Opinion | Why People Are Fleeing Blue Cities for Red States (Published 2023)
Pro-business policies are behind boom towns.
Democrats 2032 problem
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They take their voting habits with them, destroying the better jurisdiction they moved too.
These places there moving to are gerrymandered impossible for Texas to turn blue and working class Hispanics out number white liberals by a lot
Texas will be the state with the biggest population in 15 years the decline of California is real
They vote in municipal elections too. They'll vote for higher property taxes, dedicated bike lanes reducing lanes for cars, anti-business regulations, lots of service fees, funding for illegals, allowing tent cities for drug users who need forced intervention, and much more.
Illegals immigrants won’t be an issue with the Trump deportations and biking lanes are nice you wanna be in a car 24/7 ?
Austin a liberal city has done a very good job eradicating homelessness and business regulations are created by the state government
Business-Friendly, Big Time: Why Texas Is The U.S. State That French Companies Shouldn’t Miss - Bpifrance.com
Move over, Silicon Valley! Texas is the place to be for French companies looking to expand across the Atlantic, particularly in the energy and tech sectors. Constance Bost, CEO of the French-American Chamber of Commerce in Texas, explains why the U.S. state deserves extra attention from abroad.
www.bpifrance.com
https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/texas-ranked-best-state-for-business-21-years-in-a-row#:~:text=Governor%20Greg%20Abbott%20today%20celebrated,of%20the%20nation's%20leading%20CEOs.
Illegals immigrants won’t be an issue with the Trump deportations and biking lanes are nice you wanna be in a car 24/7 ?
Austin a liberal city has done a very good job eradicating homelessness and business regulations are created by the state government
Business-Friendly, Big Time: Why Texas Is The U.S. State That French Companies Shouldn’t Miss - Bpifrance.com
Move over, Silicon Valley! Texas is the place to be for French companies looking to expand across the Atlantic, particularly in the energy and tech sectors. Constance Bost, CEO of the French-American Chamber of Commerce in Texas, explains why the U.S. state deserves extra attention from abroad.
https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/texas-ranked-best-state-for-business-21-years-in-a-row#:~:text=Governor%20Greg%20Abbott%20today%20celebrated,of%20the%20nation's%20leading%20CEOs.
He won't deport much. When I refer to illegals, I mean the non-Latino kind. The Latinos should stay.
Bikes are for recreation, not travelling. They have many trails they could use or they could use the sidewalk.
Idilinaa
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Wealthy elites and major corporations often flee blue states for red states, not because red states offer better opportunities, but because they offer weaker oversight. They're looking to escape higher taxes, environmental protections, labor standards, and union power.
But red states don’t actually benefit in a meaningful way. As I’ve discussed before, these regions often remain poorer, with worse healthcare outcomes, underfunded education systems, and stagnant wages , even after those businesses relocate. The wealth still flows upward and outward, not into the communities doing the work.
Just to show you how much Republicans are willing to forsake people and tolerate massive levels of human suffering and destruction in the name of higher profits to the point the create ''Cancer Alleys' in places like Louisiana.
You heard Donald Trump on the campaign trail complain about America not producing more oil for environment protection. This is what higher fossil fuel production does, it creates massive amount of pollution that renders entire populations sick
US: Louisiana’s ‘Cancer Alley’
The fossil fuel and petrochemical industry in the Louisiana area that has come to be known as “Cancer Alley” has devastated the health, lives, and environment of residents.www.hrw.org
“We’re Dying Here”
The 98-page report, “‘We’re Dying Here’: The Fight for Life in a Louisiana Fossil Fuel Sacrifice Zone,” documents how residents of Cancer Alley suffer the effects of extreme pollution from the fossil fuel and petrochemical industry, facing elevated rates and risks of maternal, reproductive, and...
Thats why they have higher rates of poverty and higher unemployment. Just to put into perspective they higher problems across all areas.
What the guy in the video doesn't seem to realize is this: it's the same class of wealthy elites moving into red states who helped create the affordability crisis in blue states in the first place
They're the ones buying up entire neighborhoods, driving up property values and rent prices, and turning homes into investment assets rather than places for people to live. It’s happening across the country:
Billionaire Investors Are 'Supercharging' Housing Crisis: Report | Common Dreams
A new report reveals how billionaires are worsening the housing crisis, leaving ordinary Americans struggling to afford a home. Are we okay with the wealthy controlling our housing market while millions are left homeless? It's time to demand change and prioritize affordable housing for all...
www.commondreams.org
Report: How Billionaire Buyers Are Making the Housing Crisis Worse
The financialization of the housing sector is driving up costs for ordinary families and keeping available units off the market.
So when they move to red states to ‘escape’ blue-state policies, they’re just exporting the same inequality ,without the safety nets or regulations that might at least try to soften the blow.
BIG Blue states like Cali are expensive because they have stupid zoning laws it’s really that simple let people build and the price will come down housing bubbles in America usually bursts every 10 years or so it’s not Canada and California does not manufacture anything it all went overseasWealthy elites and major corporations often flee blue states for red states, not because red states offer better opportunities, but because they offer weaker oversight. They're looking to escape higher taxes, environmental protections, labor standards, and union power.
But red states don’t actually benefit in a meaningful way. As I’ve discussed before, these regions often remain poorer, with worse healthcare outcomes, underfunded education systems, and stagnant wages , even after those businesses relocate. The wealth still flows upward and outward, not into the communities doing the work.
What the guy in the video doesn't seem to realize is this: it's the same class of wealthy elites moving into red states who helped create the affordability crisis in blue states in the first place
They're the ones buying up entire neighborhoods, driving up property values and rent prices, and turning homes into investment assets rather than places for people to live. It’s happening across the country:
Billionaire Investors Are 'Supercharging' Housing Crisis: Report | Common Dreams
A new report reveals how billionaires are worsening the housing crisis, leaving ordinary Americans struggling to afford a home. Are we okay with the wealthy controlling our housing market while millions are left homeless? It's time to demand change and prioritize affordable housing for all...Report: How Billionaire Buyers Are Making the Housing Crisis Worse
The financialization of the housing sector is driving up costs for ordinary families and keeping available units off the market.www.planetizen.com
So when they move to red states to ‘escape’ blue-state policies, they’re just exporting the same inequality ,without the safety nets or regulations that might at least try to soften the blow.
California losing manufacturing jobs faster than rest of U.S.
California is losing a battle with other states to retain and attract manufacturing jobs, and the cost of doing business is largely to blame, according to a report released today by the Milken...
www.reliableplant.com
Most red states are rural places I’m taking about places like Texas and Florida which have wages the are the same as Cali or New York
Most of the people who are leaving are not billionaires there middle class people there sick of the excuses practice what you preach
'Not the Golden State anymore': Middle- and low-income people leaving California
Many who have left the state say they simply couldn’t afford to stay. One report found that the majority of people leaving earned less than $100,000, while the state has seen an influx of those making $100,000 or more.
calmatters.org
New York sees exodus of middle-class Americans
New York's living costs are driving people out of state, according to new data from Hire A Helper.
www.newsweek.com
Austin has done a good job with housing
How Austin's real-estate boom went bust
Home prices and rents are down significantly in Austin, a pandemic-era boomtown. But the slowdown is actually a sign of a healthy market.
www.businessinsider.com
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Latinos are the visible majority in Texas and Arizona
America has a shit on of highways I wish they could build high speed rail in the urban areas
Idilinaa
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Zoning laws are a thing even in red states , they’re not exclusive to California or blue states. In fact, many red states have strict zoning too, especially in suburban and semi-rural areas where residents oppose multi-family housing or higher-density development.
It's something i spoke about in another thread about American "NIMBY" culture , which makes affordable housing difficult to build.
The key difference isn’t just zoning , it’s demand, speculation, and how real estate is treated as an investment vehicle. California’s housing crisis isn’t solely because of zoning. It’s also because corporate landlords, private equity firms, and wealthy individuals have bought up entire neighborhoods and priced locals out.
Most of the people who are leaving are not billionaires there middle class people there sick of the excuses practice what you preach
'Not the Golden State anymore': Middle- and low-income people leaving California
Many who have left the state say they simply couldn’t afford to stay. One report found that the majority of people leaving earned less than $100,000, while the state has seen an influx of those making $100,000 or more.
What did i say, read carefully:
The irony is that they will just recreate the same housing crisis and affordability in red states, that makes people leave. Which is happening as we speak.
Austin has done a good job with housing
How Austin's real-estate boom went bust
Home prices and rents are down significantly in Austin, a pandemic-era boomtown. But the slowdown is actually a sign of a healthy market.
Too bad it isn't true for many cities in Texas.
You can read more about it here
Takeaways from our reporting on Texas’ housing affordability crisis
The Texas Tribune examined the state’s housing affordability crisis and why the state has struggled to build enough homes to meet demand.
www.texastribune.org
Same thing in Florida
Clouds Looming Over the Sunshine State’s Housing Market - The MortgagePoint
Florida’s housing market faces a conflux of headwinds threatening to turn its prospects stormy, from home prices to insurance challenges. Are Floridian homeowners poised to begin fleeing for sunnier skies elsewhere?
themortgagepoint.com
And also Arizona
Housing Affordability in Arizona Quarter 3 2024 Update
Common Sense Institute Arizona’s housing shortfall, misery index, and housing report card
New York sees exodus of middle-class Americans
New York's living costs are driving people out of state, according to new data from Hire A Helper.
They are moving there because it is cheaper ,not because of the living standard of living is good
Americans are increasingly moving to red, Republican-leaning states – where life is cheaper, but people also die younger
Idaho, Montana and Florida had the highest population growth among US states between 2020 and 2022.
theconversation.com
But the reverse scenario will happen soon enough.
Austin is the best liberal city in America the mayor and city council have really done a good job it’s so clean and safe by the way major cities in every red state are run by blue mayorsZoning laws are a thing even in red states , they’re not exclusive to California or blue states. In fact, many red states have strict zoning too, especially in suburban and semi-rural areas where residents oppose multi-family housing or higher-density development.
It's something i spoke about in another thread about American "NIMBY" culture , which makes affordable housing difficult to build.
The key difference isn’t just zoning , it’s demand, speculation, and how real estate is treated as an investment vehicle. California’s housing crisis isn’t solely because of zoning. It’s also because corporate landlords, private equity firms, and wealthy individuals have bought up entire neighborhoods and priced locals out.
What did i say, read carefully:
The irony is that they will just recreate the same housing crisis and affordability in red states, that makes people leave. Which is happening as we speak.
Too bad it isn't true for many cities in Texas.
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You can read more about it here
Takeaways from our reporting on Texas’ housing affordability crisis
The Texas Tribune examined the state’s housing affordability crisis and why the state has struggled to build enough homes to meet demand.
Same thing in Florida
Clouds Looming Over the Sunshine State’s Housing Market - The MortgagePoint
Florida’s housing market faces a conflux of headwinds threatening to turn its prospects stormy, from home prices to insurance challenges. Are Floridian homeowners poised to begin fleeing for sunnier skies elsewhere?
And also Arizona
Housing Affordability in Arizona Quarter 3 2024 Update
Common Sense Institute Arizona’s housing shortfall, misery index, and housing report cardwww.commonsenseinstituteus.org
They are moving there because it is cheaper ,not because of the living standard of living is good
Americans are increasingly moving to red, Republican-leaning states – where life is cheaper, but people also die younger
Idaho, Montana and Florida had the highest population growth among US states between 2020 and 2022.
But the reverse scenario will happen soon enough.
I wish democrats on the national level were like that instead of grifting 24/7 peopel like pelosi and Schumer have to go as well as the Neocon republicans
Texas is still affordable although prices have gone up since everyone is moving there in droves and it still leads the nation in job growth
Interestingly prices have been declining recently
Texas faces major housing market correction as prices drop across state
Texas has seen a surge in house building over the past few years along with a significant population rise.
www.newsweek.com
Idilinaa
VIP
I agree but i've told you before most democrats are corporately bought, they are not truly progressive at all and they won't fully roll out progressive leaning policies in the full sense that their constituency wants. They behave more like centrist if you ask me.
Austin in contrast rolls out really progressive leaning policies. It keeps passing laws that the state of Texas has to overrule it
Texas is still affordable although prices have gone up since everyone is moving there in droves and it still leads the nation in job growth
Interestingly prices have been declining recently
Texas faces major housing market correction as prices drop across state
Texas has seen a surge in house building over the past few years along with a significant population rise.
The increase in housing prices is pricing out locals, that's not sustainable development or growth. Prices should match the earning and purchasing power of the people that live there.
So they are trying to correct the market to reflect this.
