ENDF announce end of regional forces in Ethiopia and Somali region

Are you describing yourself?
We disnt ran away from MSB in 1991.
Imagine running away from someone that brought you from the bush in 1969 and tried to civilise you and also sacrificed his seat and power so that bushmen like you would have a place in Somalia.

What was the payback? You ran to Kenya and left MSB to fend for himself.
You couldnt hold him in Gedo with all the weapons you had you still couldnt even trust the russian weapons you had stockpiled.

Keed dividing Gedo into subdistricts and divisions still you arr langaab and there is no hawiye or dhulbahante forces to protect you.

All your lies of "we are being bombed by Kenya" to get sympathy from somalis has been wasted.

Now you are a langaab waiting for another messiah who will fool other somalis to fight for you.Where is abye will capture Kismaayo for mx dream gone to?

1991 you where hutu condom. they rewarded you by slaughtering 5000 caaghdeers and dumping their corpses into the shabeele river. and in 2022 you are again hutu condom.

how long will kenya protect you in kismaayo? a laangaab that in all of somalia only lives in afmadow.

get ready for wasmo. if ethiopia gets rid of liyu police you won't have ethiopia trained and funded militia protecting you.

there is no human being with a more shameful history then an caaghdeer.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
Wishful dreams. kkkkk. :childplease::camby:



Agreed. I find it hilarious if people think that ethnic federalism will be abolished simply like that. We all saw the disastrous war against Tigrayans, that the regime couldn't face by themselves, without Eritrean support. Imagine if the entire country go against him, because at this point most people are pro-ethnic federalism. Along with every other problem in ETH, they are heading backwards.

Recently Oromia president were begging OLF to negotiations.



Think long term. Integrating into the national army is nothing short of suicide. First of all, we (Somalis) have never historically fought for Ethiopians (interests) in their imperial/genocidal wars. Imagine if this happened 3 years ago, most of them would've probably been perished by now in Tigray. The regime doesn't care about its people, let alone its armed forces. We will be nothing, but cannon fodders.
Hardly wishful thinking. I am just reporting the news and the going on’s in Tigray and now Amhara point to this to be true. You really think now that TPLF have surrendered, other parts of Ethiopia can hold out?

All it takes is to order the regional presidents left to ‘integrate’ their forces into the federal machine. And I’m sure Cagjar will put up as little resistance as possible.
 
1991 you where hutu condom. they rewarded you by slaughtering 5000 caaghdeers and dumping their corpses into the shabeele river. and in 2022 you are again hutu condom.

how long will kenya protect you in kismaayo? a laangaab that in all of somalia only lives in afmadow.

get ready for wasmo. if ethiopia gets rid of liyu police you won't have ethiopia trained and funded militia protecting you.

there is no human being with a more shameful history then an caaghdeer.
You are cali besteen of somalia why did msb escape to Kenya?you were king was actually saved by KDF helicopter.
You guys had all the weapons to fight 100 HG militia.

You were always nobodies before msb and you went back to that status.

Using Kenya as an excuse will not work and you know that.
 
Sorry but you seem to have made the mistake of assuming Meles a laangaab Tigray who needed ethnic federalism is something the now Abiy Oromo elites need. Oromo dominated federal forces will be controlling all parts of Ethiopia it looks like. Abiy is well on his way to his goal as he now crushes Amhara after Tigray surrender.

Crushing Amharas, will lead them to cooperate with Tigrayans now, just like the desperate Tigrayans did during the war with OLF. When TPLF terror listed them and Tigrayan warlords commanders just prior to war, were killing them, during their reign in power. kkkk :pachah1:

Hardly wishful thinking. I am just reporting the news and the going on’s in Tigray and now Amhara point to this to be true. You really think now that TPLF have surrendered, other parts of Ethiopia can hold out?

All it takes is to order the regional presidents left to ‘integrate’ their forces into the federal machine. And I’m sure Cagjar will put up as little resistance as possible.

With wishful thinking, I meant Abiy's aspirations of abolishing ethnic federalism.

As far as holding out, we've seen before. You don't really need to be organized to fight against the state. Look at OLF, who are fighting the regime with mostly arms and arsenals they've seized from the national army. And it's easy to smuggle in too. Not to mention, the possibiltiy of help from external state actors...

Even if Abiy consolidates power with Oromo elites and manages to united all Oromos, it will not be sustainable. History has shown that. Ethiopia regimes has barely made it long term, without support, even passive support, from other ethnic groups. Internal wars have occurred, when it didn't happened.

Mark my words, if he indeed succeeds; Amharas, Tigrayans, Somalis and other "marginalized" people will together undermine the state one way or another, even without war. It will simply not work.
 
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Oromo Christians are majority Pentecostal while Amharas are majority orthodox. Ethnic Federalism is the only glue keeping these 2 ethnic groups from committing genocide against each other. You’ve seen what the Amharas and Eritrea (Tigre) did to their own Habesha orthodox brothers in Mekelle. They slaughtered and raped the Tigrays in Axum, shire, and Lalibela.

Abiy Ahmed and PP are majority Pentecostal. They want to remove the Orthodox Church influence which is built on Dynasties & family business. The Orthodox Church in Ethiopia = the Solomonic family regime
 
You are cali besteen of somalia why did msb escape to Kenya?you were king was actually saved by KDF helicopter.
You guys had all the weapons to fight 100 HG militia.

You were always nobodies before msb and you went back to that status.

Using Kenya as an excuse will not work and you know that.

@Sheikh Kulkuli they are condoms for Amhara. Gedo has been an Ethiopian mini colony since 1994. These ENDF troops have free passages in all their towns. Amharic is the 2nd most popular language in Garbahareey


 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
Wishful dreams. kkkkk. :childplease::camby:



Agreed. I find it hilarious if people think that ethnic federalism will be abolished simply like that. We all saw the disastrous war against Tigrayans, that the regime couldn't face by themselves, without Eritrean support. Imagine if the entire country go against him, because at this point most people are pro-ethnic federalism. Along with every other problem in ETH, they are heading backwards. Ethiopian society is fragmented to the point that anything can break it down now. Even without major war. Just coordinated/organized actions against the regime throughout the country. Are they then going to kill everyone?

Recently Oromia president were begging OLF to negotiations.



Think long term. Integrating into the national army is nothing short of suicide. First of all, we (Somalis) have never historically fought for Ethiopians (interests) in their imperial/genocidal wars. Imagine if this happened 3 years ago, most of them would've probably been perished by now in Tigray. The regime doesn't care about its people, let alone its armed forces. We will be nothing, but cannon fodders.
If you look at the leaked excerpts of conversations between Americans and Abiy you can see he doesn’t give a single crap about Ethiopian lives. Think I remember him pledging to fight America’s wars even. Boasting they have a lot of people. Being integrated into federal forces is a disaster
 
If you look at the leaked excerpts of conversations between Americans and Abiy you can see he doesn’t give a single crap about Ethiopian lives. Think I remember him pledging to fight America’s wars even. Boasting they have a lot of people. Being integrated into federal forces is a disaster

You're not wrong. Just the way Americans/West officially are careful with how they speak on the matter and doesn't give direct condemnations. As if they have something to loose on... Even the UN said that the Tigrayan war was severalfold worse than the war in Ukraine, but look at the difference in reactions.

Also, just because the American nodded to the regime in this war, doesn't necessary mean that they'll allow a second war, even on a smaller magnitude.

All I'm saying is that you can't rule the country, in the long term with an iron fist, only with the support of one major ethnic group. Historically, fighting against one ethnic group has always been enough to keep the regime busy, so it won't be easy. This time around, few will surely dare to use armed struggle, but again it will crumble from within if the entire country opposes, in due time.
 
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Gif-King
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Sorry but you seem to have made the mistake of assuming Meles a laangaab Tigray who needed ethnic federalism is something the now Abiy Oromo elites need. Oromo dominated federal forces will be controlling all parts of Ethiopia it looks like. Abiy is well on his way to his goal as he now crushes Amhara after Tigray surrender.
Im not talking about ethnic federalism im talking about the regional forces that came about later. A million times ethiopia has tried just using Oromo and ethnic langaab fodder in the army to pacify the regions and failed. Pre-TPLF Ethiopia was a complete wild west incapable of truly weeding out insurgents.

Your theory is founded on 2 ideas:
1.)Abiy is an Oromo elite and has operated with that intent
2.)Oromos even if a single united block being a plurality have the capacity to dominate all regions independently and indefinitely

I dont believe either are really true
 
Another golden opportunity was missed when Cagjar helped Abiy regime as TPLF/OLA were rolling through Wollo on their way to storming AddisAbaba
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
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After a conference and the news of the end of ethnic federalism, Irir Samaale propose two new regions directly under the Ethiopian government. Unlikely to happen of course but if DDS resist being taken over Abiy this will be a good plot for him.
 

Abaq

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I see this being the proposed regions

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There's a lot of OG/Absame lands included in the pink/purple/green/yellow. The only people that can feasibly leave with a chunk of land that won't even amount to a full region are the ciise in Shinniile and the Garre in Moyaale. All the rest only own a few districts, majority of the actual landmass is OG/Absame
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
Should be divided by clan.
I’d love to see an accurate clan map. OG claim everything but that is clearly not the reality. If Abiy is smart he can break it all up into clan regions under the federal government, ruling directly and he’d get support from the majority of the population there most likely.
 
There's a lot of OG/Absame lands included in the pink/purple/green/yellow. The only people that can feasibly leave with a chunk of land that won't even amount to a full region are the ciise in Shinniile and the Garre in Moyaale. All the rest only own a few districts, majority of the actual landmass is OG/Absame

I've seen that map too, and it's most likely fake. It even includes Oromo districts/regions, that some Somali clans voluntarily chose be incorporated into Oromia. :heh:
 
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