, UAE, Qatar and Turkey are one of the top investors in Ethiopia. The maximum arabs do even for egypt is to agree on useless Arab league resolution knowing very well that is useless. The arab involvement fighting Ethiopia ends there. They are not even willing to sanction Ethiopia let alone to fight for SL.

Nobody asked for them to do that though, that will only put added pressure on Ethiopia.

 

[xabashi]

Nobody asked for them to do that though, that will only put added pressure on Ethiopia.

My advise for our SL still friends is this: don't threaten Ethiopia. Instead cooperate and try to change the Ethiopian policy if you don't like the current one. SL has still many Ethiopian friends inside Ethiopia. But threatening Ethiopia especially on the issue of Egypt and dam where almost all Ethiopians are united (including TPLF, Jawar etc) is the most stupid thing to do.

 

[FarxanFarax223]

My advise for our SL still friends is this: don't threaten Ethiopia. Instead cooperate and try to change the Ethiopian policy if you don't like the current one. SL has still many Ethiopian friends inside Ethiopia. But threatening Ethiopia especially on the issue of Egypt and dam where almost all Ethiopians are united including (TPLF, Jawar etc) is the most stupid thing to do.

Would Ethiopia be willing to compromise with SL or would it just go in?

 

[xabashi]

Would Ethiopia be willing to compromise with SL or would it just go in?

Ethiopia sees SL as a long term business partner whether it is inside Somalia or independent. SL and Eritrea are strategic partners for diversifying our sea outlet to reduce the dependency on Djibouti. With Ethiopia's economy to grow at a faster pace, Ethiopia needs more ports including Kenyan and Sudan ports. SL and Eritrean ports are the next suited to serve Ethiopia's economy. That is our vision with SL but SL has another plan, i.e. declaring war on Ethiopia just because it didn't like PM Abiy's current policy.

 

[AbdiGeedi]

My advise for our SL still friends is this: don't threaten Ethiopia. Instead cooperate and try to change the Ethiopian policy if you don't like the current one. SL has still many Ethiopian friends inside Ethiopia. But threatening Ethiopia especially on the issue of Egypt and dam where almost all Ethiopians are united (including TPLF, Jawar etc) is the most stupid thing to do.

Isn't life a two-lane road? You are asking for the landers to support Ethiopia, but Habashis won't give them recognition. Isn't it a double faced approach that kinda negates your point?

By the way, I am a hardcore unionist.

 

[xabashi]

Isn't life a two-lane road? You are asking for the landers to support Ethiopia, but Habashis won't give them recognition. Isn't it a double faced approach that kinda negates your point?

By the way, I am a hardcore unionist.

Ethiopia already gave SL what is possible and no other country gave. Ethiopia has a consulate in Hargesa and SL has the same in Addis Ababa. SL students get scholarship in Ethiopia. SL military personnel get training in Ethiopian military collages. There is economic cooperation. Name one country that did so for SL? Even if Ethiopia don't want to be the first to recognize, does that really be a reason to go full against Ethiopia, cooperate with its enemy, give military base to attack Ethiopia? Really? And SL can pressure Ethiopia with such stupid behaviour? In my view this will backfire and Ethiopia will stop all cooperation and start a military operation to stop this national threat once and for all. In fact Ethiopia may come to the conclusion that the existance of SL outside of Somalia is a national threat and SL should always be part of Somalia. I think you know our mentality, pressuring and forcing will only achieve the opposite of the intended purpose. Friendly cooperation and respect is the way to go. Remember when it comes to GERD Ethiopia even rebuked Trump and the US and refused to listen. This is a very sensitive issue for Ethiopia and SL thinks it can pressure Ethiopia? It can only backfire badly.

 

[AbdiGeedi]

By the way, many if not the vast majority of Somalis trying to migrate to Europe and now kept in captivity in Libya as slaves are from Somaliland. They get mistreated and even killed. There are slave markets in Libya in the Haftar controlled areas in the East Libya. And yet the landers are the first to lick that Arab ass.

 

[FarxanFarax223]

By the way, many if not the vast majority of Somalis trying to migrate to Europe and now kept in captivity in Libya as slaves are from Somaliland. They get mistreated and even killed. There are slave markets in Libya in the Haftar controlled areas in the East Libya. And yet the landers are the first to lick that Arab ass.

You come with this bullshit but don't bat an eyelid hearing all this wannabe Habashyad's state propaganda and coonery?