Diaspora, immigrant communities, and the critique of culture.

[faarax_mn]

I've noticed, not just with Somalis, but with all immigrant communities, Chinese, Mexicans, Indians, etc, those born outside or in the west tend to critique their own culture a lot more, calling it toxic, etc.

Of course, a lot of the time, they're right, but that's not the point. Why do y'all think 1st gen children of immigrants tend to critique their own culture more? Is it because they grew up in the west and that kind of set a basic standard of what their culture should be?

And of course like I mentioned, this seems to be universal, across all immigrant communities.

And I've also noticed, the more left or left leaning they are(i.e those who put pronouns in their bio, Socialists, etc) they tend to critique their culture even more.

I think that this is because immigrants communities tend to be conservative in values, but vote for the left leaning party because the right wing party usually doesn't want them there in the first place.

 

[Dima&Damo]

Bro The Most Toxic Culture Is In The West

 

[trucel]

New perspective from growing up in western world probably.

 

[Macalin dheerow]

I think the diasporas especially somalis will split between those who have conservative values and those who are more liberal. Some people will stay in the middle, bouncing back between the two. Will be interesting to see. Both will create a culture, one has its roots in Somalia and one has in the West.


Personally Im seeing that in real life. Somalis who are more liberal tend to hang out with each other and vice versa. Those who fit in both will navigate between the two. There is already clashes between the two groups. We can see it here ä.

 

[CanoGeel]

I've noticed, not just with Somalis, but with all immigrant communities, Chinese, Mexicans, Indians, etc, those born outside or in the west tend to critique their own culture a lot more, calling it toxic, etc.

Of course, a lot of the time, they're right, but that's not the point. Why do y'all think 1st gen children of immigrants tend to critique their own culture more? Is it because they grew up in the west and that kind of set a basic standard of what their culture should be?

And of course like I mentioned, this seems to be universal, across all immigrant communities.

And I've also noticed, the more left or left leaning they are(i.e those who put pronouns in their bio, Socialists, etc) they tend to critique their culture even more.

I think that this is because immigrants communities tend to be conservative in values, but vote for the left leaning party because the right wing party usually doesn't want them there in the first place.

Ya it's intra-ethnic othering and unfortunately is more prevalent those with parents of low socioeconomic background.
It's a form of mental gymnastics to deflect themselves from stereotypes and stigmas associated with the said groups;an internalized oppression, sort of.

Have u ever heard the cringe cliché of "I am not like my (insert an ethnicity/nationality)"