Crybaby Ali Dawah: i was rejected by xalimos

[GlitzyCue_]

I don't get it
Honestly, I don't really give a shit about other people and what makes them "Somali".
All I know is, I'm Somali and I'm proud of that. Other people can live their lives tbh. I only really care about myself
Call me a self-hater or whatever if you want. All I know is, getting annoyed at other people or looking down at them is exhausting.
No point wasting energy crying about how people have left the fold of "Somalinimo" (which seems to be a more and more nebulous concept by the day, going by what I'm hearing users define it as).
We'll agree to disagree.

Im not looking down on them?
I could care less
I have a cousin who married out etc.
And I don’t really give a f*ck who other Somalis marry
But I’ll tell you one thing
They better not expect rights lol
To be a Somali
Your genetics must be mostly Somali
The way the culture is people will look at you weirdly


I don’t think we should encourage it either but ehhh people do what they want
At the end of the day you forfeit being included
And your children being seen as Somalis

 

[Somali Legend]

Honestly I couldn't give a single shit what you say I am or am not
Sorry buddy
You live your life, I live mine. I'm not the type to disown my friends for marrying out.
If that works for you and makes you happy, then go for it. I don't get it, but go for it.

 

[gurey]

Im not looking down on them?
I could care less
I have a cousin who married out etc.
And I don’t really give a f*ck who other Somalis marry
But I’ll tell you one thing
They better not expect rights lol
To be a Somali
Your genetics must be mostly Somali
The way the culture is people will look at you weirdly


I don’t think we should encourage it either but ehhh people do what they want
At the end of the day you forfeit being included
And your children being seen as Somalis

No the parent will have their rights. The non somali parent and the kid will literally be foreigners unless the father is somali and.

 

[DuctTape]

Im not looking down on them?
I could care less
I have a cousin who married out etc.
And I don’t really give a f*ck who other Somalis marry
But I’ll tell you one thing
They better not expect rights lol
To be a Somali
Your genetics must be mostly Somali
The way the culture is people will look at you weirdly


I don’t think we should encourage it either but ehhh people do what they want
At the end of the day you forfeit being included
And your children being seen as Somalis

I was talking more generally.
I can't read your mind, so I don't know your opinions on Somalis who marry out.

If a half-Somali marries a Somali, does that suddenly make them more Somali?
Are their kids Somali?
And how will saying "You're not Somali" to a half Somali person who identifies as Somali "help"?
They will likely ignore you and carry on identifying with the culture and people.
Saying they aren't Somali will just result in them feeling like they're not a part of either group.
And then you have yet another person who's unhappy with Somalia and Somalis in general.
What good does putting yet another person down (like we as a group don't do enough of that already) do?

 

[GlitzyCue_]

No the parent will have their rights. The non somali parent and the kid will literally be foreigners unless the father is somali and.

Either way they forfeit something

 

[gurey]

Either way they forfeit something

Anyways your a naag your opinion dont matter back home. Stop wasting your time on this subject

 

[GlitzyCue_]

I was talking more generally.
I can't read your mind, so I don't know your opinions on Somalis who marry out.

If a half-Somali marries a Somali, does that suddenly make them more Somali?
Are their kids Somali?
And how will saying "You're not Somali" to a half Somali person who identifies as Somali "help"?
They will likely ignore you and carry on identifying with the culture and people.
Saying they aren't Somali will just result in them feeling like they're not a part of either group.
And then you have yet another person who's unhappy with Somalia and Somalis in general.
What good does putting yet another person down (like we as a group don't do enough of that already) do?

How can a halfy identify/claim one culture?
Idgaf they will always be mixed and should identify as that alone. Well yes if a mixed Somali marries a Somali they’re child will be considered Somali because the 25% mix is small. There’s nothing wrong with being inclusive and they should be proud of their mixed heritage instead of begging it.

 

[GlitzyCue_]

Anyways your a naag your opinion dont matter back home. Stop wasting your time on this subject

Who are you talking to warya?
Of course my opinion matters

 

[DuctTape]

How can a halfy identify/claim one culture?
Idgaf they will always be mixed and should identify as that alone. Well yes if a mixed Somali marries a Somali they’re child will be considered Somali because the 25% mix is small. There’s nothing wrong with being inclusive and they should be proud of their mixed heritage instead of begging it.

The problem is, if there's a large enough number of mixed people (i.e Creole groups, etc) they can form their own culture and identify as that, mixed.
But half-Somalis are rare in the grand scheme of things.
People like to belong in groups. Hell, it's a necessity. Human beings need an "us" in the grand "us vs them" psychological narrative.
And the problem a lot of mixed people have (with smaller populated ethnicities) is that they feel like they're "Neither", like this alien species that no-one can relate to.
Can't you see how that would cause a lot of problems later in life? Feelings of inadequacy, not fitting in?
Is this a matter of pride? How hard can it be to let someone feel like they belong, like they fit in? I don't get the mentalities behind a lot of people's opinions in regards to topics like this, honestly.

 

[Somali Legend]

I was talking more generally.
I can't read your mind, so I don't know your opinions on Somalis who marry out.

If a half-Somali marries a Somali, does that suddenly make them more Somali?
Are their kids Somali?
And how will saying "You're not Somali" to a half Somali person who identifies as Somali "help"?
They will likely ignore you and carry on identifying with the culture and people.
Saying they aren't Somali will just result in them feeling like they're not a part of either group.
And then you have yet another person who's unhappy with Somalia and Somalis in general.
What good does putting yet another person down (like we as a group don't do enough of that already) do?

A half-Somali isn't a Somali stop with your nonsense. They can identify as a "Somali" but let me put it this way for you, is a glass of milk still milk if coffee is mixed into it? No, its not. A half-Somali will never be Somali.

Why do you care about they're feelings towards Somalia? They aren't one of us anyways. Stop with the nonsense.

 

[DuctTape]

A half-Somali isn't a Somali stop with your nonsense. They can identify as a "Somali" but let me put it this way for you, is a glass of milk still milk if coffee is mixed into it? No, its not. A half-Somali will never be Somali.

Why do you care about they're feelings towards Somalia? They aren't one of us anyways. Stop with the nonsense.

I'm not going to get into philosophical discussions with you about what it means to be part of an ethnic group.
All I'm asking is to let these people identify as what they want, instead of attacking them and telling them they they aren't.
I'm not claiming that they're Somali. I never said that.
The toxicity in general is exhausting, honestly. I think I made a mistake joining in the discussion on this topic

 

[GlitzyCue_]

The problem is, if there's a large enough number of mixed people (i.e Creole groups, etc) they can form their own culture and identify as that, mixed.
But half-Somalis are rare in the grand scheme of things.
People like to belong in groups. Hell, it's a necessity. Human beings need an "us" in the grand "us vs them" psychological narrative.
And the problem a lot of mixed people have (with smaller populated ethnicities) is that they feel like they're "Neither", like this alien species that no-one can relate to.
Can't you see how that would cause a lot of problems later in life? Feelings of inadequacy, not fitting in?
Is this a matter of pride? How hard can it be to let someone feel like they belong, like they fit in? I don't get the mentalities behind a lot of people's opinions in regards to topics like this, honestly.

I understand exactly what you’re saying Saaxiib but I’m more worried about the full Somali kids.
Ive learned a lot from mixed blacks and there whole light skin versus dark skin problems. Can you imagine if we start calling these mixed kids Somalis.... also Remember mixed Somalis tend to not look Somali
That might give the full kids inferiority complex
The fact they’re being compared to these mixed kids
That’ll raise another problem on its own.
Why don’t they claim there other side?
The parents knew the consequences of marrying out
That’s why if you choose to marry out
You have to teach the child both cultures
Let them know early on the problems they might face

 

[Somali Legend]

I'm not going to get into philosophical discussions with you about what it means to be part of an ethnic group.
All I'm asking is to let these people identify as what they want, instead of attacking them and telling them they they aren't.
I'm not claiming that they're Somali. I never said that.
The toxicity in general is exhausting, honestly. I think I made a mistake joining in the discussion on this topic

Idc I'll tell them what they are and aren't. Saying a half-Somali is Somali is ridiculous. They are bi-racial and shouldn't identify with our great race!

 

[DuctTape]

I understand exactly what you’re saying Saaxiib but I’m more worried about the full Somali kids.
Ive learned a lot from mixed blacks and there whole light skin versus dark skin problems. Can you imagine if we start calling these mixed kids Somalis.... also Remember mixed Somalis tend to not look Somali
That might give the full kids inferiority complex
The fact they’re being compared to these mixed kids
That’ll raise another problem on its own.
Why don’t they claim there other side?
The parents knew the consequences of marrying out
That’s why if you choose to marry out
You have to teach the child both cultures
Let them know early on the problems they might face

That's very true, I never thought about that
I think the best case scenario would have them be like other mixed minority groups in Somalia, like cad cads, instead of being considered 100% fully Somali.
You've got just enough distance to prevent there from being the whole bullshit "Lightskin/darkskin" stuff that black people have (though Somalis have it to a lesser extent), while also maintaining that amount of similarity (because a good chunk of them is still Somali).
Or, like you said, they can identify as either their other ethnicity, or both (effectively identifying as 'mixed').
This is a complicated issue, though. I doubt there's any single correct answer

 

[GlitzyCue_]

That's very true, I never thought about that
I think the best case scenario would have them be like other mixed minority groups in Somalia, like cad cads, instead of being considered 100% fully Somali.
You've got just enough distance to prevent there from being the whole bullshit "Lightskin/darkskin" stuff that black people have (though Somalis have it to a lesser extent), while also maintaining that amount of similarity (because a good chunk of them is still Somali).
Or, like you said, they can identify as either their other ethnicity, or both (effectively identifying as 'mixed').
This is a complicated issue, though. I doubt there's any single correct answer

We’re on the same page Warya
You’re welcome

 

[Somali Legend]

That's very true, I never thought about that
I think the best case scenario would have them be like other mixed minority groups in Somalia, like cad cads, instead of being considered 100% fully Somali.
You've got just enough distance to prevent there from being the whole bullshit "Lightskin/darkskin" stuff that black people have (though Somalis have it to a lesser extent), while also maintaining that amount of similarity (because a good chunk of them is still Somali).
Or, like you said, they can identify as either their other ethnicity, or both (effectively identifying as 'mixed').
This is a complicated issue, though. I doubt there's any single correct answer

Your starting to get it brother. I'm proud of you.

 

[DuctTape]

Your starting to get it brother. I'm proud of you.

I'm still not on board with your extreme opinions

 

[lone]

Desperate times calls for desperate measures

 

[Zumar]

I thought it was hodan yusuf her husband when i saw that picture lolol

Why do somalis always go to these creepy cadaan guys with ginger hair and everything

 

[Zumar]

I would get mad if i was his current wife tho
Why is he crying about eritrean and somali family who didnt want him, when he got a family now?
If i was his wife i would feel like a 3th option or something..