Dr Osman Wants To End Death Penalty

[Omar del Sur]

The death penalty has a high evidence requirement in Islamic sharia and given Somalia has very few reliable witnesses it’s fair to say it’ll be hardly used.

I think that's true in adultery cases but for example with murder- I think there are a number of cases where it's clear who murdered who and to my understanding, the family has the right to demand death penalty. Also there's the khawarij. in many cases I think it may be clear where a person gets busted as a khariji. and the khawarij are to be... eliminated.

 

[Omar del Sur]

another point also with capital punishment is it should be done publically. one of the problems is a lot of countries aren't doing it in public whereas it should be done in public. this will help to make it more effective at scaring potential criminals.

 

[Djokovic]

U dont have a logical brain I advise u don't do 'stems' brother stick to 'arts' or 'wadaadnimo' or emotional topics.

If death penalty is working, murder shouldn't happen, but it's INCREASING and infact noone cares to kill in somalia where death penalty is practised, why? becuz noone is scared of death penalty, I mean who would fear being put to sleep, when u know everyone else will join u anyways, punishment is when they know others wont 'join' them like hard slavery camps plus their 'alive'. Plus even allah doesnt kill ppl in hell, its not a punishment being 'deep asleep' u dummy. Do u fear when ur asleep? well thats death penalty.

Ur logic is flawed you use emotions to decide your logic not everything should be logical this si where you go wrong

 

[DR OSMAN]

Ur logic is flawed you use emotions to decide your logic not everything should be logical this si where you go wrong

Im not dumb Djokovic, I don't limit this complex life to my 'brain capacity' only, I know it's far more complex then my limited brain. Im not saying rationality is 'be all end all' but it's a good start becuz we all have brains and can agree on it, yes it's possible we all agree on something wrong, but it's better then any other model like 'trust my faith' wtf thats for god to trust or judge u on, I dont have to trust u or anyone on faith.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Djokovic rationality isn't perfect system but it's the best system out of all the various limited system which also includes 'faith'. Do u think ppl can agree thru trust on human 'faith'? Faith is invisible and for god not 4 humans to judge each other on. Like come on WTF u smoking?

Thru the use of our brains we can convince each other but im not saying it's perfect, it's just the best out of all systems. I remember 99% we all agreed solar lights was the best thing for PL, when it came, we didn't calculate ppl wud rob batteries(god was ahead of us), we all agreed on 'rationality' and it failed. So we will now improve on our rationality to fix it and ensure our future predictions do not forget 'factors' to be considered. Every topic could be like that but it's better then 'trust ppl on my invisible faith' shots fired at >>>> @Omar del Sur

 

[Djokovic]

@Djokovic rationality isn't perfect system but it's the best system out of all the various limited system which also includes 'faith'. Do u think ppl can agree thru trust on human 'faith'? Faith is invisible and for god not 4 humans to judge each other on. Like come on WTF u smoking?

Thru the use of our brains we can convince each other but im not saying it's perfect, it's just the best out of all systems. I remember 99% we all agreed solar lights was the best thing for PL, when it came, we didn't calculate ppl wud rob batteries(god was ahead of us), we all agreed on 'rationality' and it failed. So we will now improve on our rationality to fix it and ensure our future predictions do not forget 'factors' to be considered. Every topic could be like that but it's better then 'trust ppl on my invisible faith' shots fired at >>>> @Omar del Sur

Humans are flawed which is why we use the the laws of Allah not what a human thinks is right or wrong because this can vary and can change from individual to individual and from generation to generation we need constant morality and law that does not change this is how humanity has progressed

 

[DR OSMAN]

Humans are flawed which is why we use the the laws of Allah not what a human thinks is right or wrong because this can vary and can change from individual to individual and from generation to generation we need constant morality and law that does not change this is how humanity has progressed

They all place an oath of faith to the quran each minister or president or govt. That's not a perfect model, their faith is personal n private and unmeasurable to humans, because it's invisible. We can't govern ourselves on invisible shit bro, are u a child? Listen religion is about u and god why do u need human groups? will u stand before god as a group? religion must make u a better person thru 'evidence' of our eyes not thru your 'words' and tellin us to trust ur 'faith'. U rely on humans too much sxb who brainwash u that its god this and that lakin hosta dan kale ka leh.

Listen the issue isnt about who is 'right' or who is 'wrong' or us vs them child crap. Its about allowing right n wrong to co-exist equally becuz god if he didnt want it wouldnt of allowed it, its silly when u see when u see humans attempting to be lil gods like their god 'forget' something that they need to do.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Djokovic I am not feeling ultra religious today(brain drain), but i'll cut it short for u my position. If god is infinite and way beyond our understanding, then the quran should be infinite and way beyond our understanding and thru every generation we must 'grow' its interpretation to reach infinite wisdom, 1 word should have infinite meaning, it should not be trapped in 'entropy/time as it will decay, rot.

If it becomes limited to time or human or a generation even, I believe that book even if it was once true has suffered entropy and decay, while this doesnt impact god, it will impact humans. @Omar del Sur. I believe by growing our understanding of the quran this doesnt effect allah becuz he is infinite and still way ahead of us and we are babies taking small steps to grow.

U don't have to agree with me, u can hold the quran stuck to scholars or salaf generation if u want(going backwards), but my 'faith' and u will never be the same and I cant judge u nor can u judge me, we will let god decide, I have no 'ill intention' so my heart is clean, i cud be wrong due to my brain limitation tho, but my heart n intention is clean so im not worried at all after all it's not me being 'consciously deceptive' which I never in my life would be.

I also love 'diversity' due to the global village we live in, I collect all the good where-ever it is or community and create my own template not be 1 side, but collect all the good of the various side into my own template.

I am only af-naareed not qalbi naareed, im like my 'awoowe' from nugaal, bury me a G, just dont let those who hated me tomb raid me, aan idin ka naste abahina wase. Let the future honor me not my peers or time period, my time period and peers ima fahmin dee doesn't mean im wrong.

Your kids ayaa ii fahmi doonta and hopefully will erect a 'statue' for dr osman when they review/collect somali ideas to address their issues. We will all be gone by then brother and my enemies in my time will be mocked by the future like we mock pagan arabs, u will be among those i fear the future will say he was anti dr osman. I hope the future honors me becuz that's the only motivation that guides me as a 'salaheen'