No u guys blame colonialism for everything
Do you believe in Somali unity?
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Woke1.4rm.Shibis
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I dont blame the colonials , but stated the fact on which ppl came up with somali unity . If colonials havent colonized somalia we would've been mini states .
the whole world would be mini states going by your logic
I believe in Somalinimo for the Somali people.
To the core. Beside we Somalis were literally united in that we all should be in one country. Every region had fought for that, from now dreamlanders to other wooqoyi galbeed unionist, all the way to nfd. There are still unionist in SL WS and nfd. We could make it happened, even SL wanted to negotiate with the south but made up their mind because some mooryaans got out of the hand in konfuur. If chaos didnāt happen down there we would have seen more sense of somaliweyn than now.
NordicSomali
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the country no, the people yes
Woke1.4rm.Shibis
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Yes mainly in africa as they were affected by colonialsim
Somaliweynist must move on .most of Kenyan somalis and djibiouti somalis dont want this unity and are happy in their respective countries heck even the northerners dont want to be part of a unity .
To think about a "Somali unity" when your house is a mess caqli lix sac way of thinking .
Somalis are separated by clans not country.
this predates the countries u named .
why are you delaying the response?
Iāve read your understandable point of view... but it seems to me you made some form of contradiction.
re-read what Iāve said to your responses.
Woke1.4rm.Shibis
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Yariisay i advice you to focus on finishing your schooling and helping your gobol first befor you get yourself into this backward somaliweynist way of thinking.
Lol listen Iām not even thinking of nation states , Somalis are attacking each other over sub clans.
Can we remove AMISOM from our soil, and get rid of AS, then achieve nationwide reconciliation then talk about Somali Unity?
Clllam
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People here are confusing what issues were facing Somalis in the past and those in the present.
Historically, Somalis identified with their Clan but there was always the idea that āweāre Somali peopleā. If they did unite, it was to face a common threat like the Ethiopians or early colonialism (Portugal etc).
By the 19th century, nationalism created Nations like Italy and Japan. Somalia is different from other sub Saharan African countries because itās the only ethnostate that can undergo a similar process . (See IM Lewis)
If any person actually believes that PL, SL, JL, SSW, GM, HS, Banadir, NFD, Ogaden, and the French Dependency of Djibouti can actually function alone without foreign intervention and Kenyan-Ethio puppetry isnāt connected with the real world.
The Idea of divide and conquer was utilised heavily by 19th century Colonialist and this ultimately created Somali Nationalism as a response. No longer do the times of Sultanates and Clan affiliation exist because they can easily be weakened when exploited by foreigners, who will use this simple technique for their own benefits.
Historically, Somalis identified with their Clan but there was always the idea that āweāre Somali peopleā. If they did unite, it was to face a common threat like the Ethiopians or early colonialism (Portugal etc).
By the 19th century, nationalism created Nations like Italy and Japan. Somalia is different from other sub Saharan African countries because itās the only ethnostate that can undergo a similar process . (See IM Lewis)
If any person actually believes that PL, SL, JL, SSW, GM, HS, Banadir, NFD, Ogaden, and the French Dependency of Djibouti can actually function alone without foreign intervention and Kenyan-Ethio puppetry isnāt connected with the real world.
The Idea of divide and conquer was utilised heavily by 19th century Colonialist and this ultimately created Somali Nationalism as a response. No longer do the times of Sultanates and Clan affiliation exist because they can easily be weakened when exploited by foreigners, who will use this simple technique for their own benefits.
it seems like youāre the only person whoās capable to answer,
since @Wir has wuss out.
Can you answer this Controversial question:
somalipatriot
Unfortunately, therefore lack of any wisdom
Thatās preposterous the sense of Somali unity goes back centuries before the arrival of the colonial Italians and british we had empires and yes these empires were known to have rich coastal cities defeated the portugese and colonialism happened all across the world but ended in the 1960s/1970s when they were granted independence
