Century of humiliation

[caano_shaah]

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[cunug3aad]

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[SpaceyCadet]

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[Kulmis]

Blame this subhuman

 

[SpaceyCadet]

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what about the 30years after?

 

[suda51]

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youve been posting bullshit for the past 3 days

 

[caano_shaah]

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Its been 34 years since the collapse of his government, how much longer will yall keep using him as an excuse to avoid facing the harsh reality that the corrupt moryaans who took control of different parts of the country after him and refusing to put their differences aside is the reason for the country's stagnation?

 

[Kulmis]

youve been posting bullshit for the past 3 days

Says the kid who wrote a whole paragraph crying about ‘letting’ puntland and somaliland move on lmao

 

[Kulmis]

Its been 34 years since the collapse of his government, how much longer will yall keep using him as an excuse to avoid facing the harsh reality that the corrupt moryaans who took control of different parts of the country after him and refusing to put their differences aside is the reason for the country's stagnation?

The mooryaans taking over is his fault. Without him, they wouldn’t have even existed in the first place

 

[caano_shaah]

The mooryaans taking over is his fault. Without him, they wouldn’t have even existed in the first place

Ok and? What happened, happened. We cannot change what already happened. How much longer will we allow them to hold our future hostage over unsettled beef and differences that are now older than most Somalis that are alive today?

 

[kamek]

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They are only familiar with somali politics or Somalia, which is why they say things like that. I've been on different countries online spaces and they all say the same thing. Somalia has definitely seen progress since the 2000s.

 

[caano_shaah]

They are only familiar with somali politics or Somalia, which is they say this like that. I've been on different countries online spaces and they all say the same thing. Somalia has definitely seen progress since the 2000s.

Sure it improved but the progress is very slow and the reason for that is the rampant corruption in all parts of the country and constant political feud over past grievances, power, and qabyaalad.

 

[kamek]

Sure it improved but the progress is very slow and the reason for that is the rampant corruption in all parts of the country and constant political feud over past grievances, power, and qabyaalad.

I get your point you just didn't articulate it in the best way, very doomer-ish.

 

[caano_shaah]

I get your point you just didn't articulate it in the best way, very doomer-ish.

Yeah I know. Im just tired of it all. I'm imagining that there is an entire generation who grew up without the normal life that other children and teenagers have experienced in most countries around the world. A generation who lost their childhood and education if you will. Its frustrating that we allowed it to go on for this long.

 

[Momo7]

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[Jaffar]

Ok and? What happened, happened. We cannot change what already happened. How much longer will we allow them to hold our future hostage over unsettled beef and differences that are now older than most Somalis that are alive today?

Siad barre had a great resposibility because of the war because he waged a war to take back mogadishu after 1991 , i think this caused the destruction really though he is respoinsible for the state collapse because he said him self dal waan ka tegi laakin dad ka tegi mayo so he left the land and but not the people.

cali mahdi and cayddiid have a some blame to.

i think cali mahdi caydiid and siyad barre these 3 are resposinble for the total state collapse

 

[Som]

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Yes. Let's blame a guy who left Mogadishu in 1991 , left Somalia all together in 1992. I'm sure mooryaans who immediately started turning on each other , killing, robbing for the entire 90s have nothing to do with the state of the country.
It's ridiculous to blame Siad Barre even if you hate him. All those who opposed Siad had 35 years to get their shit together

 

[Som]

Siad barre had a great resposibility because of the war because he waged a war to take back mogadishu after 1991 , i think this caused the destruction really though he is respoinsible for the state collapse because he said him self dal waan ka tegi laakin dad ka tegi mayo so he left the land and but not the people.

cali mahdi and cayddiid have a some blame to.

i think cali mahdi caydiid and siyad barre these 3 are resposinble for the total state collapse

It's BS and you know this. Nobody forced Caydiid and Cali Mahdi to act like animals after for years after Siad left.
Siad left in 1992.
If you are honest you can't blame anything that happened after 1992 on Siad, even if you think he is indirectly responsible it's still dumb to put the majority of the blame on him and not on the people who pretty much physically destroyed our country. They had every opportunity to take power and fix things , they chose clan fighting instead

 

[Som]

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The main difference between us and everyone else is that no country has a complete government collapse.
During the entire 90s it was de facto anarchy and every man for himself, between 1997-2000 the government was officially vacant, nothing not even a fake powerless government. Things started to slowly improve around 2004ish and then 2010/2011. Overall Somalia had nothing you could seriously call a government from 1991 till the early 2000.
That's 10-15 years of chaos , countries like Congo Drc, Sudan, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan had bloodier wars but not such a long power vacuum.
I try to be balanced and TBH even if I dislike most Somali politicians the progress made in the last 15 years is remarkable if you just thinking about what Somalia was going through in the 90s and early 2000s

 

[caano_shaah]

The main difference between us and everyone else is that no country has a complete government collapse.
During the entire 90s it was de facto anarchy and every man for himself, between 1997-2000 the government was officially vacant, nothing not even a fake powerless government. Things started to slowly improve around 2004ish and then 2010/2011. Overall Somalia had nothing you could seriously call a government from 1991 till the early 2000.
That's 10-15 years of chaos , countries like Congo Drc, Sudan, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan had bloodier wars but not such a long power vacuum.
I try to be balanced and TBH even if I dislike most Somali politicians the progress made in the last 15 years is remarkable if you just thinking about what Somalia was going through in the 90s and early 2000s

Yeah I know. Its actually remarkable that we were able to rebuild a nation twice from scratch. Second time was after the US and Ethiopia overthrew the ICU government. Im just frustrated by the slow progression when we all know we are capable of much faster state building and development but held back by rampant corruption and political division based of qabyaalad.