Can Somalia ever become first world within our generation?

[chronic]

Just a question I’ve been pondering with. Isn’t it sad knowing that our awoowe and ayeeyo’s won’t ever get to experience prosperity in Somalia before they die? Heck it could even be our parents. Sad to think about it.

 

[Erythrean]

Hmmm. First world.. perhaps we can steadily reach it but who knows? This century is a turning point of all mankind. Look at 1900-1950, last century. They progressed so much in such little time. All though we may not reach first world anytime soon lol. We can still progress our country enough that the Diaspora can come back, populate it and bring back their knowledge. So we can let them propel the country further.

 

[Osiris1]

In our lifetime? Almost impossible. We’ll need a miracle for that to happen.

 

[Erythrean]

In our lifetime? Almost impossible. We’ll need a miracle for that to happen.

I’d be aiming for being a country like Second world countries like Turkey. Where we’re still developing at a fast pace but not quite at First world yet.

 

[GemState]

No. Somalia & Sub-Saharan Africa will be extremely lucky to hit Upper Middle income (Current Brazil/Thailand) in my lifetime. There's a ceiling to what you can do by relying on agriculture/services.

The thing is, Real development & industrialization to get to a first world quality of life is overall, always a brutal and a disgusting process, and nations which refuse to go through that, ultimately become India. Which is where Africa will head in the future. No African State is strong/centralized enough to do what South Korea & China did and turn the population into slaves of the state to produce capital.

Industrialization in nearly all countries, worsened health, and wages did not increase at all for decades. Nobody would tolerate this slavery, and that is why blood was needed. Industrial development only gives back to workers after decades, and workers and peasants will constantly revolt, as in Japan and Korea until there is development.

Freedom is incompatible with Industrialization, you either need to brutalize your own people (USSR, China) or have colonies to brutalize and help you subsidize your own process (Japan).

 

[Fobnimo Till I Dhimo]

the 1977 war set us back it was the start of our downfall nothing will ever be possible until there's peace alshabaab is well aware of the fact that Somalia would progress faster if they didn't exist where there's peace everything is possible

 

[Erythrean]

No. Somalia & Sub-Saharan Africa will be extremely lucky to hit Upper Middle income (Current Brazil/Thailand) in my lifetime. There's a ceiling to what you can do by relying on agriculture/services.

The thing is, Real development & industrialization to get to a first world quality of life is overall, always a brutal and a disgusting process, and nations which refuse to go through that, ultimately become India. Which is where Africa will head in the future. No African State is strong/centralized enough to do what South Korea & China did and turn the population into slaves of the state to produce capital.

Industrialization in nearly all countries, worsened health, and wages did not increase at all for decades. Nobody would tolerate this slavery, and that is why blood was needed. Industrial development only gives back to workers after decades, and workers and peasants will constantly revolt, as in Japan and Korea until there is development.

Freedom is incompatible with Industrialization, you either need to brutalize your own people (USSR, China) or have colonies to brutalize and help you subsidize your own process (Japan).

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Sometimes I wish there was a dictator for Somalis that would beat them into shape and heavily punish any Qabil for stepping even a little out of line. What Somalis need is not kindness, but merciless and ruthless force

 

[JigjigaKismaayo]

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[JohnCena]

Yes. Somalia will become a world power one of these days

 

[Erythrean]

Yes. Somalia will become a world power one of these days

World power is unlikely. Let’s aim for Regional power and middle power worldwide for now.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

I hear xamar is one of the fastest growing cities and that’s with a shabaab presence. Once al shabaab is gone Somalia will be open to business internationally and more ppl will invest back home

 

[Barni]

Nah, there are some that hold the same qabilst ideas as the older generation, even within the diaspora:

 

[Ghengis Kaarhis]

 

[Smokybob03]

As our cousins in Djibouti say ; c’est fini.

 

[hippy60]

Get rid of kabab and all the idiots who work for them in the government then the Somali people might have a a chance .

 

[Internet Nomad]

Somali people are a wild card if we are able to use it correctly we could progress like china. Somalis are like the jews of Africa we are very business minded. Just take a look at somalis in Kenya and South Africa. We just need a stable environment and we will thrive. Think when Siad Barre made so many job programs to help fight desertification.

This is might be a controversial opinion but i believe if Somalia scrapped the military like japan and had a contract with a close ally to protect our country until we have the situation under wraps.Rn somalis do not need weapons because it seems to only escalate the situation.

Also we have to remove that ghastly qabil system

 

[Internet Nomad]

Sometimes I wish there was a dictator for Somalis that would beat them into shape and heavily punish any Qabil for stepping even a little out of line. What Somalis need is not kindness, but merciless and ruthless force

1 good dictator is worth a 1000 democracies - Kanye West

 

[johnsepei5]

Nah, there are some that hold the same qabilst ideas as the older generation, even within the diaspora:

British Somalis have developed a modern approach to qabil its almost taboo to talk about qabil in London if you talk about qabil you get strange looks and gasps,I think you mean Minnesota diaspora

 

[Somali Saayid]

We need a strong centralized government. Federalism is not the key. We need a strongman who will push the limits for the Somali State.

 

[Basra]

Just a question I’ve been pondering with. Isn’t it sad knowing that our awoowe and ayeeyo’s won’t ever get to experience prosperity in Somalia before they die? Heck it could even be our parents. Sad to think about it.

Forget about your awoowe and ayeeeyo not being alive to experience prosperity- your a$$ and your great great great grand children wont either