T1a is all over the horn and East Africa. I find it hard to believe that it is due Semitic migrations. But if we are all making claims, I prefer to think of it as a mesopotamian haplogroup. WE WuZ ElAmITEs anD BabylOnianz!
Different strand of T1a is all over the Horn. The Dir version is Arabian.T1a is all over the horn and East Africa. I find it hard to believe that it is due Semitic migrations. But if we are all making claims, I prefer to think of it as a mesopotamian haplogroup. WE WuZ ElAmITEs anD BabylOnianz!
^ Dead wrong, as usual.My theory is that they came from both directions.
I think the Dir T1a came from the Levant through Gaza, settling in the Red Sea hills 6-8 Kya and then moving south before the rise of Auxum.
V32 comes up the Nile tributaries from the Cushite lands in the Sudan, under pressure from various invaders, and crosses the southern Ethiopian highlands. The proto-Doi develop in the Dawa basin, then move into the interriverine area before moving to the Lower Shabelli where they divide into the Maay and Maxa groups. Maxa acquires camels in the 5th century and moves north, joining T1a and others to form the northern clans in the 12th-13th centuries. They then begin southern migrations to make use of the southern camel lands. The Rahanweyn develop in the Genale watershed and move into the interriverine area after the proto-Doi.
Busy now. Will get back to some of this later.^ Dead wrong, as usual.
Somalis have the lowest autosomal affinity with the ancient Mota sample from Southern Ethiopia who represents the native genetics of Ethiopia. Even Amharas have more of an affinity with it than ethnic Somalis. Somalis have absolutely nothing to do with Southern Ethiopia at all. Even a quick glance at how Southern Ethiopians (including Oromos) and Somalis look like can obviously tell you there is an ethnic difference. Proto-Somalis entered Somalia via the Red Sea region. The only Ethiopian populations remotely close to Somalis are Eastern Oromos and Afars, not Southwest Ethiopians at all.
As for T1a, first of all, the Dir are not genetically distinct from other Somalis besides their paternal lineage. They are not ethnically or racially different like you are trying to make it out to be. Secondly, the Somali T clade is significantly younger and substantially less diverse than Somali E-Y18629 carriers (the Somali V32 sub-clade) which is twice its age and much older and more established in Somalia. It is scientifically IMPOSSIBLE that Somali Ts preceded Somali V32 carriers, old fool. The more parsimonious explanation is simply a paternal bottleneck that took off in the Dir population and it does not represent anything ethnic (not signs of a different population).
You are a clown, whatever you say will be just more garbage. Your one and only motive for this retarded theory (with no scientific evidence behind it) is to create further division between Somalis as usual.Busy now. Will get back to some of this later.
Don't forget the HG languages!
You are a clown, whatever you say will be just more garbage. Your one and only motive for this retarded theory (with no scientific evidence behind it) is to create further division between Somalis as usual.
You are a bad faith debater.
Good to see you coming around. I believe the rest will follow. A northern ethnogenesis would have produced Northern Cushites.Bringing up recent civilizations like Kush/Meroë when talking about prehistoric haplogroups is utterly ridiculous. Most of this stuff is Neolithic or Mesolithic (pre-civilization). The proto-Cushite movements into the Horn predated the Kush empire. At best there may be a tie with the Punt civilization and proto-Somalis, but most definitely not the relatively recent Kush civilization.
Proto-Somalis did not enter through highland Ethiopia (Central/South Ethiopia). All the autosomal data suggest an entrance through the northern Horn lowlands over three thousand years ago.
As for the Southern SOMALIA (cough, *not* Ethiopia) proto-Somali ethnogenesis theory, I already agree on that.