Those dwarfs are so strange. I canβt differentiate them from south asians in terms of looks tbh
Cadcad banaadiri tiktoker claims somali ports were Arab led centres and changed into Somali.
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ik a reer xamar family that refuse to speak somali or be friends with somalis they just speak arabic lmao meanwhile they look Pakistani
Arent these cadcads the refugees of Somalia looolView attachment 362356
Ngl yo I think this one was the funniest, asked him for primary sources and he just said itβs him.
Some actual claim oman and saudi like the tanzanians ive seen itImagine flexing being from Yemen....
if I were to claim Arab, I'd be claiming those rich ass Khaleejis, not gaajo desert rats who marry kids
Anyway, who cares what those langaabs think, as long as they are neverrr given any type of power, we're good. All they can do is seethe on TikTok
Oh, and they're not Arabs, they're Pajeets. LOL.
No hate to Cad Cads lakin why are they never proud of their Pakistani/ Indian heritage, but always cling to carabnimo? Wasn't too long ago when i came across a vid of a Cad Cad woman that had more South Asian and Persian DNA than Carab 
She couldn't believe the results
Carab inaa ahay aan moodi jiray kulaha shit made me qosol hard Ilaahay ha iga cafiyo
She couldn't believe the resultsCarab inaa ahay aan moodi jiray kulaha shit made me qosol hard Ilaahay ha iga cafiyo
You guys need to chill with the Cadcad hate train. Theyβre not all the same. Some of them are quite blessed.
Crying in their comment section makes us look bitter. Educate Somalis with real history instead. We are confident in ourselves so there's no need to entertain them.
Love this brudda here always represented us on the global stage
Crying in their comment section makes us look bitter. Educate Somalis with real history instead. We are confident in ourselves so there's no need to entertain them.
Love this brudda here always represented us on the global stage
People correcting them and stopping others from believing the misinformation theyβre spreading isnβt βcrying in their comment sectionβ
My moms bestie is cadcad & her son was the biggest anti Somali woman nigga ever tell me why he married an ethnic somali girl recently
99% of those comments were just Go back to Yemen, you're not Somali. Short emotional outbursts. Embarrassing the community by getting triggered over a video
Why are you guys even in their space? Let them spread their misinformation, educate your own people instead.
Itβs them using generic somali hashtags trying to get attention from us, not the other way around.
Their recent social media behaviour is just them lashing out at somalis for studying and educating eachother about their own history, instead of peddling their made up stuff. Itβs them trolling, threatening and harrassing the likes of Hanan etc.
but youβre right they should be ignored.
Idilinaa
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I actually debated someone about this a few months ago and broke down the makeup of the Reer Xamar clans. A lot of people try to erase their history, and many Somalis are unaware because they mistakenly believe "Reer Xamar" refers only to groups with partial Arab ancestry. In reality, it's an umbrella term for the townspeople of Mogadishu , the majority of whom have deep Somali agro-pastoral roots and long-established lineages in the region.
The confederacy collectively called Reer Xamar are founded by core pastoral lineages. Which migrants later married into and joined. As you have shown from Murshow 5 out of the 7 lineages claim Ajuran or Abdalla Dayle and the two rest are Somali clans with immigrant paternal roots that married into them.
And Amin Khalafow is the Hawiye clan that founded the Bandawow confederacy, has nothing to do with sicilis which is connected to Abgaal. They are connected to a town in the upper levels of shabelle river called Qalafo in Ogaden and settled in Mogadishu during the towns founding.
It shows the towns connection to the interior and the production around the shabelle zone.
As for Murusola gate named after Murusade proves their importance in controlling that caravan trade route leading up to the town and how the inclusion of them in the towns inhabitants shows that the earliest inhabitants are just those people who set up on the coast as an exchange outlet for the interior. Mogadishu is commercial town after all. Not really that much different from the formation of the Eastern coastal settlements, other than ecology.
There other benadiri clans i have mentioned before like Shaykh Mummin who controlled the caravan route from Luuq/Buur Hakaba & to Mogadishu. There is also the Sheikhaal clan etc.
Only Saddex Geedi, Hirab/Yacuub are clans that arrived recently post 1500 according local traditions as Abgaal clans. and guess what just like the other older clans i mentioned, immigrants married into Yacuub and created Bafadal. So you have, Saddex Geddi, Yacoub and then also Bafadal Somali clans.
What you mentioned is really important , Greek and Roman writings confirm that the Somali coast has been continuously inhabited by native populations who followed consistent ways of life for centuries. Later on archeological substantiated it.
From Zayla to Kismaayo, the entire coastline is dotted with indigenous coastal villages and historic port towns. At no point in history did any part of the coast become a foreign enclave dominated by outsiders. These have always been Somali lands with deep-rooted cultural and historical continuity.
The coast was not some empty space waiting to be βdiscoveredβ by foreigners. It was already home to thriving, organized, and inhabited by Somali communities long before any outside presence.
Even in the Rasulid writings and other early Islamic manuscripts, they often referred to the coastal inhabitants as Habash, Sudan or Barbar to distinguish them from Arab populations. The southern Somali coast was even called ''Bar al-Ajam'' , the βLand of Non-Arabic Speakers.β Interestingly, this is also how Somalis historically referred to their own lands.
Ibn Battuta remains the most credible source, being a direct eyewitness who actually visited and stayed in Mogadishu. He described the Somali coast from Zayla to Mogadishu as inhabited by Barbars , Black-skinned Shafi'i Muslims. He notes their pastoral lifestyle: owning many sheep, goats, and camels, and even mentions Mogadishu's mass slaughtering of hundreds of camels daily. He documents their clothing style , wrapping robes around their shoulders and waist , and even includes Somali vocabulary like the word Caamba (mango). He also describes the Abaan system and refers to the sultan as being βBarbar in origin.β
This gives us a vivid and clear native Somali portrait of the city, strongly connected to the wider Somali cultural and economic landscape.
Whatβs also worth noting is how Ibn Battuta clearly separates Mogadishu from the Swahili coast. For instance, he describes Kilwa as a distinct coastal enclave that raided the interior, whereas Mogadishu was integrally tied to its Somali hinterland.
Thereβs no real racial component here, despite attempts to politicize identity. The Somali coast isnβt some empty land discovered by outsiders , itβs part of a long-standing agro-pastoral system.
The southern coast, though dry, functioned as a vital commercial outlet for inland Somali producers in the fertile interior, linked through trade caravans and kinship networks.
There is not many immediate resources in Mogadishu or on the Benadiri coast in general, early on no one except producers from far interior or the hinterland would settle there and use it as an exchange center for their products. Whether they be agro-cultivators or camel herders.
People who lived in the hinterland of Mogadishu weren't all simple camel herding nomads either, a lot of them were settled agro-pastoralists living in a number of farming villages near/along the banks of the shabelle river. Each village inhabited by 200 people.
The earliest mentions of Mogadishu/Merca in medieval sources paints the same picture, connecting it to it's hinterland and describing the 50 villages along the banks of the river.
This is also supported by archeological excavations in Afgoye, that shows that the agricultural town pre-dates Mogadishu. The economic developments in the hinterland directly led to the formation, settlement and development of the urban towns on the coast.
Note that there other interior commercial urban towns(most now abandoned) along caravan routes, the oldest surviving of them being the walled city of Lugh. Benadiri Reer Shaykh Mumin clan is one example that is interspersed between the camel caravan trade routes that links to Lugh(Interior city) and Bur Hakaba(Agricultural center) from the coast of Mogadishu(Coastal City) and commanded it.
''The town depended on the grain brought by camels from the Galadi(Shabelle) River''
Migration happened, yes , but it was two-way. In fact, Somalis often migrated outward to settle abroad, and were even credited in various foreign sources with introducing crops like coffee, new fruits, and irrigation technologies like cisterns.
Thatβs why you find references to Al-Zayla, Al-Jabarti, Al-Maqdishi , even Al-Sumal and Al-Daroodi(In Oman) , scattered throughout medieval and early modern Asia, North Africa, and the Middle East.
The current identity divide is largely self-inflicted. Because some coastal families have partial ancestry from Southwest Asia or Arabia, theyβve internalized a sense of exceptionalism, imagining or exaggerating differences that donβt really exist. Hence, them trying to invent a separate βBenadiriβ identity or culture. But when you look closely, there is no historical, linguistic, or social basis for separating the southern coast from the rest of Somalia.
Even Barawa which was a a cultural center in it's own right , had its own dialect of Somali spoken within the city, distinct from the Tunni dialect of the inland areas. This shows that it was, and always had been, a Somali city governed under the guurti system.
And all of this is unraveling now, because contemporary sources for periods are easily accessible. Anyone can go back and read how Mogadishu was described and itβs clear, it was always perceived as a Somali city.
They donβt even mention that many of the graves in Mogadishu donβt carry a nisba , which clearly indicates they belonged to natives. A nisba is typically used to show where someone comes from if theyβre from another town or country. If you're born and buried in your own city, there's no need for one.
Not only that, but some of these native graves also have names inscribed using Somali calendar references ,further proof they were local Somalis, not foreign migrants.
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Nigga why mentioning me
I sometimes come across trolls online who will attempt to use the Himyarite rule over parts of East Africa as proof that "Arabs" founded or ruled over the ancient Somali coast but even that is plainly false. See this twitter as an example. (He got debunked pretty quickly)
Every instance of tying Somalia to foreign rule falls flat in the face of evidence that shows Somaliweyn was a thriving, independent land.
Indeed. There was a Muslim writer whos name I forgot but trolls like to quote his description of Mogadishu being full of foreigners. That in itself of course isn't proof that it was founded by non-Somalis because he says it right there, they are foreigners, not natives. Its not so strange for a cosmopolitan port town like medieval Mogadishu to have lots of foreigners living hence why something like the Shingani quarter isn't a gotcha like the typical crowd thinks, but an admission that local Somalis accepted migrants and built them their own quarter. Similar to literally every major port town from Venice to Alexandria.
That is the other thing. Kilwa along with other Swahili settlements have oral history and stories of Arabs and Persians mass migrating and creating their civilization or at the very least, influencing it immensely in a direct manner. Somali cities have no such traditions whatsoever despite clans considering themselves descendants of Prophet Muhammad's family.
Then how can they claim those graves are Arab/Persian? Is it simply a guess pulled out of their ass? No genetic testing or nisba available for them.
Idilinaa
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The narrative about the Himyarites or other foreigners founding Somali coastal towns actually originates from a late 19thβearly 20th century text called ''Kitab al-Zunuj,'' which has long been discredited.
Most serious scholars dismiss the accounts in that book because there are no supporting medieval sources or archaeological evidence to back its claims.
I saw one of them share this:
Iβve seen people online try to cite it or similar myths , like the Shirazi or Persian influence , but those ideas were mostly borrowed from Swahili coastal traditions and then projected onto Somalis.
But if you look at the actual oral traditions from the locals and how they trace their ancestry and lineage, a story like that doesn't exist.
Thatβs because the Swahili coast functioned more like an enclave , even if someone had ancestry from the mainland, they often tried to disconnect themselves from interior populations to emphasize their foreign links.
In contrast, Somalis always maintained strong clan ties, kinship, and lineage directly to the interior. The coastal cities were simply extensions of inland Somali society, not separate or foreign-founded entities.
You mean Yaqut al-Hamawi ,but he actually says the opposite of what those trolls claim. He explicitly states that the coast is inhabited by black Berbers and names Marka as their capital. Like, word for word, he wrote: 'Marka is a town that belongs to the Barbars of the Black.'
He also describes Mogadishu as being situated on the mainland of the Barbar, calling them a tribe of Bedouins. He even notes that the Barbar allowed newcomers to settle among them , a clear indication that they were the indigenous majority and had the authority to accommodate migrants
Yaqut also describes the Guurti system , the clan council , saying they were governed by groups of elders or sheikhs, and that each clan had its own sheikh. Thatβs a deeply Somali socio-political system that still exists today.
And about Shingani , it was never an exclusive migrant quarter. The name is actually relatively recent and it emerged as a new business district. The older historical quarters were Xamar Weyne and Xamar Jajab, which were deeply tied to indigenous Somali urban lineage founding tranditions.
There is someone a who shared excerpts from Ayadarus documentation of oral traditions and local religious authorities in Mogadishu speak about this. . They speak directly about the Somali roots of Xamar Jajab , tracing it back to the Somali patriarch Hill and the founding story of the man on the red camel, which ties into deep, indigenous Somali oral memory.
People donβt actually claim that all the graves are Arab or Persian , they just highlight the few that have a nisba like al-Shirazi, al-Hijazi, or al-Naysaburi. But ironically, those nisbas only prove that these individuals were not native to Mogadishu , they were foreigners who came for trade or scholarship, which the city was already famous for. And these graves donβt even predate the cityβs established local history because they are all dated to the 13th century or later.
Itβs like me pointing to graves in Hijaz or Cairo that carry names like Al-Jabarti or Al-Zayla and then claiming that Somalis founded those cities. It doesnβt work that way. The nisba simply marks where someone ''came from'', not who founded the place."
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The spiteful bahal was clearly obsessed with Somali women, men don't obsess over women they are not fixated by. Never trust a man saying he 'hates' a woman or group of women, it means they live in his mind, rent-free.
My moms bestie is cadcad & her son was the biggest anti Somali woman nigga ever tell me why he married an ethnic somali girl recently
Because when you see a man constantly talking about a group of women, and calling them 'ugly', it means he's obsessed.
Men are simple creatures, they don't talk about people or topics they are not fixated by.
No hate to Cad Cads lakin why are they never proud of their Pakistani/ Indian heritage, but always cling to carabnimo? Wasn't too long ago when i came across a vid of a Cad Cad woman that had more South Asian and Persian DNA than Carab
It's obvious that they are mostly Hindi with Bantu DNA, at best, some Yemeni or something. They exaggerated their Arab DNA, to get some brownie points from the Arab trade, and also due to their own sick caste systems.
I am warning Somali sisters not to marry into these families if you can help it. Unless maybe his family is mostly Somali or at least his mother is, AND there are other benefits involved.
The colourism and Somali hatred is very real. And don't forget, they are benefiting from you injecting your DNA into their gene-pool. Just like the long list of Somali ayeeyos and awoowes that contributed to their gene pool, and are awarded with this delusional disrespect. You will be dealing with his extended family, and you don't need drama and culture clash nonsense. Or end up as the Somali ayeeyo, they hide in the armaajo, sucked dry of her genes and then disrespected.
Sexual obsession is NOT love. Plenty of men are attracted to women they don't like or respect.
Why be disrespected by some self-hating Hindi, when you can get a handsome Somali man.
The colourism and Somali hatred is very real. And don't forget, they are benefiting from you injecting your DNA into their gene-pool. Just like the long list of Somali ayeeyos and awoowes that contributed to their gene pool, and are awarded with this delusional disrespect. You will be dealing with his extended family, and you don't need drama and culture clash nonsense. Or end up as the Somali ayeeyo, they hide in the armaajo, sucked dry of her genes and then disrespected.
Sexual obsession is NOT love. Plenty of men are attracted to women they don't like or respect.
Why be disrespected by some self-hating Hindi, when you can get a handsome Somali man.
I remember seeing one of these people once, I think she claimed Ashraaf or CadCad or something. Anyway, one day she said her people have their own language. I asked her how she said 'how are you' in her language.. she responded with 'See Titi'.
I said, "That's just Af-Soomaali with another pronunciation!"
She of course denied it, she thinks this is their 'special language' and her people are from a place called Hadramaut. More like Hyderabad. We are dealing with mass-delusion here.
I said, "That's just Af-Soomaali with another pronunciation!"
She of course denied it, she thinks this is their 'special language' and her people are from a place called Hadramaut. More like Hyderabad. We are dealing with mass-delusion here.
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