Education in Somalia

[GemState]

I wrote a thread on the Long-Run Decline of Education Quality in the Developing World, essentially every country in the 3rd world is facing massive decline in quality.

Rapid expansion in the amounts of schools outpaced the decline in education quality, leading to a lot of African & Asian high school and Uni students being barely literate. The obsession with credentialism is also a huge issue.

Anecdotal but it adds up for me, older Africans brought up in the independence/Socialist generations that seem to me far more intelligent than African Gen Z millenials today. In Ethiopia barely anyone passed high school exams.

The study wants to quantify if there is an educational crisis in the developing world. or more precisely has the educational quality declined over the last fifty years?




HOW TO READ THE RESULTS

I am going to explain the results for the Philippines

	First	Last	First (Lr)	Last (Lr)	First S>5	Last S>5	First (Lr5)	Last (Lr5)
Philippines	1955	1988	92.2%	96.7%	88.4%	95.7%	92.4%	83.8%

Lr - For Filipino women born in 1955, the literacy rate was 92.2%, for those born in 1988, the literacy rate was 96.7%.

S>5 - Is the share with 5 years or more of schooling. It is 88.4% for those born in 1955, and 95.7% for those born in 1988.

Lr5 - Conditional Literacy is the literacy that was tested. 92.4% in the 1955 Cohort and 83.5% in the 1988 Cohort.

While some people would look at the results and say they are out of date, and not relevant. However, what it shows is for most countries, the quality of education has declined over the last 40-50 years. This is even true for countries like the Philippines, where over 85% born in the 1950s had 5 or more years of schooling.


Relative to other parts of the developing world did ASEAN OK. Africa and South Asia showed large drops. The Middle East stagnated, while Latin America showed slight improvement. However, when you break down the results for ASEAN, the majority of countries still show a drop. Djibouti & Somalia very slighty improved too

https://www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/long-run-decline-education-quality-developing-world.pdf

 

[GemState]

I think it will just get worse from here tbh. I don't think educating everyone will work very well, instead I'd give everyone a general education, while making kids do IQ tests very early on from 7 until 11.

Throw all resources toward the top 5% in scores and give them the best education/nutrition possible, fast track them to all government positions and just hope that they can act as the foundation for the rest of the country and a vanguard for development.

 

[hayran]

We need to import high IQ brahmins/chinese. 150k of those will have us leapfrogging most of africa

Somalia needs to be as elitist as possible

 

[hayran]

Anecdotal but it adds up for me, older Africans brought up in the independence/Socialist generations that seem to me far more intelligent than African Gen Z millenials today. In Ethiopia barely anyone passed high school exams.

It’s a reverse Flynn effect, global IQ peaked with the generation born in the 70s

 

[mohammdov]

It’s a reverse Flynn effect, global IQ peaked with the generation born in the 70s

It is difficult to raise the IQ in Somalia. Most of the water that Somalis drink is contaminated with lead and other things also malnutrition is spread
There is something called collective intelligence, which means that the intelligence of the people around you determines your intelligence as well
This is because of history and changes. People in Europe, for example, have political maturity and economic maturity, unlike Somalia. They have not learned much from history, so they don't know what to do.

 

[GemState]

We need to import high IQ brahmins/chinese. 150k of those will have us leapfrogging most of africa

Somalia needs to be as elitist as possible

Lol Darwins cousin and the father of Eugenics, Francis Galton was calling for Chinese to move into Uganda/Kenya/Tanzania in the tens of millions back in the 1890s. Imagine Mombasa or Kampala looking like Tokyo or Shanghai?

holy shit Suifuel

Africa For The Chinese by Francis Galton

 

[GemState]

It is difficult to raise the IQ in Somalia. Most of the water that Somalis drink is contaminated with lead and other things also malnutrition is spread
There is something called collective intelligence, which means that the intelligence of the people around you determines your intelligence as well
This is because of history and changes. People in Europe, for example, have political maturity and economic maturity, unlike Somalia. They have not learned much from history, so they don't know what to do.

By the late Middle Ages, courts were condemning to death between 0.5 and 1.0% of all men of each generation, with perhaps just as many offenders dying at the scene of the crime or in prison while awaiting trial. Meanwhile, the homicide rate plummeted from the 14th century to the 20th.

The pool of violent men dried up until most murders occurred under conditions of jealousy, intoxication, or extreme stress. The decline in personal violence is usually attributed to harsher punishment and the longer-term effects of cultural conditioning. It may also be, however, that this new cultural environment selected against propensities for violence.

Lessons for Africa? @AbdiFreedom always says we should just execute criminals, maybe he was onto something.

 

[hayran]

Lol Darwins cousin and the father of Eugenics, Francis Galton was calling for Chinese to move into Uganda/Kenya/Tanzania in the tens of millions back in the 1890s. Imagine Mombasa or Kampala looking like Tokyo or Shanghai?

holy shit Suifuel

Africa For The Chinese by Francis Galton

kenya already practices this on a smaller scale and they are the most livable country in SSA in competition with south africa

africans would be uplifted if they let go of fake and gay ethno-racial nationalism. many great nations outside of africa were hard carried by foreign elites. we should do this now while our population is small

 

[GemState]

kenya already practices this on a smaller scale and they are the most livable country in SSA in competition with south africa

africans would be uplifted if they let go of fake and gay ethno-racial nationalism. many great nations outside of africa were hard carried by foreign elites. we should do this now while our population is small

Problem for Africa is the obvious skin difference. Sounds retarded, but when Circassian/Balkan Muslims were running The Middle East during the Ottoman period they could blend in to the population to an extent, so it wasn't as aggravating. Same for Chinese and South East Asians.

If non blacks come into Africa by a huge amount, even if it lead to 15% GDP growth, wouldn't take long for machetes to come out.

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

We need to import high IQ brahmins/chinese. 150k of those will have us leapfrogging most of africa

Somalia needs to be as elitist as possible

Somalia needs to import Indian tutors especially in the STEM field

 

[hayran]

Problem for Africa is the obvious skin difference. Sounds retarded, but when Circassian/Balkan Muslims were running The Middle East during the Ottoman period they could blend in to the population to an extent, so it wasn't as aggravating. Same for Chinese and South East Asians.

If non blacks come into Africa by a huge amount, even if it lead to 15% GDP growth, wouldn't take long for machetes to come out.

there are ways for us to get around the skin tax

1. desis can actually kinda blend in, somalis will be receptive because we already love bollywood and shit so why not?

2. accepting anyone who is muslim, high IQ pakis and indians but also just anyone not african. we are already receptive to turks and "syrians". secular nationalists cant be opposed to this either as this will eurasianize us more so they will be happy

3. straight up having white jews do the job for you, FGS already does this secretly. WFH makes this more viable. obviously needs to be implemented at a larger scale and that hinges on FGS getting stronger

 

[mustang22]

Somalis also need to learn languages like Italian and French, that will lift the IQ and broaden our friendships

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

By the late Middle Ages, courts were condemning to death between 0.5 and 1.0% of all men of each generation, with perhaps just as many offenders dying at the scene of the crime or in prison while awaiting trial. Meanwhile, the homicide rate plummeted from the 14th century to the 20th.

The pool of violent men dried up until most murders occurred under conditions of jealousy, intoxication, or extreme stress. The decline in personal violence is usually attributed to harsher punishment and the longer-term effects of cultural conditioning. It may also be, however, that this new cultural environment selected against propensities for violence.

Lessons for Africa? @AbdiFreedom always says we should just execute criminals, maybe he was onto something.

For minor crimes too. Littering and lack of manners in public should also place you at the wall.

 

[reer]

For minor crimes too. Littering and lack of manners in public should also place you at the wall.

abdi jong un

 

[Keep it a boqol]

Somalis also need to learn languages like Italian and French, that will lift the IQ and broaden our friendships

lmao english is better is isn’t 1960-1980 no more

 

[hayran]

Somalis also need to learn languages like Italian and French, that will lift the IQ and broaden our friendships

anything that isnt english is a waste of time

 

[NidarNidar]

It depends on the teaching method, I learned the Quran relatively quickly with the helping hand of a small stick, this allowed me to memorise most things within a short space of time, I only focused on topics I loved in school, and crammed 9 months of school in the final week before the exam for topics I never liked.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

What you want to do is select based on merit. You test as many children as possible and give the top 20% a quality education but only basic reading, writing and math for the remaining 80%. Britain’s eleven plus test should be a good model.

This is how you limit spending on education while also getting the gains of full societal literacy.

Somalia has not reached full food security so many children are stunted and don’t reach their full cognitive potential. Any educational program that is meant to be selective/merit-based must be fair. A program to feed pregnant mothers, provide subsidized baby formula and school lunch to children up to age 11 would help ensure some fairness. It would be costly but the gains would be massive. India’s Midday Meal Scheme could be a good model here.

Selection based on merit can be a quick way to create an elite in Somali society. An elite who are accepted by everyone as legitimate.

 

[johnsepei5]

It is difficult to raise the IQ in Somalia. Most of the water that Somalis drink is contaminated with lead and other things also malnutrition is spread
There is something called collective intelligence, which means that the intelligence of the people around you determines your intelligence as well
This is because of history and changes. People in Europe, for example, have political maturity and economic maturity, unlike Somalia. They have not learned much from history, so they don't know what to do.

Can you give me sources saying that Somalia’s water is filled with lead?

 

[mohammdov]

Can you give me sources saying that Somalia’s water is filled with lead?

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