Eritrean DNA

[Zak12]

Stop cherrypicking lol.Anyone with two functional eyes know that Northern Horners are lighter and more Caucasoid then us...

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Like I said, there are Bantus in the south so it might give the impression that southern Somalis are darker but the ethnic Somalis there look no different from northern Somalis. Somalis in general are genetically homogenous. And once again, Tigrays don't look much different from Somalis.

 

[giire12]

Genetic's is also random, it's never a perfect 50/50 split from each parent, it's definitely plausible for someone's parents to carry Mota or minor Arabian and for it not to be passed down to the offspring.There's also the issue of people testing with different companies and snp count, the limits of tools like G25 and people using different/flawed models etc is also to blame.

Exactly, all of these factors needs to be considered before jumping to conclusion, I am still on the fence, but as of now, this research stands firm.

Interesting theory. In truth, I don't tend to care.

My main point is we aren't all the same. And Gadabuursi settlements and marital patterns certainly make a difference. I'd like to know since someone with relatives who married groups like Gurgura, Akisho or Cissa might appear different from someone who only married neighbouring Samaroon. I saw a Cissa with elevated Mota because of where he was settled in Ethiopia. I have seen other Cissa with zero. And even our little Somali Nationalist Cissa warrior buddy @Khaemwaset has a Yemeni grandmother or great-grandmother. So yes, family history certainly matters. I even saw a Sacad Musse with zero Mota so I wouldn't make any assumptions. FYI, my great-grandmothers are Geri Kombe and Sacad Musse, yet my results are Zero. As I said before when speaking with my Samaroon kinfolk, an in-depth understanding of their family, marital, and settlement patterns matters.

Yes, i do agree with you, i have also seen sacad muuse with 0% Mota, but have a look at this map.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Northern Horners aren't lol. Somalis are genetically homogenous. And like I said, Tigrays don't look much different from Somalis.
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Eritrea is full of different groups, stop shifting the goal post.Tigrayans,Tigre,Beni Amer & Saho all look more Caucasoid then the dark skin/mariin lamagoodle.They also have more typical West Eurasian/Semitic features compared to us.

Tigre (Lowland Muslim Pastoralists)

Highland Tigrynya People (mostly xtians)

Beni Amer (lownland pastoralists, speak Arabic & Tigre)

Somalis

 

[Zak12]

Eritrea is full of different groups, stop shifting the goal post.

Where did I deny that lol? I'm clearly talking about Tigray people.

Somalis barely look different from those groups, get your eyes checked. The only difference at this point are the skin tones.

 

[Garaad Awal]

Where did I deny that lol? I'm clearly talking about Tigray people.

Somalis barely look different from those groups, get your eyes checked. The only difference at this point are the skin tones.
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Eritrea doesn't have Tigrayans...you are lost in the sauce my nigga

 

[Zak12]

Eritrea doesn't have Tigrayans...you are lost in the sauce my nigga

You are right my mistake, but at the same time it doesn't make much of a difference.

 

[Garaad Awal]

You are right my mistake, but at the same time it doesn't make much of a difference.

You made many mistakes like accusing my photos of Somalilanders of possibly having Bantus despite Bantus being non-existent there
Even ajaanib know that Somalis are darker and less West Eurasian looking on average compared to Northern Horners

 

[Zak12]

Even ajaanib know that Somalis are darker and less West Eurasian

Like who? The average ajnabi probably can't even differentiate us lol.

 

[Zak12]

Btw, here is what internet people think is the typical phenotype of Horners.

North Ethiopid (Tigray/Eritrea)

East Ethiopid (Somalis)

 

[World]

Eritrean groups on average look way more Caucasoid and visibly mixed then Somalis. The Eritreans,Sudanese Arabs & Nubians have that biracial look that is quite common among them which is rare among ethnic Somalis.Makes sense tho as most Eritrean groups excluding the Kunama & Nara are vastly more West Eurasian than us Somalis

They look more visibly mixed due to their skin tone, not due to their features.

 

[Sophisticate]

Btw, here is what internet people think is the typical phenotype of Horners.

North Ethiopid (Tigray/Eritrea)
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East Ethiopid (Somalis)
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It's not about skin tone or admixture. You see more Somalis with gracile features walking around. And not just any old gracile features, the kind that doesn't jet out of the face like "Euroasians." The nasal protrusion, though it exists among Somalis, is more associated with Semetic shifted Horners. The nasal tip and the nostrils are often smaller for Geeljire. I wish some of you would stop aligning yourself with "Cuck-Asians.' When most need a rhinoplasty for your nose.

 

[Zak12]

It's not about skin tone or admixture. You see more Somalis with gracile features walking around. And not just any old gracile features, the kind that doesn't jet out of the face like "Euroasians." The nasal protrusion, though it exists among Somalis, is more associated with Semetic shifted Horners. The nasal tip and the nostrils are often smaller for Geeljire. I wish some of you would stop aligning yourself with "Cuck-Asians.' When most need a rhinoplasty for your nose.

If you are referring to Semitic features then yeah. Our noses aren't as hooked like Ethiosemites are and we aren't as stocky and short as they are. Also, I'm not trying to align myself with Eurasians lmao. We are very much black and Eritreans aren't any different.

 

[NidarNidar]

I had no clue @NidarNidar has some recent Ethiopian ancestry, i thought he was fully Dir. I also did not know some Gadabuursi live in K5, I thought it was only Borama and Djibouti. In time with more somalis taking the test we will have better picture. I agree on the background checks and maybe if we go deep, people who are showing mota could have some affinity with some Ethiopians but as of now I am not so sure, many K5, south eastern somalia (jubaland) and SL regions are showing minuscule Mota.

I have read somewhere that our 40% Eurasian is more ancient, around the time E1b1b or Natufians come to settle in the Horn of Africa, so here we are talking around Nealothic period (8000 BCE). Tigrinyas Eurasian is split into two, one thats neolithic period and a more recent one (around 2000 years ago).

That 15% is actually alot, if they lacked the Omotic admixture, the difference would have been visible. Barwanis are 65 to 75% Eurasian, around 15% more than Eritreans but the difference is visible.

You'll get some admixture in the border regions more often a lot of the Oromo Muslims tend to cluster with Somalis, most of them being oromized Somalis, through both 23&me and even illustrate didn't get any Oromo.

I never said Habesha have kinky hair, I only mentioned that wavy to curly hair is more common in Somalis compared to habesha. Actually Oromos in Bale are even less likely to have a curly 3C hair. That does not mean all of them are kinky hair and i have seen some with hairs like 2A. I actually work with so many sudanese, oromo, Eritreans and other habesha. The oromos that are heavily mixed with omotic is from Bale regions, sheshemaney, Borana and etc, while Herar and Haraghe regions have less Omotic.

The problem is that the few Gadbuursi that have inputted their cords into Vahuduo come out with minor Mota except your result, so i dont want to be biased and say all Gadabuursi get a pass for 0% Mota as reference to your result, thats biased. Also i have not made any leaps or generalization as i said and mentioned before that all results are still inconclusive. I said "In time with more somalis taking the test we will have a better picture".

I think my mota was under 3% I would expect more Somalis with ancestry on the border regions to have some admixture.

Everyone in my family tends to have either 3a-3b hair.

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It's seems clear that the Somaloid-Oromoid branch emerged in the Southern Horn.The PIA ancestry in Northern Horners is probably diffused by Somaloid & Oromoid migrations north and interacting with Northern & Central Horner groups

can I get that source bro.

 

[NidarNidar]

It's not about skin tone or admixture. You see more Somalis with gracile features walking around. And not just any old gracile features, the kind that doesn't jet out of the face like "Euroasians." The nasal protrusion, though it exists among Somalis, is more associated with Semetic shifted Horners. The nasal tip and the nostrils are often smaller for Geeljire. I wish some of you would stop aligning yourself with "Cuck-Asians.' When most need a rhinoplasty for your nose.

lol this hit close to home, I usually have trouble breathing in cold air in cold European winters, and usually get cut in my subnasal, always happened to just myself and one of my younger brothers, the other one has a hooked-shaped nose and breathes just fine.

 

[SoMal]

I'm not seeing it. View attachment 300216

These are Tigrayan Ethiopians

 

[Nin123]

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I legit had no idea that Eritreans were this Eurasian admixed. I thought they would cluster with Oromos and Afars like the Amhara do. How come a lot of them look as madow than Ethiopians and Somalis do?

Wtf is yuroba means does it mean the Nigerian tribe?

 

[saho_em84]

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[saho_em84]

Saho Clans (Kinship Groups) | allsaho

 

[Himmler]

Lmao I found this

TikTok - Make Your Day

This is fake those are clearly not Ethiopians

 

[Himmler]

Eritrean men I see are skinny, between 5'5 to 5'7, dark maariin to dark skinned with kinky-curly hair.

You have only seen FOBs then, most Eritreans born and raised in the UK are brown or light skinned and around 5’9

Many can pass as Somali