Can someone add context to this picture

[Geeljire lotus]

https://x.com/cush110863351/status/1749814097280160064?s=46

Who is that ?

 

[Garaad diinle]

The man in the drawing is ugaas rooble ugaas faraax the ugaas of cisse in the the 19th century. That tradition is called cimaamad qaad and was how somalis would dethrone their leaders democratically and by doing a caleemo saar or mayrax saar they coronate their leaders.

The story behind the drawing is a long one and involves sharmarke ali saleh ugaas rooble and the french where ugaas rooble was accused by his fellow cisse clan members to handing over sharmarke ali saleh to the ferenjis hence why they dethroned him and instead chosed another leader/ugaas instead.

 

[Khaem]

The man in the drawing is ugaas rooble ugaas faraax the ugaas of cisse in the the 19th century. That tradition is called cimaamad qaad and was how somalis would dethrone their leaders democratically and by doing a caleemo saar or mayrax saar they coronate their leaders.

The story behind the drawing is a long one and involves sharmarke ali saleh ugaas rooble and the french where ugaas rooble was accused by his fellow cisse clan members to handing over sharmarke ali saleh to the ferenjis hence why they dethroned him and instead chosed another leader/ugaas instead.

Where are the sources to this? I wanna write a blog on the Ciise and hopefully get a kinglist of the Ugaas for the past some-800 years of the Ciise clan.

 

[Geeljire lotus]

The man in the drawing is ugaas rooble ugaas faraax the ugaas of cisse in the the 19th century. That tradition is called cimaamad qaad and was how somalis would dethrone their leaders democratically and by doing a caleemo saar or mayrax saar they coronate their leaders.

The story behind the drawing is a long one and involves sharmarke ali saleh ugaas rooble and the french where ugaas rooble was accused by his fellow cisse clan members to handing over sharmarke ali saleh to the ferenjis hence why they dethroned him and instead chosed another leader/ugaas instead.

Very interesting appreciate you answering sxb

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Where are the sources to this? I wanna write a blog on the Ciise and hopefully get a kinglist of the Ugaas for the past some-800 years of the Ciise clan.

Your people have had a ugaas for 800 years ?

 

[Sophisticate]

Your people have had a ugaas for 800 years ?

Northern Dirs have a long history of kingship: Cissa and Samaroon. I cannot speak for the others because I'm less familiar with them. From what I've noticed, they are not very loud about their history relative to others.

 

[Khaem]

Your people have had a ugaas for 800 years ?

We Ciise have the oldest kingship in Somaliweyn

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Northern Dirs have a long history of kingship: Cissa and Samaroon. I cannot speak for the others because I'm less familiar with them. From what I've noticed, they are not very loud about their history relative to others.

Yeah The northern dir have a strong culture mashallah they contributed a lot to somali history

 

[Sophisticate]

Yeah The northern dir have a strong culture mashallah they contributed a lot to somali history

They aren't known for being very vocal. In fact, most of those I come across in the diaspora are ignorant about qabil and historically unaware. On the bright side, they are some of the least qabilist, and the downside is many are content with their ignorance. @Arkan and @Khaemwaset are very much outliers.

 

[Khaem]

They aren't known for being very vocal. In fact, most of those I come across in the diaspora are ignorant about qabil and historically unaware. On the bright side, they are some of the least qabilist, and the downside is many are content with their ignorance. @Arkan and @Khaemwaset are very much outliers.

Me qabilist???
I promise you it was just that one thread.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

They aren't known for being very vocal. In fact, most of those I come across in the diaspora are ignorant about qabil and historically unaware. On the bright side, they are some of the least qabilist, and the downside is many are content with their ignorance. @Arkan and @Khaemwaset are very much outliers.

Really that’s interesting Compare that with reer mudug where taught our qabiils at birth by the time I was elementary school I was being taught my abtirsi

 

[Basra]

The man in the drawing is ugaas rooble ugaas faraax the ugaas of cisse in the the 19th century. That tradition is called cimaamad qaad and was how somalis would dethrone their leaders democratically and by doing a caleemo saar or mayrax saar they coronate their leaders.

The story behind the drawing is a long one and involves sharmarke ali saleh ugaas rooble and the french where ugaas rooble was accused by his fellow cisse clan members to handing over sharmarke ali saleh to the ferenjis hence why they dethroned him and instead chosed another leader/ugaas instead.

innocent days ma ha? Sinless days

 

[NidarNidar]

Me qabilist???
I promise you it was just that one thread. View attachment 312840

Don't worry bruddah we ain't coming for your dusty tuulo.

 

[Khaem]

Really that’s interesting Compare that with reer mudug where taught our qabiils at birth by the time I was elementary school I was being taught my abtirsi

I was only taught about the Ciise clan system being divided into 6 clans and 12 sub clans last summer by my dad when he saw me by that IM Lewis book. Aside from that I never learned a damn thing about clans except for online.

 

[Sophisticate]

Me qabilist???
I promise you it was just that one thread. View attachment 312840

You aren't qabilist, just aware and knowledgeable about your history. There is a clear difference. Haven't you noticed most Northern Dir kids you come across in the diaspora are clueless and don't even want to learn?
Everything to them is culturally surface level. Bedzalled umbrellas at weddings and canbabur during Eid. Khalas. They aren't even apt to learn their roots.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

I was only taught about the Ciise clan system being divided into 6 clans and 12 sub clans last summer by my dad when he saw me by that IM Lewis book. Aside from that I never learned a damn thing about clans except for online.

I did dhaqan Celis time that’s how I really learned so much along with talking with my father and grandfather alot of the historical sources I find about the region or my clan I run it by them

 

[Khaem]

You aren't qabilist, just aware and knowledgeable about your history. There is a clear difference. Haven't you noticed most Northern Dir kids you come across in the diaspora are clueless and don't even want to learn?
Everything to them is culturally surface level. Bedzalled umbrellas at weddings and canbabur during Eid. Khalas. They aren't even apt to learn their roots.

Ah thanks

And it's ture I seen people from Djibouti and they really do not care much about these things. Beyond the culture.

 

[Khaem]

I did dhaqan Celis time that’s how I really learned so much along with talking with my father and grandfather alot of the historical sources I find about the region or my clan I run it by them

I would've killed to get that first hand knowledge. Also both grandfathers were in the military during the late 50s and 60s so would've been cool to get stories out of them. Luckily I got a pic of my awoowe in a formation lifting the Djibouti flag in some old black and white photo.

 

[Arkan]

They aren't known for being very vocal. In fact, most of those I come across in the diaspora are ignorant about qabil and historically unaware. On the bright side, they are some of the least qabilist, and the downside is many are content with their ignorance. @Arkan and @Khaemwaset are very much outliers.

I was born backhome and was taught my identity so that could explain why I'm an outlier

 

[Garaad diinle]

Where are the sources to this? I wanna write a blog on the Ciise and hopefully get a kinglist of the Ugaas for the past some-800 years of the Ciise clan.

I don't know if i really wanna share the original story which was in essence a french propaganda account of what seems to be a kangaroo court. The so called account wasn't very flattering to the ugaas nor to somalis as a whole. That being said here is the book which originally featured the drawing in the tweet with some context.

Aden et le Golfe d'Aden

www.google.se

By the way i think the ones with the oldest continues ugaaship are the gurgure. They have like what more than 56 ugaas in their tradition. I don't even know when their ugaaship even began. Matter of fact is there even a somali with an abtirsi tree that counts as high as 50 names?