Did Muawiyah say this to his Black Companion?
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delete this wallah, no point in unnecessary fitna
I’m asking a question sxb, I’m serious no trolling. Do you have any knowledge on why he said or if he said it? It’s very interesting!
This is what a Persian guy said about Somalis
"A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq ... do not come out with something between blonde, buff and blanched coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of similar light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burned, so that the child comes out something between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the Zanj, the Somali, and other blacks who resemble them. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two."
Ibn al-Faqih al-Hamadani, Mukhtasar Kitab al-Buldan, 903 AD
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was the one slave white or Arab? I assume white slaves would go for higher in market value due to comparative scarcity in their supply.
or it may simply be that that due to racist attitudes, black slaves were sold for less. if that is the case, obviously it's the market that's racist, not Prophet Muhammad ﷺ. I don't think it had to do with the views of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, I think it simply reflects the market.
This is what a Persian guy said about Somalis
"A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq ... do not come out with something between blonde, buff and blanched coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of similar light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burned, so that the child comes out something between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the Zanj, the Somali, and other blacks who resemble them. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two."
Ibn al-Faqih al-Hamadani, Mukhtasar Kitab al-Buldan, 903 AD
It clearly says Ethiopian.
Cush
Cushite Arab
Yes the Arabs loved white slaves so much and it's in turn what made them so small in number
techsamatar
I put Books to the Test of Life
That so called Black companion was a Pure Arab so more proof.@Haragwaafi @Cush This What the Tweet is Talking about, but here is the Full thing.
In Ibn Katheer’s Tafseer of the Quran chapter 2 he narrates,
Mu’awiya said, Call Abdullah bin Mas’adah al Fazari and he was Adam Shadeed Al Udmah Muaywah then he said (to Masa’dah) whiten your progeny with this Roman slave woman.”
تفسير القرآن العظيم – ج2 – 3آل عمران – 4النسآء ص ٢٤٧
قال حدثني خديج خصى لمعاوية قال قال لي معاوية ادع لي عبد الله بن مسعدة الفزاري فدعوته وكان آدم شديد الأدمة فقال دونك هذه الجارية لجارية رومية بيض بها ولدك
Ibn Katheer narrates about the same sahaaby in another chapter but in a slightly different way . This time he says Aswad Shadeed Al Udmah instead of Adam Shadeed Al Udmah as he did before but in a different context.
Ibn Katheer narrates in his book Tafseer Al Quran Chapter 10:
Abdullah ibn Mas’adah Al Faraazy was Aswad Shadeed Al Udmah
قال عماد الدين أبو الفداء إسماعيل بن كثير في كتابه تفسير القرآن العظيم (تفسير ابن كثير) – ج 10
عبد الله بن مساعدة الفزارى كان أسود شديد الأدمة
Ibn Katheer mentions him again in another book of his and describes the same sahaabah using only the word Aswad
Ibn Katheer says in his book Al Bidaayah wa Al Nihaayah Chapter 8 page 149
And Mu’awiya said, Call Abdullah bin Mas’adah al Fazari the servant of Fatimah the daughter of the Messenger of Allah, for me and he was Aswad. Then he said (to Masa’dah) whiten your progeny with her”
قال عماد الدين أبو الفداء إسماعيل بن كثير في كتابه البداية والنهاية
و قال: ثم وهبها لعبد الله بن مسعدة الفزاري مولى فَاطِمَةُ بِنْتُ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، وكان أسود فقال له: بيض بها ولدك، وهذا من فقه معاوية ونحريه
Muawiyah himself was Pure Black Arab and the Arabs breeded heavy with their Persian and roman right hand possessions and the wealth they inherited from their victory, and now their Arabised Persian descendants are claiming to being the Original Arabs.
In Ibn Katheer’s Tafseer of the Quran chapter 2 he narrates,
Mu’awiya said, Call Abdullah bin Mas’adah al Fazari and he was Adam Shadeed Al Udmah Muaywah then he said (to Masa’dah) whiten your progeny with this Roman slave woman.”
تفسير القرآن العظيم – ج2 – 3آل عمران – 4النسآء ص ٢٤٧
قال حدثني خديج خصى لمعاوية قال قال لي معاوية ادع لي عبد الله بن مسعدة الفزاري فدعوته وكان آدم شديد الأدمة فقال دونك هذه الجارية لجارية رومية بيض بها ولدك
Ibn Katheer narrates about the same sahaaby in another chapter but in a slightly different way . This time he says Aswad Shadeed Al Udmah instead of Adam Shadeed Al Udmah as he did before but in a different context.
Ibn Katheer narrates in his book Tafseer Al Quran Chapter 10:
Abdullah ibn Mas’adah Al Faraazy was Aswad Shadeed Al Udmah
قال عماد الدين أبو الفداء إسماعيل بن كثير في كتابه تفسير القرآن العظيم (تفسير ابن كثير) – ج 10
عبد الله بن مساعدة الفزارى كان أسود شديد الأدمة
Ibn Katheer mentions him again in another book of his and describes the same sahaabah using only the word Aswad
Ibn Katheer says in his book Al Bidaayah wa Al Nihaayah Chapter 8 page 149
And Mu’awiya said, Call Abdullah bin Mas’adah al Fazari the servant of Fatimah the daughter of the Messenger of Allah, for me and he was Aswad. Then he said (to Masa’dah) whiten your progeny with her”
قال عماد الدين أبو الفداء إسماعيل بن كثير في كتابه البداية والنهاية
و قال: ثم وهبها لعبد الله بن مسعدة الفزاري مولى فَاطِمَةُ بِنْتُ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، وكان أسود فقال له: بيض بها ولدك، وهذا من فقه معاوية ونحريه
Muawiyah himself was Pure Black Arab and the Arabs breeded heavy with their Persian and roman right hand possessions and the wealth they inherited from their victory, and now their Arabised Persian descendants are claiming to being the Original Arabs.
Cush
Cushite Arab
Imagine if they enslaved the people from the Zanj and the Madows started claiming to be the real Arabs
LOL
It is no loss to anyone, that self-haters whitened themselves.
It is no loss to anyone, that self-haters whitened themselves.
techsamatar
I put Books to the Test of Life
It was a Prophecy and sign of day of judgment and part of Allah's plan do not say self haters. The prophet predicted the Ajam/Reds sharing their lineage and lands before even his death.
Just because the prophet SAW predicted it, does not mean he endorsed it!
It is self-hate to purposefully change your people's appearance. What else can it be called?
Self haters
It's just preferences nothing more nothing less
Cush
Cushite Arab
And this is the tactic of the people who want to take our country over, higher bots and trolls to cause terror among the Somalis to make them hate each other based on gender, make them liberalized self haters believing their black, start watching them marry out, and eventually we'll have hundreds of spy children working for their fathers/mothers countries to initiate their goals
They knew that the Somalsi are an unbreakable people, so this is how they get to us, by using these filthy spies inan gumeeds like Abti Liibaan, who works for the Swedish government btw you niggas don't know the game so you eat what ever niggas say on the internet they admit this themselves
They knew that the Somalsi are an unbreakable people, so this is how they get to us, by using these filthy spies inan gumeeds like Abti Liibaan, who works for the Swedish government btw you niggas don't know the game so you eat what ever niggas say on the internet they admit this themselves
Bro slipped in Somalis for brownie victim points
This is what a Persian guy said about Somalis
"A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq ... do not come out with something between blonde, buff and blanched coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of similar light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burned, so that the child comes out something between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the Zanj, the Somali, and other blacks who resemble them. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two."
Ibn al-Faqih al-Hamadani, Mukhtasar Kitab al-Buldan, 903 AD
Did he say ( the Somali ) ?
Or did you insert it ?
I ask you to come with the Arabic text .
2 Kafirs for a Muslim not racial
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