Somaliland doesnt understand that they need to have good relationship with its neighbor, its simply in their interest.
SL trades with PL in many ways and SL risks disrupting that trade.
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Somaliland doesnt understand that they need to have good relationship with its neighbor, its simply in their interest.
SL trades with PL in many ways and SL risks disrupting that trade.
I think it boils down puntlanders saying are we gonna fight over a frickin desert when the spoils are in the capital and thats the real threat as he can impact us on anything no trade, no this and that as their the legal govt somaliland aint. Its pointless exercise to puntland there but if its ppl is pressuring it and their starting to see threats that may destabilize for good if those SL sit outside garowe with galmudug in galkayo a two direction war will kill puntland so they gotta get serious to stop that scenario
Cant u see somaliland is trying sandwich puntland from garowe and galmudug has galkayo south. A simple agreement which they always had IRIR pact those two clans is devastating to us and could pressure to give up our interests in the nation for safety we dont wanna live like that and need to stop it before it gets there. They really need to push them to burco or else if they watch this were setting for a bad scenario.
U cant have garowe ppl a sub clan fighting one angle then sub clan of majerten fighting in galkayo with united galmudug with alot of hawiye clans. Please dude be reasonable. They divided us now u see and we cant unite as we got bullets flying from each angle and once divided we screwed they have the advantage as their united into a strong bloc on both sides. PL is stupid to watch this shit happen. READ HISTORY also remember sayidka mad mullah what did he do, he just brought those ssc folks to slaughter puntland and those isaaq will do the same while galmudug folks fire at galkayo. No thank you or else its sign this and that and die away from somalia into irrelevancy.
Puntland has to make it's move now, not wait anymore because once it's done and they are there it's gonna be far harder and probably impossible to change it. They should've seen this comin i'ts the encroach strategy. Take one or two towns a year and then say HEY PUNTLAND LETS NOT FIGHT WE WANT PEACE and then rinse and repeat for 20 years you got 20 fuckin towns bro
Cant u see somaliland is trying sandwich puntland from garowe and galmudug has galkayo south. A simple agreement which they always had IRIR pact those two clans is devastating to us and could pressure to give up our interests in the nation for safety we dont wanna live like that and need to stop it before it gets there. They really need to push them to burco or else if they watch this were setting for a bad scenario.
U cant have garowe ppl a sub clan fighting one angle then sub clan of majerten fighting in galkayo with united galmudug with alot of hawiye clans. Please dude be reasonable. They divided us now u see and we cant unite as we got bullets flying from each angle and once divided we screwed they have the advantage as their united into a strong bloc on both sides. PL is stupid to watch this shit happen. READ HISTORY also remember sayidka mad mullah what did he do, he just brought those ssc folks to slaughter puntland and those isaaq will do the same while galmudug folks fire at galkayo. No thank you or else its sign this and that and die away from somalia into irrelevancy.
Puntland has to make it's move now, not wait anymore because once it's done and they are there it's gonna be far harder and probably impossible to change it. They should've seen this comin i'ts the encroach strategy. Take one or two towns a year and then say HEY PUNTLAND LETS NOT FIGHT WE WANT PEACE and then rinse and repeat for 20 years you got 20 fuckin towns bro
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Puntland in a geopolitical point of view is like the NATO encroaching on russia, it's exactly the same at a local context NATO is SL/GM having pact while we are sandwiched inside and divided in two ways garowe and galkayo and both cant help each other when bullets start firing at the same time from both side in a coordinated manner and the other option is be held HOSTAGE and we dont want that. Plus we know history with mullah what he did when he had SSC under his control he just used them to slaughter us so we want them under our wing cause we dont wanna start wars and never have with any tribe EVER.
Ive heard lots of people moved from Galkacyo to Garowe because of Galmudug conflict. I really dont know what the hawiye want since they keep killing on our side. Do they want an all out were everyone dies and no one is left?
Dude puntland has no advantage in this civil war scenario we just lost millions of properties and farms in the capital and south, I cant imagine the benefit to keep the war up on the darod side. I can see the benefit in mogadishu for business men who dont wanna see single competitor take them out especially foreign or diaspora with better skills and know how and money. I wouldnt want that and would pay shabab off so I assume they would to and they actually do give em money looooooool but they claim their getting text message of terror to pay up AHHHHH BULLSHIT your in your clan area noone is touching ya but i bet they set it up like that so no red lights go off why their paying shabab just use we r being threatened BULLSHIT they create that scenario with shabab because they have mutual interest, shabab idealogy of MB violent wing hey go pound the govt, and business men keep it a war zone so no one ever bothers coming here threatening us.
Always Habar gedir. They started the warlord shit too now its islamist and god knows whats next in line. None of this get created in the region, it only spreads there as more politicians seek to get a slice of their interests done but when u pinpoint the origin points of all the civil war it always has its start in mogadishu right next to those HG boys in bakaraha. Now you got these foreign f*ck wits involved which complicates it further which is good for bakara market boys the more layers of complexity the harder to RESOLVE or even know where to start. They didnt create the geopolitical environment but they sure loved when it came to their door step.
Always Habar gedir. They started the warlord shit too now its islamist and god knows whats next in line. None of this get created in the region, it only spreads there as more politicians seek to get a slice of their interests done but when u pinpoint the origin points of all the civil war it always has its start in mogadishu right next to those HG boys in bakaraha. Now you got these foreign f*ck wits involved which complicates it further which is good for bakara market boys the more layers of complexity the harder to RESOLVE or even know where to start. They didnt create the geopolitical environment but they sure loved when it came to their door step.
Darod have one problem from what I seen. Property matter and that is a threat to hawiye cause that shit has gone thru like 5 different people hands in sales since the 90s, who u gonna take property off? someone who bought it legally? u see the mess? then you got all the mistrust happening at the clan level due to the civil war then u got opportunistic politicians taking advantage of that so they reach their financial or political goals for their tribes, then u got bakaraha market boys funnelling cash to shabab as tax with a wink wink keep it up and then qatar and turkey boosting up the MB political parties which farmajo is and got funded for his election and u got the mb violent wing pounding the govt. All the terrorists when they retire go str8 to qatar, all hawiye go to egypt like abdiqasim and hassan sheikh str8 to turkey.
Hawiye are massive BROTHERHOOD followers but in political scene and parties and their is heaps al-itihaad-, al islah, al-itisam, it dont end that group in somalia. They have a huge STRONG hold in bosaso also I wont lie to you, cause in 93 dahir aways guy who is on american terror list as u know sxb he attacked galala and bosaso using the religion card but he was working with aideed saying u fight on the tribe side and ill use the religion side to divide these pricks up. He got there though and abdillahi yusuf got rid of him thru a war and said all the locals who tribal in this area can stay but all non locals get the f*ck out cause he knew what the hawiye were up too.
So wat happened according to what I heard is abdillahi yusuf cut a deal u take the port, telecoms, banks, businesses, universities u know the economic lifelines but STAY THE f*ck OUT OF POLITICS and it has worked to be quite honest and why I want to negiotate with them. They changed bosaso alot though have u seen the burqas and shit and its so religious as they do MB strategy but they NEVER RULE in politics they will try running though like that fuckwit who was apart of alitihaad ali haji warsame he is one of them but their all solid UAE boys in puntland sxb abdillahi yusuf retired in yemen, hospital dubai, lol adde mussa same scorin uae deals for port, farole scored pirate force from dubai, they dont like QATAR i dont know why at all is it cause hawiye is sided with them cause only guy who wasnt MB from hawiye was SHARIF and his ass is in uganda now lol they wont got to MB countries if u reject their POLITICS why would those guys host you lol
Notice how MB humanitarian boy turkey wont even build a hospital in PL? why build a hospital in an area that is not actively adopting your idealogy? you gonna make him look good while he opposing your idealogy? looooooooool. They aint ever coming to PL lets be real. Nor SL. Their staying right there in mogadishu where MB is in power. They know MB owns us in business cuz hawiye would've told them and said bosaso is all brotherhood businesses but these guys are different fuckin cats they want the politics also while the brotherhood in puntland and govt have ancient deal noone touches like we have an ancient deal with galkayo from 93, noone f*ck around sxb there in PL. They stick to what they sign.
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I respect the Isaaq for making a stable region for themselves, and they dont attack us even though they have good reasons to hate us.
The hawiye is a bloodthirsty beast. Its very difficult to love him.
Morgan guy is being sent by Qatar and Federal govt, line up the regions as MB basically lol then turkey will come and start building hospitals. Their not good people turkey, somalis are fooled by them, they only build those aligned to that IDEALOGY but at POLITICAL level which is stupid, why cant they just accept foreign policy level and leave the internal stuff alone since thats what the caliphate is about is going to the west. Screw them u cant deal with these type of MB but our own MB we got the clan favor working even though separate idealogy and say lets not kill ourselves, we already poor and suffering why make it worse
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Securing the food supply in all conditions is, IMO, one of the chief responsibilities of a national government. A government that can't make sure. as long as trump does that im good
You are right about hawiye they dont have the same mentality as puntland, where we say listen the situation is bad look around u are u saying u wanna destroy the little we have. Where-as that attitude dont seem to be there in mogadishu judging by their behavior over the years.
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Hawiye can easily secure their city themselves bro and unite for the common cause of their safety but they wont cause tribal passions matter more then the safety of their city and the little they have. PL would never allow that shit to fly. But that dont mean puntland is less tribal, all somalis are tribal its just some dont make their situation worse by killing themselves and others do. Darod Isaq and Hawiye are all tribal bro, all have tribal passions, egos, personal interests, agendas, u name it their pretty similar there. But the only thing that separates them is some dont wanna kill themselves over it and others do.
I know Puntland I watched their tactics. If things dont go their way or how they like they will just pull out its been consistent tactic but not send soldiers, shabab, assasinations or war. They wont fight iyagu lol, they just leave because they know they dont wanna destroy the little they have but at the same their not happy with the outcome of whatever it is their disputing. Isaaq will FIGHT and Hawiye will. You give isaaq too much credit bro.
Dhimashada lagama soo noqdo ma garatay? you dont come back from that everything else u have hope things change but death there is no hope, its over. The furthest I SEEN puntland go is get hawiye stooge to support them, that's it. But if you come for their territories THEY WILL FIGHT cause its choosing between BAD N WORSE situation then. Somalis think by attacking them it will change their positions because they know they dont like fighting but it never has changed their position in the past i cant see why their gonna change now.
Dhimashada lagama soo noqdo ma garatay? you dont come back from that everything else u have hope things change but death there is no hope, its over. The furthest I SEEN puntland go is get hawiye stooge to support them, that's it. But if you come for their territories THEY WILL FIGHT cause its choosing between BAD N WORSE situation then. Somalis think by attacking them it will change their positions because they know they dont like fighting but it never has changed their position in the past i cant see why their gonna change now.
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The main catalyst for the isaac's thriving was the fact that they had a expendable amount of men in our struggle against the somali GOVT by the way these men fought well however only the intelligent survived against at the time africa's strongest military or one of it's debatable alot Isaac's felt hatred and ostracised by the community so they turned in on themselves and centralised instead of seeing fellow somali's as brothers they saw them as ''Southerners or Mogadishu'' it was like a slur in isolation they tried as hard as they could to stabilise the region whilst staying out of somali politics
In all honesty to see the brotherhood in action is scary because somalia is a good example how it changed the whole nation from the way they were till when they walked into the 80s and how they did and where they dominate, it shows their tactics and u compare if they do the same elsewhere and u got a good idea what they got in plan for the world.
Can u imagine harvard investors MB? pump up politicians they poison!!!! lol. Banks and Telecoms in america or the key lifelines cause that's all going after with all those 57 nations of islam united as a backdrop plus each of those nations will have ties with some other world power which is leverage whatever that tie maybe. Wallahi this is one I didnt see AT ALLLLLLLLLL which is scary thing because if a terrorist organization operates like that, can u imagine what world powers are doing?
They got the little mosques and madrassahs happening as children, high school, then shift to uni where they grab them lol and those then start becoming politicians when 50 lol and form al islah parties. Start fighting for govt rule, foreign powers if involved its always one of those states of MB as they see one of their own in the seat which means what they need done in the nation or outside is secured. In all honesty the situation is very grim in somalia untill they just agree no foreign interference and we sit down shared values that supercedes any difference and stiff laws for anyone who betrays them seen as treason and exile or life imprisonment etc.
Can u imagine harvard investors MB? pump up politicians they poison!!!! lol. Banks and Telecoms in america or the key lifelines cause that's all going after with all those 57 nations of islam united as a backdrop plus each of those nations will have ties with some other world power which is leverage whatever that tie maybe. Wallahi this is one I didnt see AT ALLLLLLLLLL which is scary thing because if a terrorist organization operates like that, can u imagine what world powers are doing?
They got the little mosques and madrassahs happening as children, high school, then shift to uni where they grab them lol and those then start becoming politicians when 50 lol and form al islah parties. Start fighting for govt rule, foreign powers if involved its always one of those states of MB as they see one of their own in the seat which means what they need done in the nation or outside is secured. In all honesty the situation is very grim in somalia untill they just agree no foreign interference and we sit down shared values that supercedes any difference and stiff laws for anyone who betrays them seen as treason and exile or life imprisonment etc.
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