@ dr osman come here

[galhareeri]

Mursade for the most part don’t like HSM because they think he doesn’t like them. They think he has cuqdad against them because Mursade killed his grandad. They are the ones who gave him the nickname Hassan garguute because his dad was a limping macalin dugsi

Bro nah it has nothing to do with that . Hsm is just unpopular man his politics is not apealing at all to us that is why we dont suport him

 

[Bari🐍]

@calasowcalasowcalasow@gma if you want to politically destroy Hiraab, it is only possible with the backing of PL. You must start there first. PL will only ever support federalism, not this centralist nonsense the current government pushing.

 

[GaradShabeel]

Bro nah it has nothing to do with that . Hsm is just unpopular man his politics is not apealing at all to us that is why we dont suport him

What if he get a second term? It’s not unlikely. You better make up with Hiiraab politically since you also have to deal with them in Galmudug now that AS will be removed

 

[Bari🐍]

What if he get a second term? It’s not unlikely

He has no real allies, everything is shaky. He is finished after this term.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@calasowcalasowcalasow@gma if you want to politically destroy Hiraab, it is only possible with the backing of PL. You must start there first. PL will only ever support federalism, not this centralist nonsense the current government pushing.

@bidenkulaha

Lol war hawshi yareed loo dhibay bay masuq, isbaaro, nepotism, isdabamarin, iyo talo abuse ku samaynayan and then arguing we need more powers and centralization kkkkk caqli hiraab, this only support PL loose federation model to counter that historically and today any duties delegated to the SFG leads to mis-use and power abuses.

 

[galhareeri]

@calasowcalasowcalasow@gma if you want to politically destroy Hiraab, it is only possible with the backing of PL. You must start there first. PL will only ever support federalism, not this centralist nonsense the current government pushing.

Bro we murusades that aren very pro federalsi since we are native to banadir lower shabele and galgaduud and we are near to xamar we want more central power.
But remeber centralisation deiffers. We support more like parliamntry system where powere is not in the hand of the president also we want non political instituition like militry police jucial to be independent away from office of the president so as not not to have dictator.
So it depends man

 

[geeljre49]

@calasowcalasowcalasow@gma if you want to politically destroy Hiraab, it is only possible with the backing of PL. You must start there first. PL will only ever support federalism, not this centralist nonsense the current government pushing.

That alliance won’t work. Mursade are a centralist clan. Most of their interests are based in xamar today

 

[galhareeri]

That alliance won’t work. Mursade are a centralist clan. Most of their interests are based in xamar today

Bro yes i hope u saw my previous comment on this

 

[galhareeri]

Bro yes i hope u saw my previous comment on this

@Themusketeer .
Are u hg

 

[geeljre49]

@Themusketeer .
Are u hg

Nah I’m abgaal

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bro we murusades that aren very pro federalsi since we are native to banadir lower shabele and galgaduud and we are near to xamar we want more central power.
But remeber centralisation deiffers. We support more like parliamntry system where powere is not in the hand of the president also we want non political instituition like militry police jucial to be independent away from office of the president so as not not to have dictator.
So it depends man

@Bari🐍 @bidenkulaha

There is horizonal and vertical federation models according to Gaas and his speeches. Horizonaal means separation of govt, courts, parliament while vertical means local-regional-federal devolution. We also should add ISIMO layer like constitutional monarchies do like Australia-Canada where they have reserve powers in the event of national emergency and political deadlock but no powers over day to day matters in govt, courts, parliament.

 

[Bari🐍]

Bro we murusades that aren very pro federalsi since we are native to banadir lower shabele and galgaduud and we are near to xamar we want more central power.
But remeber centralisation deiffers. We support more like parliamntry system where powere is not in the hand of the president also we want non political instituition like militry police jucial to be independent away from office of the president so as not not to have dictator.
So it depends man

Ask yourself why should a government in Xamar dictate PL education, courts, healthcare, security, etc. Maybe this makes sense for weaker states, but for a place like PL which has managed for over 25 years on its own, it's ridiculous to think we will give away our self governing powers.

 

[galhareeri]

Ask yourself why should a government in Xamar dictate PL education, courts, healthcare, security, etc. Maybe this makes sense for weaker states, but for a place like PL which has managed for over 25 years on its own, it's ridiculous to think we will give away our self governing powers.

Bronits ok we can have hybrid system . Puntland can have more fedralism the rest of central and south can have more centralised system its not black and white trust we murusade wont mind that.
We only talking the region we live in man

 

[galhareeri]

Bronits ok we can have hybrid system . Puntland can have more fedralism the rest of central and south can have more centralised system its not black and white trust we murusade wont mind that.
We only talking the region we live in man

@Step a side .
Do u understand what i write .
I do it fast man than make lots of keyboard errors

 

[Step a side]

@Step a side .
Do u understand what i write .
I do it fast man than make lots of keyboard errors

Yes we can understand everything brother. I enjoy reading your posts. You have good general knowledge regarding Somalia.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@calasowcalasowcalasow@gma im worried for murusade future. Karanle being pushed out by oromo and u losing second homeland in the event of a unforeseeable disaster in hamar like 91. Your also neglecting ceelbur another homeland. Ur promoting putting murusade future in 1 area, which I strongly disagree with as short sighted and u need to keep ur eggs separated

 

[Step a side]

Also bro their sub clan of sheekhal called jazeera .
Have u heard of them who are they.
They somehow look bajuuni to me

They are gibil cad. There's three of those clans; Sheekhaal Jaziira, Sheekhaal Gandarshe and Sheekhaal aw cusmaan

 

[galhareeri]

@calasowcalasowcalasow@gma im worried for murusade future. Karanle being pushed out by oromo and u losing second homeland in the event of a unforeseeable disaster in hamar like 91. Your also neglecting ceelbur another homeland. Ur promoting putting murusade future in 1 area, which I strongly disagree with as short sighted and u need to keep ur eggs separated

Bro maybe around 20 years give it . Than u will see change becos young generation now it will take time before they are in leadership position . The leadership we have now is mess. It will take time for change

 

[galhareeri]

They are gibil cad. There's three of those clans; Sheekhaal Jaziira, Sheekhaal Gandarshe and Sheekhaal aw cusmaan

Luuqa sogal waxaan kuweydiin

They are gibil cad. There's three of those clans; Sheekhaal Jaziira, Sheekhaal Gandarshe and Sheekhaal aw cusmaan

Bro come to my private chat i want to ask sth

 

[Step a side]

Luuqa sogal waxaan kuweydiin
Bro come to my private chat i want to ask sth

I don’t think you have the ability to send private messages yet. Does anyone know how long it takes to get that feature enabled?