Ethiopians standing with Black Supremacists

[balanbalis]

Imo Ethiopia has great rich history and we always lived together anyways my point was they don't mix with others and even look down on mixing with Somalis and vice versa.

'Ethiopians don't mix with Somalis' Ethiopia is a colonial construct that is comprised of an (At least) 3% overall Somali population, and a great maybe 30% chunk of their land belong to Somalis.

For better or for worse Somalis are also 'Ethiopians'.

 

[Sup]

I find it very bizarre that there are Ethiopians online who like to pretend to be black supremacist (especially their women) and call Somali Italian slaves and such. It is bizarre that they flex about never being colonized. I did the math of "colonization" which btw was 42 years. Just keep in mind even England was colonized by the Romans for centuries. Why do these Ethiopians think this is a flex and why don't their fake black supremacy card get revoked? Yet Somalis are the ones disliked more than them when they taunt us for being colonized. What about the rest of Africa?

Of course a nation will get colonized if they are bombed like both Somalia and Ethiopia were. Imo I think low key black supremacists hate/love Ethiopians for 1 being seen as the closest to Ancient Egyptians which black supremacist exalt and 2nd for their royalty Haile Selassie. Westerns love the whole resistance movements which is why they love Arafat and the M.E resistance movements.

Selassie represented that and the Europeans favoured him more than Garvey who imo was far more impressive. Garvey didn't come from royalty and was from an oppressed group but yet he rose. He also told Black Americans the truth about their status. And post-trump world is evidence he was right, they will always keep dealing with racism when things get bad. Yet Selassie was worshiped more than Garvey by his own people which is such a shame, but he was ahead of his time.

I do think Selassie's speech was wonderful where he predicted WW1/2. But I wonder how Ethiopians have gotten away with their obvious tribalism and superiority complex and yet Somalis get dragged. What is interesting is everywhere Somalis live with Ethiopians in the West, they have this superiority complex and think we are savage, but they are just weak minded. I have never seen Ethiopians in the West dominate like Somalis do. But how they created this image is insane to me.

Always found it strange why Ethiopian brag about “never been colonised”. It wasn’t of their own volition, when the Italians occupied Ethiopia. Haile Selassie fled to England were he sort protection from her majesty the Queen, when the world war came about the Italians were severely weakened, the British in turn pushed them out of Ethiopia and occupied the country and then literally put Haile Selassie back on the throne. But yet they make it out to be some sort of resistance that fought off the “colonisers”. To each their own I suppose.

 

[cunug3aad]

It's hard to have peace on lands with famines etc. Perhaps the discovery of oil will change things.

Horror horror I hope they never find oil Almost waan dhaarayaa

 

[OOScoe]

Bob Marley? Rasta movement? The overall dislike to Somalis but embracing Ethiopia culture? Imo Ethiopia has great rich history and we always lived together anyways my point was they don't mix with others and even look down on mixing with Somalis and vice versa. But overtime Somalia's image got tarnished whereas Ethiopia is generally more liked. I mean nation state reputation not the people, as most people can't even tell the difference, we look the same to them like Jamacians and Barbados or something like that. Except major differences in language, religion
(obv they fellow other religions).

You don't noticed this? Is the Rasta movement or the love for Selassie not enough evidence? I was referring to Black supremacists in the West.

What u call black supremacy others may not - (Rasta's)
Here's Oxfords definition of Supremacy:

"the state or condition of being superior to all others in authority, power, or status."

Words have meaning so let's be careful with them.


We're also discussing mindsets from the early 1900's.
Only a generation or 2 removed from chattel slavery & still having to contend with white nationalism in it's rawest form & everything that manifest from that.

Ofcourse people were looking for a leader.
The coon rhetoric Salasie & by extension Ethiopians were on was obviously a non issue, if they were even aware of the type of sentiment they spewed at the time.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if most diasporans couldn't locate Africa on a world map.
Back then & today. U can't expect allegiance from a people who largely don't even know themselves.

Ethiopia gets praised because it destroyed old colonial myths used to justify the enslavement & inferiority of an entire continent.

Somali's AND OTHER AFRICANS
get sidelined due to modern beefs.

Back & forth arguing with one another
Name calling
Finger pointing
The list is long.

Only way that gets corrected is if we correct it.


Our ancestors were PRESSURE!!

We some dumb mf's who can't even link up to dead our issues.
Knuckle draggin low iQ niggas fr!

Concerned about the dumbest shit while the entire world steals & plots on us.

My take is this... Do somethin worthy of praise like fighting for a cause bigger than urself & people will reciprocate!!

Just like they did back in the day when liberation poetry & ideals were at the forefront of Somali politics!


When the Somali EXPELLED western aggression from their lands in the 90's.Which group of people do u think were cheering them on?

 

[Xabeshi]

The Sword of Islam, il Duce Benito Mussolini was very anti slavery. They even made a song about freeing them

Wow, didn't expect to see this here! Faccetta Nera is as ubiquitous in Italy as Erika is in Germany, in fact I'd say the average Italian would recognise it just based off the first three notes

 

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[Aurelian]

Wow, didn't expect to see this here! Faccetta Nera is as ubiquitous in Italy as Erika is in Germany, in fact I'd say the average Italian would recognise it just based off the first three notes

Oho, I didn't know it was in bar as Erika. Disgusting song then

 

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[sh-89]

What u call black supremacy others may not - (Rasta's)
Here's Oxfords definition of Supremacy:

"the state or condition of being superior to all others in authority, power, or status."

Words have meaning so let's be careful with them.


We're also discussing mindsets from the early 1900's.
Only a generation or 2 removed from chattel slavery & still having to contend with white nationalism in it's rawest form & everything that manifest from that.

Ofcourse people were looking for a leader.
The coon rhetoric Salasie & by extension Ethiopians were on was obviously a non issue, if they were even aware of the type of sentiment they spewed at the time.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if most diasporans couldn't locate Africa on a world map.
Back then & today. U can't expect allegiance from a people who largely don't even know themselves.

Ethiopia gets praised because it destroyed old colonial myths used to justify the enslavement & inferiority of an entire continent.

Somali's AND OTHER AFRICANS
get sidelined due to modern beefs.

Back & forth arguing with one another
Name calling
Finger pointing
The list is long.

Only way that gets corrected is if we correct it.


Our ancestors were PRESSURE!!

We some dumb mf's who can't even link up to dead our issues.
Knuckle draggin low iQ niggas fr!

Concerned about the dumbest shit while the entire world steals & plots on us.

My take is this... Do somethin worthy of praise like fighting for a cause bigger than urself & people will reciprocate!!

Just like they did back in the day when liberation poetry & ideals were at the forefront of Somali politics!


When the Somali EXPELLED western aggression from their lands in the 90's.Which group of people do u think were cheering them on?

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I wasn't attacking the Selassie I was asking why no one picks up on Ethiopians ethnocentric narratives which is the same as Somalis if not worst. They look down on us and other Africans. How can Black supremacists (and yes thats a real thing nacaas), like them as they belittle Somalis for being colonized, what does that say about the rest of Africa? The internet knows this not and they are catching on. It's not a good flex to have.

What's hilarious is you want Somalis to get along yet you are aggressive and negative on here calling all of us dumb, insulting the diaspora while we give billions in remittance. People like you are the problem. We were forced to flee and you guys have the audacity to talk down to us, f*ck off.


And I will end your bullshit tirade very easily and then you are dismissed. You are claiming Somalis can't get along and fight too much correct? Well I hate to break this news to you but:

Ethiopia has the most brutal war of the 21st century.

I can't wait until the diaspora stop sending money and aid to these ungrateful bastards in Somalia who always talk down to the diaspora when we are keeping your asses alive. Go f*ck yourselves. Soon the aid money will be gone and you will have to work instead of hating on us from your computers and smoking khaat. Uff get a life.

Or ancestors have never faced what the diaspora does, you think it is easy to go to a new country, compete with everyone who has a head start. While dealing with hate from every group and yet we are still getting educated despite facing hostilities. We are our ancestors, they are us and their bravery didn't disappear from our veins neither did our toughness. Naga amus you old bitter man and stop living in the past. You should save your talking down to the boomers who ruined Somalia not me. f*ck off.

 

[sh-89]

Horror horror I hope they never find oil Almost waan dhaarayaa

Oh if they do its a wrap for us. Somalis have enjoyed a society that Hitler could only dream of, we are insular and ethnocentric. We have our own people and land to ourselves, money brings people from other societies to come. If you have money, then the people will flock to your land and your culture will be destroyed. Somalis also reproduce a lot. Europe can only dream of this. But if Oil comes we will get a better life, wealth etc but the insular culture will be gone. We will have mass mixing and people from everywhere coming to Somalia. I also think they will grant Somalia Arab status, real Arab status and absorb it into M.E. Arabs will also come to the land more frequently, our culture will die. Look at the M.E now. People who want modernity will be happy but anyone who loves their culture will be labelled racist and told to shut up just like how native europeans are treated.

 

[sh-89]

'Ethiopians don't mix with Somalis' Ethiopia is a colonial construct that is comprised of an (At least) 3% overall Somali population, and a great maybe 30% chunk of their land belong to Somalis.

For better or for worse Somalis are also 'Ethiopians'.

I like Ethiopians and I think we are the same people. My question was in regards to why/or how they got away with this image with other Black people? That was my question. My Ethiopian friends parents would die if they married anyone outside their tribe let alone black or white. This is what I am talking about. They are like us.

 

[Gracias]

I like Ethiopians and I think we are the same people. My question was in regards to why/or how they got away with this image with other Black people? That was my question. My Ethiopian friends parents would die if they married anyone outside their tribe let alone black or white. This is what I am talking about. They are like us.

WHAT? I was kinda agreeing with you until you said this. We are not the same in any way

 

[sh-89]

WHAT? I was kinda agreeing with you until you said this. We are not the same in any way

TBF I meant in the diaspora. We are seen the same. I don't think Greeks and Italians are the same (diff language, culture, food etc) it's like that. Out of any other group of the world, we are the closest to them and other E.A. Back home we different but outside, trust me most people think we are the same. I get called Ethiopian all the time.

 

[OOScoe]

I wasn't attacking the Selassie I was asking why no one picks up on Ethiopians ethnocentric narratives which is the same as Somalis if not worst. They look down on us and other Africans. How can Black supremacists (and yes thats a real thing nacaas), like them as they belittle Somalis for being colonized, what does that say about the rest of Africa? The internet knows this not and they are catching on. It's not a good flex to have.

What's hilarious is you want Somalis to get along yet you are aggressive and negative on here calling all of us dumb, insulting the diaspora while we give billions in remittance. People like you are the problem. We were forced to flee and you guys have the audacity to talk down to us, f*ck off.


And I will end your bullshit tirade very easily and then you are dismissed. You are claiming Somalis can't get along and fight too much correct? Well I hate to break this news to you but:

Ethiopia has the most brutal war of the 21st century.

I can't wait until the diaspora stop sending money and aid to these ungrateful bastards in Somalia who always talk down to the diaspora when we are keeping your asses alive. Go f*ck yourselves. Soon the aid money will be gone and you will have to work instead of hating on us from your computers and smoking khaat. Uff get a life.

Or ancestors have never faced what the diaspora does, you think it is easy to go to a new country, compete with everyone who has a head start. While dealing with hate from every group and yet we are still getting educated despite facing hostilities. We are our ancestors, they are us and their bravery didn't disappear from our veins neither did our toughness. Naga amus you old bitter man and stop living in the past. You should save your talking down to the boomers who ruined Somalia not me. f*ck off.

Dude calm yo hyper ass down & get that estrogen out yo system.
I didn't say nothin crazy - u took it that way.

I mentioned Selassie because u can't mention Jamaican/African nationalism or the ideologies the Rastas subscribe too without him.

Like I said words have meaning.
Supremacy like racism require POWER to implement! The African diaspora largely has none - we just got big mouth pieces.

Without power u just blowin smoke.


Some of this stuff is pretty basic post colonial history, u should brush up on some of it.

The diaspora in the context of this conversation applies to all peoples of African descent outside of the continent.

I never singled out Somali's i touched on the why's & premise of your original question.
(Why do some black nationalist types revere Ethiopia & shun others.)

& I'm still standing on that.
Learn the history before u critique ideas u don't even understand.

I said Africans are dumb asf as a collective & we are. The stakes are WAAY to high to be moaning about irrelevant shit WHEN THE WORLD IS PLOTTING ON US.
We literally can't afford to be braindead & out of touch regarding certain issues, especially these days.

U got negative digit iq points if u can't comprehend why something like TRUE sovereignty supercedes ALL.
A core belief of most black nationalism.

Isolation & bigotry won't rebuild Somalia or Africa for that matter.. (How's that workin out for the USA).
Removing hindrances,Open trade & real sovereignty will.

I actually agree with u somewhat on ur fob point.
People from the continent DON'T understand how chaotic it can be trying to maintain something here in the west.

I'm not no fob tho nigga.

I'm black American.
I've said this many times here u just didn't get the memo.

I'm one of the most non divisive people here.
I clown around alot but I'm still gon speak my mind respectfully.

U should try it lil nigga.
& watch yo tone responding to me dude.
I'm a 90's baby btw. Far from a old nigga.

Respect is a 2 way street.