Classical Arabic is the best language to ever exist

[cooli3o]

By the way my position has absolutely nothing to do with Somalis, idk why u guys are claiming I am trying to swap out Somali for Arabic, stop projecting your experience with ana arabs with me, this has nothing to do with that. All I am saying, is that Arabic is the best language, disagree if you want, but my position is strong, and If I ask any race of Muslim, they will agree with me

people on this forum have wild opinions

 

[cooli3o]

That is what you are asking, people abandon their God given language and challenge their Islam when they rightfully object

WHEN DID I EVER TELL ANYONE TO LEAVE SOMALI, GIVE ME 1 SENTENCE WHERE I HAVE ANYONE EVER TO STOP SPEAKING SOMALI, LITERALLY GIVE ME ONE TIME

you push only Arabic matters

when did I ever say this

Dude, we are Muslims for own benefit not that we give a f*ck about Arabs

When did I say I care about Arabs?
I care about the Arabic language.
Are you guys complete imbeciles, If I went to a white sheikh he would tell me Arabic is the best language
If I go to this forum, I get called and Arab bumlicker

there is no winning with you guys, you have too much trauma with ana arabs

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

By the way my position has absolutely nothing to do with Somalis, idk why u guys are claiming I am trying to swap out Somali for Arabic, stop projecting your experience with ana arabs with me, this has nothing to do with that. All I am saying, is that Arabic is the best language, disagree if you want, but my position is strong, and If I ask any race of Muslim, they will agree with me

people on this forum have wild opinions

Support your statement from a verse in the Quran or bring an Authentic Hadeeth that tells us Arabic is the Best Language. Muslims commonly respect Arabic and Arabs because of the Quran, and the Messenger. That respect is born out of Faith but not based on statements from the Quran or Hadeeth. Just a courtesy found among Non-Arab muslims. It makes sense to feel that as a Muslim but there is no religious basis for that. Prove me wrong with Evidence or run away to open yet another Ana Arab thread.

 

[cooli3o]

Ana Arab thread.

You have never seen me in an ana Arab thread you probably never read my posts because you would know I am nowhere close to ana Arab

Support your statement from a verse in the Quran or bring an Authentic Hadeeth that tells us Arabic is the Best Language. Muslims commonly respect Arabic and Arabs because of the Quran, and the Messenger. That respect is born out of Faith but not based on statements from the Quran or Hadeeth.

you do realise not everything is explicitly mentioned in Quran and hadeeth
The entire fiqh you follow was derived from Quran and hadeeth, if you study fiqh all the principles you find won't be mentioned anywhere explicitly in Quran and hadeeth, they are derived by scholars. Saying Arabic is the best language is just common sense, and you can ask your local sheikh this question and they will agree.

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

You have never seen me in an ana Arab thread you probably never read my posts because you would know I am nowhere close to ana Arab


you do realise not everything is explicitly mentioned in Quran and hadeeth
The entire fiqh you follow was derived from Quran and hadeeth, if you study fiqh all the principles you find won't be mentioned anywhere explicitly in Quran and hadeeth, they are derived by scholars. Saying Arabic is the best language is just common sense, and you can ask your local sheikh this question and they will agree.

Cooli3o

I pointed out that Muslims in General consider Arabic to be the best. It is the faith that instills such respect in them and I do not disagree with their feelings. With that said, respect born of faith is not the same as an Ethnic Arab challenging others to respect them because Quran is Arabic, that becomes an issue. And that is why I originally got involved in these threads. Hope I am bit clearer.

Forgive me for my insults towards you. May Allah forgive our ignorance and Guide us onto his straight and unbending path.

 

[cooli3o]

With that said, respect born of faith is not the same as an Ethnic Arab challenging others to respect them because Quran is Arabic

When did I ever say we have to respect Arabs??????????????????????

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

When did I ever say we have to respect Arabs??????????????????????

That was the Basis of Al-adnani argument. Yours was more about the language. Regardless. this sort of argument has no religious value. If supremacy of a language and ethnicity meant anything meaningful, Allah would have mentioned them both in his Quran. End of story.

 

[cooli3o]

That was the Basis of Al-adnani argument. Yours was more about the langauge. Regardless. this sort of argumetn has no religious value. If supremacy of langauge and ethnicity meant anythbing meaningful, Allah would ahve mentioned them both in his Quran. It is best to not waste a minute then on something that was not covered in Quran, and by extension in Authentic Hadeeths, This should never be a subject because it is NOT important as far as Islam is concerned.

Well our entire religion is Arabic, so it kinda does.

Anyway, I don't care, my opinion is Arabic is the best language and its kinda clear, that doesn't mean we get rid of our language thats stupid.

Also there are thousands of things that aren't mentioned in Quran and hadeeth that are important to us today, it all stems from important topics regarding our life and Islam.


In fact the most importance this has is for Arabs, I seen Arab sheikhs criticising their own Arabs for not speaking the original Arabic they used to speak and tainting it to the point of their modern dialects, to the point alot of Arabs can't even speak fusha now and their Arabic isn't even Arabic

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

Well our entire religion is Arabic, so it kinda does.

Anyway, I don't care, my opinion is Arabic is the best language and its kinda clear, that doesn't mean we get rid of our language thats stupid.

Also there are thousands of things that aren't mentioned in Quran and hadeeth that are important to us today, it all stems from important topics regarding our life and Islam.


In fact the most importance this has is for Arabs, I seen Arab sheikhs criticising their own Arabs for not speaking the original Arabic they used to speak and tainting it to the point of their modern dialects, to the point alot of Arabs can't even speak fusha now and their Arabic isn't even Arabic

I don't know, it seems a point of obsession for you that Arabic is the best. It seems unless you do not say that out loud so you can hear yourself, and others do not acknowledge, you feel offended or feel as if you are missing something. Islam is NOT about Arabic, it is about Towheed, charity, fasting, Jihad in the cause of Justice etc. You reduce an entire religion to Arabic. What is the message of the religion? language is the medium. Please, get a grip on yourself and study the objective of Islam. I don't care whether Quran is in Arabic or not, to me the Quran being Arabic has zero importance but the message of Islam matters as I am Non-Arab. You are the opposite and want to pick fights with other muslims on the subject, give it a rest dude. Most muslims have better things to do than compare languages and make a bone out of who agrees and disagrees with them, In someways, you seem obsessed with the idea. Why is that? You do realize you are antagonizing other muslims with your nonsensical issue? It is not in the Quran or Hadeeth I pointed out, so pelase, refrain from wasting other people's time on insignifcant issue.

 

[cooli3o]

I don't know, it seems a point of obsession for you that Arabic is the best

today is the only day I have ever mentioned it

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

today is the only day I have ever mentioned it

Well, you have an entire thread with several pages dedicated to the non issue subject. I asked you to check the Quran and Hadeeth for support so we can help you out with an agreement and then you be happy. You said that is based on inference and Fiqh. What sort of Fiqh cares about if Arabic is the best compared to other languages unless the Faqeeh wasting his time has nothing better to do in life? Like I said, it is the message of Islam that matters, not the language in of itself. The eloquence, the inimitability are all God's miracle and ability to convey the message of Islam to mankind. Don't lose the message whilst you are busy with insignificant matter.

Before the Quran, Arabic existed and its speakers were nothing but ignorant people engaged in tribal warfare, marrying their own blood, burying live infant girls etc. They were the worst of the worst, Arabic didn't help them live a dignified life, so Islam came and changed all of that. If that is not a clue to you saxib, I don't know. That islam is about message it carries that sways people not about linguistics, Allah can help you as he is Kind and merciful.

 

[Yami]

That is indeed beautiful sounding; Arabic is a very poetic language.

Are you an Arabic speaker?

Yk this language is macaan when even a Nilote admits it

 

[al-Mu'tamid المعتمد]

The bruty of Arabic



How did the prophet, the sahaba and the first three generations understand the Quran. You can't just take your understanding of the Quran., let's go back to the sunna.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: If a person regards as permissible that on which there is scholarly consensus that it is forbidden, or regards as forbidden that on which there is scholarly consensus that it is permitted, or he alters a law on which there is consensus, then he is a kaafir and apostate, according to the consensus of the fuqaha’.

Ibn Katheer (may Allah have mercy on him) said: The one who forsakes the law that was revealed to Muhammad ibn ‘Abd-Allah, the Seal of the Prophets (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and refers for judgement to any other law that has been abrogated, has committed an act of kufr, so how about the one who refers for judgement to al-Yaasa and gives it precedence? The one who does that is a kaafir according to the consensus of the Muslims.

“Eat not (O believers) of that (meat) on which Allaah’s Name has not been pronounced (at the time of the slaughtering of the animal), for sure it is Fisq (a sin and disobedience of Allaah). And certainly, the Shayaateen (devils) do inspire their friends (from mankind) to dispute with you, and if you obey them [by making Al‑Maytah (a dead animal) legal by eating it], then you would indeed be Mushrikoon (polytheists)”

[al-An‘aam 6:121].

Here Allah clearly states that they would be mushrikoon by obeying them. This is associating others with Allah in terms of obedience and following laws that are contrary to that which Allah has ordained

 

[cooli3o]

@ℑ𝔫𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔫𝔢𝔱 𝔑𝔬𝔪𝔞𝔡


i cant reply on the thread, but in response to you, there is a clear preference in lineage of some ppl, like the jews, and the Arabs.
Allah chose the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasalam to grow up in the best tribe

Wathilah ibn al-Asqa’ reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah chose Kinanah from the sons of Ishmael, he chose the Quraysh from Kinanah, he chose the tribe of Hashim from the Quraysh, and he chose me from the tribe of Hashim.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2276

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

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I will repeat this again, alot of guys here have some ana-arab trauma, and they are projecting it onto everything, Clearly Allah prefers some races over others, but this is due to piety mainly, there are additional things onto that which increase that. One person can be from the lineage of adulterers whereas the other can be a from all marriage, in actuality the marriage lineage is much better, but that does not mean the individual is better than the zina lineage just due to the fact, they are both judged on piety, but the one from a pure lineage is more likely to be religious and have better characteristics added onto his piety.

thats why all Prophets come from lineages without any zina

 

[Aurelian]

Some person in this forum is so stupid as to assert that just because our entire religion, the best religion to ever exist on this earth, with the best book from God, is in Arabic, does not make Arabic the best language.

This is what happens, when you go so deep in your inferiority complex, you cannot accept that your own religions language is better than your own language.

Every Muslim with a little bit of knowledge knows classical Arabic is the best most eloquent beautiful language, and it was used to give us the best most beautiful greatest book to ever exist, to even say that Arabic isn't the best language shows how misguided your logic is.

First of all no one said Arabic is better than any other language, not the Sahaba or the prophet.

Secondly, can you at even speak it?

 

[cooli3o]

First of all no one said Arabic is better than any other language, not the Sahaba or the prophet.

I don't know of any statement yet, but that doesn't mean they have never said it, and that isn't even my argument, most scholars of the past will say Arabic has a precedent over every other language by virtue of the fact Allah decided to reveal his last and best book in Arabic and his last and final messenger spoke Arabic

Secondly, can you at even speak it?

I am currently studying it under teachers. why is that relevant?

 

[Aurelian]

I don't know of any statement yet, but that doesn't mean they have never said it, and that isn't even my argument, most scholars of the past will say Arabic has a precedent over every other language by virtue of the fact Allah decided to reveal his last and best book in Arabic and his last and final messenger spoke Arabic



I am currently studying it under teachers. why is that relevant?

how you can judge the beauty of a language without studying or understanding it?

 

[cooli3o]

I am sick of talking about this topic, I don't care about Arabs and you guys are allergic with anything to do with Arabs. My entire post is about how Arabic is the best language which is the only thing you will here from both Arab and non-Arab sheikhs due to the religious virtue of it.

You guys can have your opinion, but please do not accuse me of being an Arab bootyclapper when I have one Arab(north african) friend and I do not even know anything about Arabs bc I could care less about them.
My opinion is a religious one, not a racial one, so if you are going to criticise me, do it based on my "lack" of religious evidence

 

[cooli3o]

how you can judge the beauty of a language without studying or understanding it?

This isn't about judging the beauty of language based on myself, If we had no Quran or sunnah, I wouldn't know what the best language is.
My argument does not stem from me arguing I studied it and concluded it was the best language, that would be completely stupid and ignorant.
My argument stems from the religious argument, in that God chose Arabic for his last and final scripture which is the best scripture and will be or every person of every nation and language until the day of judgement, it is the best book to ever exist on earth, and Allah chose Arabic for that book
its not far fetched to say Allah chose Arabic because it is the best language, or you could say the best language to convey Gods message