Caare soldiers, Daalo branch,Sanaag

[DR OSMAN]

You clearly don't understand inter-isaaq dynamics. We fought an entire civil war over the port and we are willing to do it again 10 times over.

Same way Ciidagale were willing to die for Hargeisa airport.

Don't lecture me about topics I am well versed in.

Your lucky you have Garhajis living with ya, no other somali clan would sit by idly having a national infrastructure built by somalis now being claimed by a clan and on top of that refusing the majority of your population a presidential seat for 30 years since 93 because you fear they are 'pro somali wayn'. Thank your lucky stars because any other somali clan would fight cause if they don't it means other clans secure power and build themselves and arm themselves better while your clan dies away into extinction.

 

[DR OSMAN]

And @DR OSMAN a much better analogy would be to compare garxajis to Ogadeen and HG not MJ.

Imho MJ are urban, highly organized clan that dominate the regions they live in which gives them political leverage. HA and Abgaal play the same role within Isaaq and Hawiye.

There is a reason Cigaal, Adan Cadde and Abdirashid came from Habar Awal, Abgaal and MJ and not GX, OG or HG.

That's mainly due to those clans establishing themselves early on through colonialism and why those clans are called dabo dhilifs by other somali clans. They used to allocate all funds, arms, political training to their own clans while the other clans were not represented either because those clans were not supportive of colonialism(which I would be one if taken back to the past because we inherited this mess from colonialism and it's system and division and competition on power). That's the only reason why till today they are considered the 'rulers' of darod-hawiye-isaaq respectively.

 

[Cumar]

That's mainly due to those clans establishing themselves early on through colonialism and why does clans are called dabo dhilifs by other somali clans.

Precisely.

If you ask me personally based on my knowledge of history and time in SL i think GX were definitely larger than us 110 years or so ago. But due to urbanization it is much closer now.

I'd say something like this breakdown is close to the truth.

35% HA
-32% SM
-3% CM
35% GX
-30%HY
-5% CG
20% HJ
7% Arap
3% Ayub+ others

 

[DR OSMAN]

Precisely.

If you ask me personally based on my knowledge of history and time in SL i think GX were definitely larger than us 110 years or so ago. But due to urbanization it is much closer now.

I'd say something like this breakdown is close to the truth.

35% HA
-32% SM
-3% CM
35% GX
-30%HY
-5% CG
20% HJ
7% Arap
3% Ayub+ others

Urbanization problem is only one thing. If urban areas are large why isn't their economic contribution large in terms of what they contribute to the GDP? Ports and Airports do not contribute much on their own, if all goods and people disappeared they would be useless. So why is it your largest economic contributor is the Garhajis and his camels? If he is your largest economic contributor he is also your largest clan is pretty basic logic.

 

[Theyuusuf]

The mighty harti state of puntland with all its money, local support and and well armed forces could not manage to liberate one village from the iidooor invaders . What makes you think garxajis can take over 6 regions to change the whole system .

On the paper the great somaliland is from lawyo caddo to yoocada. But in reality the real Somaliland is between berbera to wajaale. In other words I have to agree with Cumar as long as Habar Awal is thriving somaliland is unbreakable other habros contribute less to the economy and there is less national assets in the east.

 

[Cumar]

Urbanization problem is only one thing. If urban areas are large why isn't their economic contribution large in terms of what they contribute to the GDP? Ports and Airports do not contribute much on their own, if all goods and people disappeared they would be useless. So why is it your largest economic contributor is the Garhajis and his camels? If he is your largest economic contributor he is also your largest clan is pretty basic logic.

Your logic worked in 1918 not so much in 2018.

Most of the big money private business in SL nowadays is those who work in import business serving Ethiopian market. They gulf anything collecfed by the government. If you don't believe me go to Wajaale where millions of US dollars trades hands every hour.

The problem is they don't pay much tax if it all that is why you don't see any benefit to the government. Most of these guys are Sacad Muuse. Guys like Ina Omaar, Ina Aw Siciid etc are all Sacad Muuse.

 

[Bohol]

Bro check Google maps. Hargeisa is overcrowded af and is densely populated. That's why the roads are crumbling, It's basically a city with the public resources meant for less than half a million tops while it's population is probably double that.

One subclan of HA inhabits all this land there's no way we ain't the largest.

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North of the black line corresponding to the dry river is HA dominated North Hargeisa
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lol what is with the fake line? there is no single HA in eastern Hargeisa. Meanwhile north eastern is mainly Gabooye and Cisse Muse.

 

[Cumar]

lol what is with the fake line? there is no single HA in eastern Hargeisa. Meanwhile north eastern is mainly Gabooye and Cisse Muse.

Tbh I didn't make the map and I didn't mean to claim Daami area which is indeed Gabooye. But SM and CM is mixed especially in boqol iyo kontonka which is SM and CM mixed hood. Same with Laba Nuux (NI are not majority there anymore), and Sheikh madar. It is like CG moving in with HY, just family at the end of the day. Some Mikaahiil also live in Cabaaye as well in Gacan Libaax.

 

[Bohol]

Tbh I didn't make the map and I didn't mean to claim Daami area which is indeed Gabooye. But SM and CM is mixed especially in boqol iyo kontonka which is SM and CM mixed hood. Same with Laba Nuux (NI are not majority there anymore), and Sheikh madar. It is like CG moving in with HY, just family at the end of the day. Some Mikaahiil also live in Cabaaye as well in Gacan Libaax.

Indeed. Furthermore New Hargeisa & Axmed Macalin Haarun districts are massive (HY districts). It consists from south:Shiraaqle behind the seasonal river to the north: Axmed Macalin Haruun which is the Naaso Hablood area, to the west near the suuq (the theatre owned by Cumar Caydiid which is the area when you enter New Hargeisa) to the far east (Hodan Hills and Kaah area). I own lands in eastern Hargeisa so I know it very well. Then to the north west you have Daami (the Madhibaan suburb). 150ka is above Daami. Most HA and HY neighborhoods in Hargeisa don't even share a border as the Madhibaan live in between them.

 

[waraabe]

Everyone knows HY are largest clan in Somaliland. If they pull out completely, which they haven't cuz a large faction of them are still loyal to 'jeegaan', it's simply over for Somaliland. There is no Somaliland, so keep laughing at their divisions now, but if they hold that garhajis conference, it's similar to abgaal holding a conference on mogadishu.

Since when do dhabacy0 bumlick HY lol, you will suck off a hy just to get tukaraq back, I urge HY bradas to take advantage of the desperate dhabacy0

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Soon they will ambush jeegan bases