Colourism In the Somali Community

[Kodeen]

I agree. We are diverse. But if we are looking at us as a collective, even the lightest Somali is darker and “blacker” than the majority of the world (non-blacks).

Obviously, because Black skin is almost exclusively found on the cursed continent. There has to be a buffer between races I suppose

 

[Marquis]

He's the perfect example of a Somali-Bantu hybrid warya

Look at his facial features & hair, he clearly has a bantu look. This phenotype is close to the Tutsi type & is numerous nowadays in Konfuur especially.

haye suugo scientist

this place never fails to amaze me.

 

[NA9]

Obviously, because Black skin is almost exclusively found on the cursed continent. There has to be a buffer between races I suppose

Yh, so my point was if any Somali was in a room of non-blacks and someone said niggger, people would look towards them, because even our lightest is “blacker” than them.

 

[Kratos]

I agree. We are diverse. But if we are looking at us as a collective, even the lightest Somali is darker and “blacker” than the majority of the world (non-blacks).

Now I know why you identify as black, you probably have similar features to that girl. No one has ever mistaken me for an African however as I don't look anything like one alhamdulillah. Only Madow looking Somalis can identify as black, the rest of us are fine. We are not collectively black

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

haye suugo scientist

this place never fails to amaze me.

You're delusional wallah


but ofc you'd want to defend your fellow bantu admixed clansmen lmao & deny the truth.

 

[NA9]

Now I know why you identify as black, you probably have similar features to that girl. No one has ever mistaken me for an African however as I don't look anything like one alhamdulillah. Only Madow looking Somalis can identify as black, the rest of us are fine. We are not collectively black

Noone has ever mistaken you for an African?
Are Somalis not African?
You guys are even not claiming African now?
You dont know how I look or anything about my features. 99% of people I meet can tell in Somali instantly, if I dont look Somali, nobody does.

 

[Marquis]

You're delusional wallah


but ofc you'd want to defend your fellow bantu admixed clansmen lmao & deny the truth.

what are you after jidwaaq anyways, bartire or abaskuul?

 

[Kodeen]

Yh, so my point was if any Somali was in a room of non-blacks and someone said niggger, people would look towards them, because even our lightest is “blacker” than them.

But some Somalis don't even look what outsiders perceive as 'African'. Why are you pretending a lot of Somalis aren't routinely mistaken as south asians and in rarer cases Arab? Especially the girls in their hijabs

 

[Kratos]

Noone has ever mistaken you for an African?
Are Somalis not African?
You guys are even not claiming African now?
You dont know how I look or anything about my features. 99% of people I meet can tell in Somali instantly

The division between continents are not objectively apparent as they are socially constructed therefore I don't identify as an African. The term Africa was popularised by white men in the same way the term black was. No Africans were united prior to the arrivals of Europeans on the continent and the use of that term as a form of collective identification is based on a shared history of victimhood. It means nothing to me. My continent is Somaliweyn so no, I'm not African.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

what are you after jidwaaq anyways, bartire or abaskuul?

Bartire

 

[NA9]

But some Somalis don't even look what outsiders perceive as 'African'. Why are you pretending a lot of Somalis aren't routinely mistaken as south asians and in rarer cases Arab? Especially the girls in their hijabs

Ofcourse some are. But im talking about the majority. Somalis are diverse phenotypically but most look “black enough” to the majority. Also some (cadaan) people are ignorant and think that anyone with a brown skintone in a hijab is a paki. But my point still stands.

 

[Marquis]

Bartire

Geedi is 66 years old, do you know that? MashaAllah he looks very good for his age.

 

[Kodeen]

Also some (cadaan) people are ignorant and think that anyone with a brown skintone in a hijab is a paki. But my point still stands.

Still doesn't divert from the fact that they're perceived as non-Black. Black doesn't mean anything other than what outsiders perceive you as.

And majority? Probably. But it's far from uncommon for people you and I would recognise as Somali to get mistaken for non-Black by others

 

[Pureblood]

Blablabla you niggas use these guys in every argument
I dont care if they are black, they can ID as what they want but YOU are black whether you like it or nor

You have no argument here. I'm simply using logic here and all your using is emotions since you're a Bantu sympathizer but like I said you before, Somalis and Cushitic people have nothing to do with Negroids when you check our DNA and phenotype, you cannot deny these facts therefore, we are not the same race but uniting each other based on skin colour is ridiculous because you don't see Europeans claiming white Mongoloids that live in Siberia.

These people are white too but they're not Caucasian. Same thing applies with Cushitic people and Negroid people. Now accept these facts you BLM lover

 

[NA9]

Still doesn't divert from the fact that they're perceived as non-Black. Black doesn't mean anything other than what outsiders perceive you as.

And majority? Probably. But it's far from uncommon for people you and I would recognise as Somali to get mistaken for non-Black by others

Many Somalis are percieved as “black, but a different type of black”, including the lightskin ones.
Some Somalis may be viewed as otherwise, I agree.
We are diverse.
I feel like we are essentially saying the same thing.

 

[NA9]

You have no argument here. I'm simply using logic here and all your using is emotions since you're a Bantu sympathizer but like I said you before, Somalis and Cushitic people have nothing to do with Negroids when you check our DNA and phenotype, you cannot deny these facts therefore, we are not the same race but uniting each other based on skin colour is ridiculous because you don't see Europeans claiming white Mongoloids that live in Siberia.

These people are white too but they're not Caucasian. Same thing applies with Cushitic people and Negroid people. Now accept these facts you BLM lover

blablabla
You still black, my nigga:siilaanyolaugh:

 

[Emily]

She is a beautiful girl with a beautiful complexion

 

[The alchemist]

Obviously, because Black skin is almost exclusively found on the cursed continent. There has to be a buffer between races I suppose

So your argument is "people call me black, so i am black"? And in science there are no different races, only one race. Are you proud of that label, even though the connotations are clealy negative, derogatory, outdated, reductive or otherwise unrepresentative label. You are somali, not black. Blacks only used to define the people that had slave backgrounds, because the whites didn't care for their ethnicities or other aspects of their history.

Why do we feel the need to adopt other elements when we've always been content with ourselves? If a person came up to me, and asked "are you black?". Would i answer "Yes, im black because clearly my skin is dark", or "no im somali". The label black is used for bantus, and that is ok, no problem. But im not a bantu, so don't group me in the same category.

 

[Kodeen]

So your argument is "people call me black, so i am black"? And in science there are no different races, only one race. Are you proud of that label, even though the connotations are clealy negative, derogatory, outdated, reductive or otherwise unrepresentative label. You are somali, not black. Blacks only used to define the people that had slave backgrounds, because the whites didn't care for their ethnicities or other aspects of their history.

Why do we feel the need to adopt other elements when we've always been content with ourselves? If a person came up to me, and asked "are you black?". Would i answer "Yes, im black because clearly my skin is dark", or "no im somali". The lable black is used for bantus, and that is ok, no problem. But im not a bantu, so don't group me in the same category.

Relax yourself. I am in fact arguing with Angela Davis here @NA9 that not all Somalis are black.

Nigga what do you mean do I take pride in being Black? I consider myself Black? Kind of. Am I proud of it? f*ck no lol - once this tans-race movement picks up I'm switching teams.

It's preposterous to claim the girl in the original post isn't black though. She looks, sounds and acts black. Therefore she IS black. Black isn't based on biology

 

[Pureblood]

blablabla
You still black, my nigga:siilaanyolaugh: