Dr Osman Criticizes Anti Colonialism Africans

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
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All you Africans argue about a colonial period that lasted less then 50 years and u throw up pathetic arguments colonialism was only about resource theft to enrich europeans. Yes that occurred but even if recompensated, this won't change the continent dilemma of failed or unproductive nations. As I stand before the AU, my speech would be the following, carefully crafted to the continent. I will be naturally booed for not preaching the 'woke' narrative on colonialism, I will be shunned and called all sorts of names such as 'house negro, asslicker, field negro'. I am prepared to shoulder those insults becuz what I propose will solve the continent issue and usher in a period of growth.

The colonial period was a short period of time on the continent, they saw us all the same, even though we see each other as foreign, they didn't understand local dynamics of the continent, they wanted to export their highly centralized govt system culture or they picked 'favorites' inside nations or even across nations, but this was the world conditions at their time.

They slapped us with a national name and border and said good luck even though we never were nations with a shared national identity. We have pre-existing identities such as tribes and clan and those loyalties will always supercede the fictional nation they created post world war 2. Imagine for a moment Genghis Khan was the world power and carved europe how he sees them without any knowledge of local dynamics and then said good luck. How would these nation fare on the global stage? it would be a disastrous outcome.

African leaders don't look hypocritical when ur leaders emulate colonial systems and colonial culture in your governance yet you want to tell europeans how bad they were? why doesn't the continent realize where the real problem lies our 'fake nations not rooted in any history'. The solution to the continent is simple solution below.

The international order is a 'rules' based one to eliminate different statuses for members or global chaos. The rules defines the club. The U.N is an international rules based order. The general assembly needs to have 'two chambers' one for nations and one for a tribal council. The definition for 'tribe' will need to include universal rules such as a defined geographic territory similar to nations, a historical and ongoing social group, a recognized elder or monarch authority, etc. Each will have a UN vote and enjoy similar nation state rights and of course responsibility.

The world doesn't need to be worried of a global upheavel or radical change not done slowly(federation, confederation, etc) as long as it's rules based. The colonial powers shouldn't assume past mistakes made will lead to revenge or persecution but what aggravates resentment and lack of cooperatin are mistakes that are not rectified especially when solutions are presented to address the real challenges facing colonial inherited countries while respecting the global order structure.

The greatest aspirations of people is self rule and independence to decide and determine it's own destiny. The greatest mistake isn't colonialism but the left over inheritance of carving a nation with peoples who never shared a national identity. The global order will remain intact only the general assembly will be tweaked to account for on-ground realities of the world. The general assembly/tribal councils will always be 'pawns' and security council will be global arms manufacturer and veto nations post world war 2 will be veto nations.
 

Yonis

Puntland Youth Organiser
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Salaam ditoore, your posts are always insightful, but to make it better, you should bring back your vodcast
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
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@Yonis If Africa is to rise into an industrial economy(high production and mass consumption) away from it's primitive(low production and low consumption) which is what '3rd world' or 'developing' means, the structural realities i presented need to be presented to the world.

We must remind colonials the biggest mistake they did wasn't resource theft but leaving us in fictional nations they created which we do not identify with. We need to tell the world our identities not others telling us. This will lead to the continent migrating to industrialization away from nations that r primitive cause noone is loyal to any nation in africa but their pre-existin identities.
 

DR OSMAN

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@Somali Ugaas we are 3rd world or developing or whatever pansy name u want to put on it. The fact is were not industrial economies(mass production, mass consumption, mass waste), my suburb of 1000 people produce/consume more then a whole nation in Somalia, u can measure even our 'waste' each year as we roll our bins, it wud be the equivalent of all somalia waste due to lack of industrial scale production/consumption.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
@Somali Ugaas we need to provide assurances to our policies/economic structure is sound and sustainable. Sustainablity is a must like aborigines sustained themselves for 65000 years, while Modern Australia may last 200 years at the rate of our sustainability policy.

We must craft how our economic model will ensure growth while fostering sustainability and not disturb the world in running out of resources and providing investors confidence to invest and expand market share. Some of these models will need to account for population curbing mechanism like china did, iskuma helayno landheere and high consumption and emptying the world of resources, if we want to be landheere first then we will remain where we are economically to ensure low consumption pool.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
@Somali Ugaas we can study the GULF to see how they 'control' their wealth going to 'few elites/families' while the rest are on 'survival' payments only lol, we must look at china 1 child policy, we must study rwanda also, we must gather as many models and contribute our own ideas how to bring industrialization while sustainable so other countries do not run dry of resources.
 

Somali Saayid

Ninkii dhoof ku yimid beey geeridu dhibeysaa
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@Somali Ugaas we can study the GULF to see how they 'control' their wealth going to 'few elites/families' while the rest are on 'survival' payments only lol, we must look at china 1 child policy, we must study rwanda also, we must gather as many models and contribute our own ideas how to bring industrialization while sustainable so other countries do not run dry of resources.
This is a very large undertaking and it would take minimum year of research to, fact find, establish and implement these systems. With what resources and power will you do that?
 

GemState

36/21
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@Somali Ugaas we can study the GULF to see how they 'control' their wealth going to 'few elites/families' while the rest are on 'survival' payments only lol, we must look at china 1 child policy, we must study rwanda also, we must gather as many models and contribute our own ideas how to bring industrialization while sustainable so other countries do not run dry of resources.
Industrialization takes a lot of prerequisites, people point to Japan for instance but Japan didn't really start from zero, they had a lot of domestic industries and their industrial development was at an early Renaissance level, which is just short of the industrial age. Japan for instance had their own domestic firearms, industrial metalworking and etc, they only didn't have guns because laws prohibited them to protect the rights and social role of the Samurai.

Somali's didn't have hundreds of years of early industry, and were still importing guns and steel in the 19th century and had no domestic industries that could be leveraged into entering the industrial age.

Industrialization is overall, always a bloody and a disgusting process, and nations which refuse to go through that, ultimately become India. Which is where Africa will likely head in the future. Industrialization in nearly all countries, worsened health, and wages did not increase at all for decades. Nobody would tolerate this slavery, and that is why blood was needed. Industrial development only gives back to workers after decades, and workers and peasants will constantly revolt, as in Japan and Korea until there is development.

Freedom is incompatible with Industrialization, you either need to brutalize your own people (USSR, China) or have colonies to brutalize and help you subsidize your own process (Japan, UK).


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GemState

36/21
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Another thing is, State capacity (the ability to formulate public policies and accomplish policy goals) has been a crucial element of all successful development experiences. State capacity in most African countries has been continuously eroded since the 1980s, especially due to external economic and political pressures to undertake damaging austerity measures and to the negative impacts of some ways of delivering official development assistance.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
We choose the wrong colonial power in the wake of the world war. Short termist thinking lead to their never being a unified Somali state with all regions under a British protectorate
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
We choose the wrong colonial power in the wake of the world war. Short termist thinking lead to their never being a unified Somali state with all regions under a British protectorate

Colonials help speed us up in terms social-infrastructure-economic development but was it worth inheriting it's govt system-govt culture and it's highly centralized copy of it's own homeland system. They didn't take local dynamics into consideration, worst part is what they left behind the nations we see in africa today even tho each of those nations r loyal to their own pre-existing identities before the fictional nation carved 4 them.

Jussts Imagine Genghis khan went to europe and carved it how he saw fit and put different social groups into 1 nation and kept repeating that across the continent and said good luck. The biggest mistake is not fixing past mistake that creates resentment and lack of cooperation, where-as europeans think admitting mistake is weakness or it opens them up to persecution or revenge which we must tell them it's water under a bridge once the mistakes are actually fixed which if it isn't only fuels resentment plus creates a fictional world that doesnt even exist on the ground.
 

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