Do Somali men expire for marriage as well?

[Keep it a boqol]

the age of expiration for both men and women are raised due to the economy increasing the average age of modern marriages imo.

 

[Gacmeey]

in our community our losers just end up becoming passport bros.

These are the dudes that don’t have a career in anything and sort of wasted their 20s. Their western dating options are horrible since they’re losers. Instead of trying to date these chicks they decide to start dating back home.

What about the successful passport bros or the normal passport bros? Or is only losers who become passport bros?

 

[Idilinaa]

What about the successful passport bros or the normal passport bros? Or is only losers who become passport bros?

There’s barely any “passport bros” among Somalis , it’s just some American nonsense trend ,an online subculture tied to American dating discourse. that he’s trying to lump Somalis into. Kisame genuinely thinks every Somali is a loser, and he projects that in every thread, even when it’s about American Somalis as a whole. Meanwhile, plenty of them are working diverse roles, running businesses, graduating, and moving into professional careers , he just refuses to acknowledge any of it.

He also pushes this idea that most are on food stamps, when in reality the majority (easily 80%+) don’t rely on government assistance at all.

Another thing he’s wrong about is thinking successful or educated Somalis never move back home. I’ve shown him multiple times that plenty of educated and successful Somalis from the West do go back to Somalia and naturally they end up marrying from there.

Just a few examples:

This guy who moved back and shares his experience:


Former scientist now living and documenting his life in Hargeisa::


I even shared that one in this thread, where he still tried to downplay him:

Faarax from UK moves to Hargeisa and says hes never going back

I looked at his page. He is very educated man with a degree in chemical engineering. He has a company on the side where tutors a lot of Somalis in various subjects, gives them career advice and tries to prepare them for university. I don't see whats to hate on from the video, he is sharing a...

www.somalispot.com

Tutoring was not his day job, and he runs an online teaching company with employee's, it was his side hustle.

He worked as a scientist as his day job. You are right he probably earned a lot


From number of threads i noticed that you really hate the idea of educated and successful Somalis returning back to their homeland.

Seethe some more.

Most people who relocate to Somalia (unless they were deported) do it for business or professional reasons because resettling and rebuilding a new life in another country requires a lot of resources. In a lot of cases they even move back to Africa to create self-employment opportunities for themselves.


Also, if we’re being real, most men in general don’t really get the ball rolling in life until their 30s. It’s common knowledge

Most younger guys in their 20s across the West waste that time, even the cadaans. They’re out partying, dating around, fornicating, traveling, piling up debt, and not really focused on building careers yet.

So if you’re in the same boat, don’t stress , just focus on improving and start planning for long term stability.

 

[Kisame]

What about the successful passport bros or the normal passport bros? Or is only losers who become passport bros?

“What about the successful passport bros”

I got an uncle and a cousin that fit the description Right after they finished college they married naag from back home. My mom and my grandma offered me the same thing after I graduated and I refused. Told them if I’m 35 and single I’ll consider the offer though.

I’ll be real as a kid I thought my uncle was a bit lame for doing this. He was raised here in America just like me but still decided to marry from back home. As I grew older I realized why he did it though and stopped considering him lame. He’s very introverted and pretty religious. Marrying from back home with the help of his parents would have been easier for him compared to dating around the halal way to find a wife. My cousin on the other hand almost married an Ajnabi. His mom said f*ck that and found him a chick from back home .


If most of the passport bros were successful college educated miskeens I wouldn’t be saying anything negative about them. Like I’ll know most of them will be financially stable and can provide a solid life for their fob wife and children. Like both my uncle and cousin are making 6 figures. They got cribs in the suburbs and are essentially living out the American dream. I got no reason to hate on that. My uncles oldest kids have turned out great too.


“the normal passport bros? Or is only losers who become passport bros?”

I personally believe Somali men like my uncle and cousin are small minority in the diaspora. Your average western college educated Farah is marrying a local westernized xalimo or an any other westernized Muslimah. They aren’t going back home to look for a partner.


Majority of the niggas preaching about how the best naag are the ones back home are straight up losers though. Just like most passport bros. It’s not the educated miskeens that are bragging about naag back home. It’s the warehouse workers, and niggas still doing security over the age of 25.

 

[Idilinaa]

“What about the successful passport bros”

I got an uncle and a cousin that fit the description Right after they finished college they married naag from back home. My mom and my grandma offered me the same thing after I graduated and I refused. Told them if I’m 35 and single I’ll consider the offer though.

I’ll be real as a kid I thought my uncle was a bit lame for doing this. He was raised here in America just like me but still decided to marry from back home. As I grew older I realized why he did it though and stopped considering him lame. He’s very introverted and pretty religious. Marrying from back home with the help of his parents would have been easier for him compared to dating around the halal way to find a wife. My cousin on the other hand almost married an Ajnabi. His mom said f*ck that and found him a chick from back home .


If most of the passport bros were successful college educated miskeens I wouldn’t be saying anything negative about them. Like I’ll know most of them will be financially stable and can provide a solid life for their fob wife and children. Like both my uncle and cousin are making 6 figures. They got cribs in the suburbs and are essentially living out the American dream. I got no reason to hate on that. My uncles oldest kids have turned out great too.


“the normal passport bros? Or is only losers who become passport bros?”

I personally believe Somali men like my uncle and cousin are small minority in the diaspora. Your average western college educated Farah is marrying a local westernized xalimo or an any other westernized Muslimah. They aren’t going back home to look for a partner.


Majority of the niggas preaching about how the best naag are the ones back home are straight up losers though. Just like most passport bros. It’s not the educated miskeens that are bragging about naag back home. It’s the warehouse workers, and niggas still doing security over the age of 25.

There’s barely any “passport bros” among Somalis , it’s just some American nonsense trend ,an online subculture tied to American dating discourse. that he’s trying to lump Somalis into.

Most Somalis who move back home aren’t doing it for dating/marriage reasons, and definitely not as part of this so-called “passport bro” trend. I can’t stress that enough.

There’s actual research on this that interviews returnees about their motives. For example:
“It Is Better to Do Business in Africa than in Europe: Socio-Economic Positionings among Business-Minded European Somalis Moving to Kenya”
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15562948.2020.1773009#d1e135


What it shows is that people who move back to Somalia (or Africa in general) are usually doing it because they see economic opportunities, want to invest, or have the education and resources to rebuild their lives there. It’s rarely something random or out of desperation.


Framing it like it’s mostly guys going back just to find wives is misleading and it risks unfairly stigmatizing Somalis who want to move back to build something meaningful.

 

[Kisame]

There’s barely any “passport bros” among Somalis , it’s just some American gaalo nonsense trend ,an online subculture tied to American dating discourse. that he’s trying to lump Somalis into. Kisame genuinely thinks every Somali is a loser, and he projects that in every thread, even when it’s about American Somalis as a whole. Meanwhile, plenty of them are working diverse roles, running businesses, graduating, and moving into professional careers , he just refuses to acknowledge any of it.

He also pushes this idea that most are on food stamps, when in reality the majority (easily 80%+) don’t rely on government assistance at all.

Another thing he’s wrong about is thinking successful or educated Somalis never move back home. I’ve shown him multiple times that plenty of educated and successful Somalis from the West do go back to Somalia and naturally they end up marrying from there.

Just a few examples:

This guy who moved back and shares his experience:


Former scientist now living and documenting his life in Hargeisa::

I even shared that one in this thread, where he still tried to downplay him:

Faarax from UK moves to Hargeisa and says hes never going back

I looked at his page. He is very educated man with a degree in chemical engineering. He has a company on the side where tutors a lot of Somalis in various subjects, gives them career advice and tries to prepare them for university. I don't see whats to hate on from the video, he is sharing a...

www.somalispot.com

Most people who relocate to Somalia (unless they were deported) do it for business or professional reasons because resettling and rebuilding a new life in another country requires a lot of resources. In a lot of cases they even move back to Africa to create self-employment opportunities for themselves.


Also, if we’re being real, most men in general don’t really get the ball rolling in life until their 30s. It’s common knowledge

Most younger guys in their 20s across the West waste that time, even the cadaans. They’re out partying, dating around, fornicating, traveling, piling up debt, and not really focused on building careers yet.
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So if you’re in the same boat, don’t stress , just focus on improving.

you do realize westernized Somali men that marry back home are still considered passport bros right???

“Kisame genuinely thinks every Somali is a loser, and he projects that in every thread, even when it’s about American Somalis as a whole. “

Why would I think this? I’ve very aware of the amount of successful Somalis within our community here in America. I grew up with positive Somali male role models and followed in their footsteps.

“He also pushes this idea that most are on food stamps,”

nigga I had food stamps and so did most of the somalis I grew up around. I didn’t consider that a diss at all. Most poor immigrant families can qualify for food stamps. Theirs literally nothing wrong with using it. Millions of low income people nationwide use food stamps.

“Another thing he’s wrong about is thinking successful or educated Somalis never move back home.”

My main point was that most of our educated diaspora won’t be moving back anytime soon. This is a common thing for every immigrant group here in America. Now in 20-40 years from now I definitely expect to see a bunch of retired engineers and doctors moving back to Somalia to help.


“Former scientist now living and documenting his life in Hargeisa”

Bruh this nigga gave up a whole career in chemical engineering just to become a tutor Imma always consider that crazy.

 

[Idilinaa]

you do realize westernized Somali men that marry back home are still considered passport bros right???

Nah, that’s just a lazy way of lumping everything together.

“Passport bros” are specifically dudes (mostly Black Americans) who fly out to random countries ''with no personal ties'' just to chase women because they’ve given up on dating locally.

Westernized Somali men marrying back home aren’t doing that. They’re reconnecting with their own culture and people usually while relocating for business, family, or professional reasons. If they move back and end up marrying locally, that’s just a natural part of resettling, not the core purpose of going there.

Calling that “passport bro” behavior is like calling someone who moves back to their hometown and marries there a tourist. It just doesn’t make sense.

“Kisame genuinely thinks every Somali is a loser, and he projects that in every thread, even when it’s about American Somalis as a whole. “

Why would I think this? I’ve very aware of the amount of successful Somalis within our community here in America. I grew up with positive Somali male role models and followed in their footsteps.

You literally frame every older-gen Somali as if they were all just Uber drivers or warehouse workers, when that couldn’t be further from the truth.

Somalis have always been employed across diverse service-sector roles. When they first arrived, they took whatever work was available to support their families and plenty of them have since moved into other professional career paths.

What’s ironic about your framing is that Uber didn’t even exist when most of them first came there. It’s something people from all backgrounds do now as a side hustle, not some default Somali job. older-gen Somalis in the U.S. include doctors, engineers, teachers, accountants, business owners, and entrepreneurs , not just “gig workers.”
Many started at entry-level jobs to survive, but they’ve steadily built careers and businesses over the decades. Painting them all as warehouse or Uber workers ignores that reality entirely.

“He also pushes this idea that most are on food stamps,”

nigga I had food stamps and so did most of the somalis I grew up around. I didn’t consider that a diss at all. Most poor immigrant families can qualify for food stamps. Theirs literally nothing wrong with using it. Millions of low income people nationwide use food stamps.

Sure, many Somali families relied on food stamps when they first arrived , that’s normal for any immigrant group starting from scratch. The point isn’t that using food stamps is bad , it’s that most Somali families moved away from relying on government assistance by the early 2000s

Here’s some data/research supporting that trend:

It shows that Somali immigrants didn’t stay dependent; over time, they transitioned into self-sufficiency through work, entrepreneurship, and professional careers:

“Another thing he’s wrong about is thinking successful or educated Somalis never move back home.”

My main point was that most of our educated diaspora won’t be moving back anytime soon. This is a common thing for every immigrant group here in America. Now in 20-40 years from now I definitely expect to see a bunch of retired engineers and doctors moving back to Somalia to help.

Your point is off , plenty of educated diaspora Somalis have already moved back to Somalia to contribute to rebuilding the country.

And it’s not just retirees in their 60s or 70s many are in their 20s and 30s, already starting businesses, taking professional roles, and investing in the local economy. It’s happening right now, not just decades from now.

“Former scientist now living and documenting his life in Hargeisa”

Bruh this nigga gave up a whole career in chemical engineering just to become a tutor Imma always consider that crazy.

Tutoring was an online side business where he would help student with their GSCE's and he would give career advice , he works as a project manager/scientist as his day job. This is before he moved to Somaliland.

People in Somalia work normal professional office jobs settings , you don't have to give up a professional role to become an online tutor.

 

[Lostbox]

More and more data coming out showing that older men are causing birth defects

 

[Gacmeey]

Most Somalis who move back home aren’t doing it for dating/marriage reasons, and definitely not as part of this so-called “passport bro” trend. I can’t stress that enough.

There’s actual research on this that interviews returnees about their motives. For example:
“It Is Better to Do Business in Africa than in Europe: Socio-Economic Positionings among Business-Minded European Somalis Moving to Kenya”
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15562948.2020.1773009#d1e135


What it shows is that people who move back to Somalia (or Africa in general) are usually doing it because they see economic opportunities, want to invest, or have the education and resources to rebuild their lives there. It’s rarely something random or out of desperation.


Framing it like it’s mostly guys going back just to find wives is misleading and it risks unfairly stigmatizing Somalis who want to move back to build something meaningful.

This. I want to marry a woman from back home because it would be easier to move back. Chances are a xalimo from the west doesn’t want to move back simply because her family and friends live in the west and it would mean leaving them

 

[truenature]

just get married before you start balding walalo or else it’ll be harder for you

 

[Ahmedaden07]

Still not married ?