Do you believe pastoralism is harmful to the environment?

Do you see it as something harmful to the environment?


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Ras

It's all so tiresome
VIP
It's bad on so many levels.

  1. We suck out all the ground water for mainly livestock. This creates massive deforestation and kills the soil.
  2. The carrying capacity of available pasture has long been exceeded. Way to many livestock compared to the available feed. This again fucks up the soil because we're not longer following the natural cycle.
However imo the biggest crime here is the opportunity costs.

These pastorialist could be contributing to the formal economy if they didn't limit themselves to living band to mouth.

A nomad gets his water from the ground, meat & milm from his livestock and clothes and essentials from bartering.

The millions of livestock sold every year barely gets them any money. Most goes to middle men and feed lots.

Their kids don't get exposed to the wider world and due to no choice of their own get sentenced to a life of hardship and limited potential.

How many potential Nobel laureates or Field medalist are currently chasing after sheep now?

The reason why our GDP per capita is $600-800 is because our pastorialist barely generate $50 a year in the economy and live mostly off the land.

If we moved them to the town and cities our GDP per capita would quickly jump up to over $2,000 within a couple years and inshallah a lot higher before the decade's end.
 

land owner

Welcome to the yaab zone
VIP
It's bad on so many levels.

  1. We suck out all the ground water for mainly livestock. This creates massive deforestation and kills the soil.
  2. The carrying capacity of available pasture has long been exceeded. Way to many livestock compared to the available feed. This again fucks up the soil because we're not longer following the natural cycle.
However imo the biggest crime here is the opportunity costs.

These pastorialist could be contributing to the formal economy if they didn't limit themselves to living band to mouth.

A nomad gets his water from the ground, meat & milm from his livestock and clothes and essentials from bartering.

The millions of livestock sold every year barely gets them any money. Most goes to middle men and feed lots.

Their kids don't get exposed to the wider world and due to no choice of their own get sentenced to a life of hardship and limited potential.

How many potential Nobel laureates or Field medalist are currently chasing after sheep now?

The reason why our GDP per capita is $600-800 is because our pastorialist barely generate $50 a year in the economy and live mostly off the land.

If we moved them to the town and cities our GDP per capita would quickly jump up to over $2,000 within a couple years and inshallah a lot higher before the decade's end.
Well said sxb
 

land owner

Welcome to the yaab zone
VIP
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90% of Somali pastoralists make a fence for the animals and home ripping and snapping all close shrubs and trees for something temporary 3-6 months later making another one or when they move. All tools containers and instruments sometimes even the homes they use are made of hard wood and they require fire to stay warm, safe and eat every day 365. Camels and Cattle make a path of destruction everywhere they go by clearing (sometimes by the herder themselves) or by their tracks deforesting and degrading the soil when or IF THE RAIN COMES cause their aint no fkn evaporation cause all the trees are gone. Air is fucked from all their dung is everywhere. It's fucked unsustainable and impractical in all aspects of life. This was an environmental question not an economical one but I'm itching to vent and make dot points like the brudda @Ras and If I'm not mistaken, camels are not native to Somalia. Pastoralist culture done enough damage to East Africa it just takes 2 braincells like the aussies to cull them when they are visibly damaging the ecosystem, It's even affecting us forget about the insects, birds wild animals etc...
 
THEN THESE BACKWARD "SHEIKHS" THINK ROOBDOON IS GOING TO HELP MAKING KIDS WALK IN THE HEAT FOR HOURS WITH A PLANK ON THEIR BACKS READING QURAN. f*ck
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