Could it work?

Tukraq

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clan politics won't die in Somalia because the people would never let it, why would they give up model that works so good for them in giving them power and representation, while protecting them from marginalization by the government, the thing we won't ever go to is dictatorship aka worst form of government
 
clan politics won't die in Somalia because the people would never let it, why would they give up model that works so good for them in giving them power and representation, while protecting them from marginalization by the government, the thing we won't ever go to is dictatorship aka worst form of government
The best but only if i am running it
 

Tukraq

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The best but only if i am running it
dosent matter who's running it, dictatorship is as bad as it can possibly get, how in the world do you make the best nation for your people if there options or criticism don't hold weight and can get them jailed, also theres no dissenting voice just yes men so when things go wrong its not corrected or noticed, basically becoming a clusterfuck, worst possible type of government possible
 
dosent matter who's running it, dictatorship is as bad as it can possibly get, how in the world do you make the best nation for your people if there options or criticism don't hold weight and can get them jailed, also theres no dissenting voice just yes men so when things go wrong its not corrected or noticed, basically becoming a clusterfuck, worst possible type of government possible
Still better than murders/raptists running around but i meant a fair dictatorship unlike the past
 

Tukraq

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Still better than murders/raptists running around but i meant a fair dictatorship unlike the past
no such thing as a fair dictatorship, and they fail the fundamental principle guiding a successful nation and thats infringing on the individual rights of the people, dictatorships always end bad for a reason, and are never effective during, pretty much what we have currently is even better, which is why I think were doing better than those countries with dictatorships, id take anarchy over dictatorship
 
no such thing as a fair dictatorship, and they fail the fundamental principle guiding a successful nation and thats infringing on the individual rights of the people, dictatorships always end bad for a reason, and are never effective during, pretty much what we have currently is even better, which is why I think were doing better than those countries with dictatorships, id take anarchy over dictatorship
I bet you would but having softie leaders is not good at all as progress is simple but rule of law must be enforced
 

Tukraq

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I bet you would but having softie leaders is not good at all as progress is simple but rule of law must be enforced
its not about being soft, the constitution should allocate the executive or basically the president very little power where he should act on basically what the people want so giving representatives a lot of power but having those representatives have very short terms so if they don't satisfy there constituency there out, pack you bags, president is basically a public servant in this case not a ruler and the things the people want happen, creating a healthy country, dissent or rivalry between representatives are also good to get all sides usually done by parties, but here is where its useful for clans in Somalia where they take the party role and every mp fights on behave of his people/constituents aka clan and nobody is marginalized,
all thats left would be a supreme or higher court to keep corruption and politicians in check and you have a well functioning democracy along with a free market and you will easily get a strong nation
 
its not about being soft, the constitution should allocate the executive or basically the president very little power where he should act on basically what the people want so giving representatives a lot of power but having those representatives have very short terms so if they don't satisfy there constituency there out, pack you bags, president is basically a public servant in this case not a ruler and the things the people want happen, creating a healthy country, dissent or rivalry between representatives are also good to get all sides usually done by parties, but here is where its useful for clans in Somalia where they take the party role and every mp fights on behave of his people/constituents aka clan and nobody is marginalized,
all thats left would be a supreme or higher court to keep corruption and politicians in check and you have a well functioning democracy along with a free market and you will easily get a strong nation
Yes but since the majority are not represented like they should be in the federal government than the states can do as they please without threats to them to balance out the scale
 

Tukraq

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Yes but since the majority are not represented like they should be in the federal government than the states can do as they please without threats to them to balance out the scale
honestly even states should have power that the feds can't step over and a Supreme or higher Court to rule over it, the feds should be limited in most areas of government other than really foreign policy and ceremonial gestures, people have more voice with there respective states but these can be even further divided so every area and clan have proper representation at the federal level while the states do there own thing
 
honestly even states should have power that the feds can't step over and a Supreme or higher Court to rule over it, the feds should be limited in most areas of government other than really foreign policy and ceremonial gestures, people have more voice with there respective states but these can be even further divided so every area and clan have proper representation at the federal level while the states do there own thing
Yeah but it looks like xamar is headed back wards towards the past than the present or future
 

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its good, it represents the people entirely since everyone has a clan, if every clan is looking out for there self intreats why is it a bad thing because that means everyone benefits, kind of like the polarized party system in America which is a good thing
You mean clan leaders looking out for their self interest win while their ignorant clan members pick up the bill?

There's no such thing as democracy within clans... only influential leaders get to make a decision and they could easily get corrupted.

Clan politics helped us stave off mass starvation during past drought and protected us from raids from others.

However clan politics was never the best way to get shit built and trade rules enforced.


If you give clan leaders political power they'd would start to act like war lords.
 
You mean clan leaders looking out for their self interest win while their ignorant clan members pick up the bill?

There's no such thing as democracy within clans... only influential leaders get to make a decision and they could easily get corrupted.

Clan politics helped us stave off mass starvation during past drought and protected us from raids from others.

However clan politics was never the best way to get shit built and trade rules enforced.


If you give clan leaders political power they'd would start to act like war lords.
Like ahmed the president of jl
 

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