DID you know children are more likely to be harmed by their biological mother than father?

[Cognitivedissonance]

I did not say that !!!


Ever heard of munchausen syndrome? That alone tells me mothers are capable of some horrific stuff but I also agree with what @TooMacaan said , children are more likely to be with their mothers versus their fathers thus leads to the stats that mothers abuse their kids more.

Look at it this way police officers are more likely to be patrolling black neighbourhoods thus more black Males are arrested. Doesn't mean white people commit less crime !

At the end of the day abuse is not a one gendered thing and both parents can be quite dangerous.

So you’re saying women more nurturing than men they’re more compassion more merciful but equally as being capable of violence and asbuse of their children as the man?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

This peasant @Cognitivedissonance
And his woman hating tirade

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Instead of resorting to insults why don’t you deal with the topic of mothers abusing their kids more than fathers or cognitive dissonance perhaps kkk

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

According to your own ideological beliefs, if a father spent more time with their kids...they'd probably be even waaay more abusive than women.

I can't make any meaningful predictions though. My best guess is 'at least just as much', but I'd have to understand why those women even abused their children in the first place. Was it because they were evil individuals? Was it mental illness? Was it drugs? I need more info. The study would've been better off researching the why, so it could map out a plan of action to prevent future abuses...rather than making it a gender battle.

Anyways, your question isn't something that could be studied atm, since it doesn't reflect our reality. Not enough house husbands out there.

If I made a thread about men being the most likely of committing voilence in the work place would you really respond by making the argument that there’s more men in the work place than women? Your flagrant cognitive bias hasn’t gone unnoticed still you haven’t condemned women for being violent towards innocent harmless children, here you are trying to make excuses instead of trying to deal with the root iisue which is women are more violent to children than men.


Why do you think women are more abuseive and violent towards children? Is it due to the mother seeing hating her son father and her son reminding her of his father?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I find you beyond hilarious

Frankenstein and Dracula have nothing on you
Jekyll and Hyde join the back of the queue
The female of the species is more deadly than the male

 

[TooMacaan]

If I made a thread about men being the most likely of committing voilence in the work place would you really respond by making the argument that there’s more men in the work place than women? Your flagrant cognitive bias hasn’t gone unnoticed still you haven’t condemned women for being violent towards innocent harmless children, here you are trying to make excuses instead of trying to deal with the root iisue which is women are more violent to children than men.


Why do you think women are more abuseive and violent towards children? Is it due to the mother seeing hating her son father and her son reminding her of his father?

I already pointed out to you, the ways in which a workplace environment differs from a home environment. I already said that it'd make sense for males to make up the majority percentage of perpetrators in workplace violence if the workplace is majority males. And I already condemned all forms of abuse.

I feel like everything I say to you goes in one ear, and out the other. Did you even read my posts? Are you just trolling me??

No, I'm saying the findings can't conclude that the problem is one of gender...if both men and women aren't equally represented in child rearing (hence, why I asked you that question in the first place).

A place of employment is more likely to have strict rules and oversight, which would prevent workplace violence-- but if any workplace violence was to happen in a place that's majority male...yes, both the perpetrator (and victim) would most likely be male.

I'm not justifying abusive behavior of any kind, I'm only explaining why the results might appear that way.

Huh?? Did you miss the last sentence in my last quote...?


I'm not making any excuses whatsoever. What else would you like to hear? YES, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY JOIN YOU IN CONDEMNING MOTHERS WHO ABUSE THEIR KIDS.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I already pointed out to you, the ways in which a workplace environment differs from a home environment. I already said that it'd make sense for males to make up the majority percentage of perpetrators in workplace violence if the workplace is majority males. And I already condemned all forms of abuse.

I feel like everything I say to you goes in one ear, and out the other. Did you even read my posts? Are you just trolling me??

women meant to be more nurturing compassion merciful than men? Looking at the statistics it clearly says otherwise.

Women are just as capable of violence if not more so than men when it comes to the abuse of their own children

 

[TooMacaan]

Are women meant to be more nurturing compassion than men? Looking at the statistics it clearly says otherwise.

Women as just as capable of violence if not more so than men when it comes to the abuse of their own children

Not all women are the same...who woulda' thunk it?!

Universally, women tend to be more compassionate and nurturing- yes. That's not always the case though, as evidenced by the fact some women act outside that norm. This study only shows that some mothers are capable of violence towards their children though, it gives no insight on how fathers would act (whether just the same, worse, or perhaps even- better) nor what caused the mothers to do such harm.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Not all women are the same...who woulda' thunk it?!

Universally, women tend to be more compassionate and nurturing- yes. That's not always the case though, as evidenced by the fact some women act outside that norm. This study only shows that some mothers are capable of violence towards their children though, it gives no insight on how fathers would act (whether just the same, worse, or perhaps even- better) nor what caused the mothers to do such harm.

So we finally agree women are just as capable of being violent to their children it just goes to show not all women are nurturing merciful towards their children like the western media would have us believe infact more women kill their children than men.

This fallacy that all mothers can’t be abusive to their kids is just that just a fallacy mothers are more likely to abuse their kids than fathers.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

@TooMacaan lets go by your logic you say more women are abusive to their kids cause they spend more time around their kids thelan men so naturally women would abuse their kids more than me .


Let’s apply your logic in the work place since more men spend more time at work than women.


“There is no significant difference in the prevalence of verbal abuse in the workplace between men and women, according to a systematic review of the literature conducted by researchers at the Institut universitaire de santé mentale de Montréal and the University of Montreal.”


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141118072520.htm

 

[TooMacaan]

So we finally agree women are just as capable of being violent to their children it just goes to show not all women are nurturing merciful towards their children like the western media would have us believe infact more women kill their children than men.

This fallacy that all mothers can’t be abusive to their kids is just that just a fallacy mothers are more likely to abuse their kids than fathers.

Finally agree..? I never said it was impossible to begin with; every human has a potential to do evil. Everyone, regardless of gender, is capable of some kind of monstrosity. We're not perfect beings after all (men nor women).

And again, not ALL women are the same.
Women being universally more compassionate and nurturing than men, while true, is talking about averages.

I won't agree, though, that "women kill their children more than men" or that "mothers are more likely to abuse their kids than fathers" because those are meaningless conclusions, only supported on a surface level. You're being misleading when you make those statements. We've already gone through why that's the case in this thread-- and you've given me no evidence that the abuse is DIRECTLY CAUSED BY the fact that the parent happens to be biologically female.

@TooMacaan lets go by your logic you say more women are abusive to their kids cause they spend more time around their kids thelan men so naturally women would abuse their kids more than me .


Let’s apply your logic in the work place since more men spend more time at work than women.


“There is no significant difference in the prevalence of verbal abuse in the workplace between men and women, according to a systematic review of the literature conducted by researchers at the Institut universitaire de santé mentale de Montréal and the University of Montreal.”


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141118072520.htm

You provided me with a study of males in a female dominated workplace??? How on earth could that produce more violence by men?

"This lack of difference can be explained by the fact the studies were conducted in the health sector. Men conform to a female-dominated environment by adopting certain behaviours that the literature considers stereotypically feminine. For example, they use more often communication techniques and have a less aggressive approach to defusing violent situations compared to men in other sectors."

The above is a quote from the source you, yourself, provided.

Show me a study of workplace violence in a sector like construction. Majority male environment, and where more 'manly' men can be found. I'd love to see the results.

 

[The Cushitic One]

Instead of resorting to insults why don’t you deal with the topic of mothers abusing their kids more than fathers or cognitive dissonance perhaps kkk

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Finally agree..? I never said it was impossible to begin with; every human has a potential to do evil. Everyone, regardless of gender, is capable of some kind of monstrosity. We're not perfect beings after all (men nor women).

And again, not ALL women are the same.
Women being universally more compassionate and nurturing than men, while true, is talking about averages.

I won't agree, though, that "women kill their children more than men" or that "mothers are more likely to abuse their kids than fathers" because those are meaningless conclusions, only supported on a surface level. You're being misleading when you make those statements. We've already gone through why that's the case in this thread-- and you've given me no evidence that the abuse is DIRECTLY CAUSED BY the fact that the parent happens to be biologically female.


You provided me with a study of males in a female dominated workplace??? How on earth could that produce more violence by men?

"This lack of difference can be explained by the fact the studies were conducted in the health sector. Men conform to a female-dominated environment by adopting certain behaviours that the literature considers stereotypically feminine. For example, they use more often communication techniques and have a less aggressive approach to defusing violent situations compared to men in other sectors."

The above is a quote from the source you, yourself, provided.

Show me a study of workplace violence in a sector like construction. Majority male environment, and where more 'manly' men can be found. I'd love to see the results.

The video shows Elkins (the man’s girlfriend at the time) in an angry rampage. When she gets mad at the man for not handing over a cell phone, she beats his son with a wooden spoon. She declares, "You like watching your son be abused? Because I'm gonna keep doing it."


Throughout the nine minute video, Elkins beats the child and verbally abuses him. She says, "And you, I just don't like you so please go play in traffic and get hit by a car so you're dead. 'Cause no one wants you around, ever."


The father, and another woman in the house asked her to stop but neither physically intervened. Online supporters claim the father had reported her abusive behavior in the past but police did nothing so he felt he had to record proof. Court records do not indicate the father called police to report the recorded abuse.


http://www.pahomepage.com/news/woman-beat-child-while-childs-father-recorded-the-abuse/128905381

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

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You don’t care about the abuse of children? You’re a sick twisted individual who lacks compassion nor empathy towards the weakest most vulnerable in our societies, children

 

[TooMacaan]

The video shows Elkins (the man’s girlfriend at the time) in an angry rampage. When she gets mad at the man for not handing over a cell phone, she beats his son with a wooden spoon. She declares, "You like watching your son be abused? Because I'm gonna keep doing it."


Throughout the nine minute video, Elkins beats the child and verbally abuses him. She says, "And you, I just don't like you so please go play in traffic and get hit by a car so you're dead. 'Cause no one wants you around, ever."


The father, and another woman in the house asked her to stop but neither physically intervened. Online supporters claim the father had reported her abusive behavior in the past but police did nothing so he felt he had to record proof. Court records do not indicate the father called police to report the recorded abuse.


http://www.pahomepage.com/news/woman-beat-child-while-childs-father-recorded-the-abuse/128905381

I don't get what the above has to do with the discussion tbh. While that's certainly horrifying, unjust, and heartbreaking-- anecdotal evidence of female individuals acting in a barbaric manner...does not prove anything about general female nature.

What actually stuck out to me from that, was the lack of police response to child abuse (if that's true [the court records say otherwise]). Children should always be the biggest priority in any civilized society. Even if the abuse is alleged, they should've investigated the case or sent CPS/social workers to check it out at the very least. Also, why didn't anyone physically intervene to stop the abuse? Was the girlfriend physically more capable than both the male and the other woman??

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Who hurt you @Cognitivedissonance

Was eedo macaan beating your bad ass when you were growing up?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I don't get what the above has to do with the discussion tbh. While that's certainly horrifying, unjust, and heartbreaking-- anecdotal evidence of female individuals acting in a barbaric manner...does not prove anything about general female nature.

What actually stuck out to me from that, was the lack of police response to child abuse (if that's true [the court records say otherwise]). Children should always be the biggest priority in any civilized society. Even if the abuse is alleged, they should've investigated the case or sent CPS/social workers to check it out at the very least. Also, why didn't anyone physically intervene to stop the abuse? Was the girlfriend physically more capable than both the male and the other woman??

The police and society in general turn a blind eye to women abusing their kids. The reason why the father didn’t intervene was cause he reported it numerous times but to no avail, say if he man handled her in order to prevent her from abusing his son, he would be arrested for abusing a female.

It’s a gynocentric society where women are deemed as being more important than a baby notice how the police didn’t do anything? Now imagine if it was a man abusing the child? The courts would throw the book at him.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Who hurt you @Cognitivedissonance

Was eedo macaan beating your bad ass when you were growing up?

what has the link got to do with me? I didn’t make these statistics up so it’s beyond me why you would feel I have something to do with this I’m just the messenger.

Reiko why do you think mothers are more abusive to their children than fathers?

 

[Luna]

Some mothers have Post Partum Depression and that can sometimes make them do terrible things they wouldn't otherwise do.
Its very sad either way when a child is abused whether by the mother or father. Abuse is not gender based.

 

[Malikfiqi]

Women are innocent creatures they would never hurt a fly.

 

[Sophisticate]

I absolutely agree. Women are responsible for 100% of postpartum-related murders.