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Brother Tate has been freeed!!!!!
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Me and @Sueeeeeee have a Greta Thunberg matching t-shirts and also cry together while watching ex on the beachstop lying me and you have matching Andrew Tate shirts
So, he bragged himself into handcuffs it seems:
Police alleged the victims were "recruited" by the British citizens, who they said had misrepresented their intention to enter into a relationship with the victims - which it called "the loverboy method".
They were later forced to perform in ographic content under threat of violence, the statement alleged.
Andrew Tate: Romanian police to hold influencer for 30 days - BBC News
The controversial influencer is detained in an investigation into rape and human trafficking.
www.bbc.co.uk
What he does/did is literally 101 trafficking. It’s evil. Most traffickers pretend to the boyfriend/friend of the girls they sell.
To think that so many Muslim men are making dua for him and are insulting and gaslighting Muslim women when we tell them. We are fast becoming a joke of a community that will support anyone that talks about ‘being the man’ and ‘beating women’.
His website. He deleted it though. The BBC found it and quoted it now. That fool bas practically bragged his way into handcuffs.
Yes, I was asking when it was from, though. I was wanting to know whether it was there before or after he said he became Muslim (or before and after).
Doesn’t change much since it’s a sin with victims.
If I abuse you, I’ll need your forgiveness as well.
if there's any example of karma it would be thisI was responding to this post from World: "It’s not in the past if he boasts about his prostitution trafficking past in which he turned his girlfriends to wh0res on his website so he can deceive men into buying his course. If a murderer became a Muslim, gloats about killing people afterwards and is arrested for murder, would you be saying the same thing?"
it does make a lot of difference in terms of whether the analogy holds up.
also... I think it was Umar Ibn Al Khattab who used to persecute Muslims prior to his conversion... if we condemn people based on what you say, by that logic I think we'd also condemn Umar Ibn Al Khattab.... I guess maybe you'll say it's different, maybe you will say Umar sought forgiveness from the victims... but this principle- do you have a source for this principle that we should judge new Muslims based on their pre-Islam behavior?
I don't want to press the issue, I don't think you have any source for this principle and I would like simply to stay to the subject of the question I asked. if I'm wrong and you really have a source for the principle, then I apologize. but if you claim to have a source for it, I think it will not be the words of any scholar and will be your own deduction from one of the texts (Quran or Sunnah), a new interpretation.
honestly... I think a whole new principle has been invented by some people in response to the Andrew Tate thing... I have never heard of condemning a new Muslim based on their pre-Islamic past- and I don't think this has ever been a thing in Islam... this thing of casually inventing new principles disturbs me....
I personally am suspicious of Tate and I have never been a Tate fan and I advise people not to listen to him... but we don't need to add new principles into the religion
I personally am suspicious of Tate and I have never been a Tate fan and I advise people not to listen to him... but we don't need to add new principles into the religion
btw he mentioned he has 33 cars in the tweet to Greta Thunberg.... 33 is a number very commonly associated with Freemasonry.... between that and some hand gestures I've seen since his supposed conversion.... I personally think he is probably a Freemason... even so, Andrew Tate will come and go.... there is no reason to invent a new principle where someone who becomes a Muslim gets condemned based on their pre-Islamic past
Murdered someone and then repented in Islam
Explore the complex relationship between repentance and the act of murder in Islam. This webpage delves into the Islamic understanding of Tawba (repentance) for serious sins, particularly the implications of killing someone. While many scholars agree that sincere repentance can lead to Gods...
www.islamweb.net
It’s a pretty well known fact. Islam is a religion that actually cares about the victims. Do you honestly think that someone can r-word your daughter, or rob you or kill your loved ones and because they’ve been forgiven by Allah there is no punishment or seeking additional forgiveness.
How would society function?
You do know that if someone kills, robs, r-words ect, they may be forgiven my Allah, but the rights of the victims doesn’t disappear?
This fatwa makes it clear and outlines that when it comes to sins with victims, it isn’t clear cut:
Murdered someone and then repented in Islam
Explore the complex relationship between repentance and the act of murder in Islam. This webpage delves into the Islamic understanding of Tawba (repentance) for serious sins, particularly the implications of killing someone. While many scholars agree that sincere repentance can lead to Gods...
www.islamweb.net
I think you should wait until you start writing paragraphs based on your own opinions:
Murdered someone and then repented in Islam
Explore the complex relationship between repentance and the act of murder in Islam. This webpage delves into the Islamic understanding of Tawba (repentance) for serious sins, particularly the implications of killing someone. While many scholars agree that sincere repentance can lead to Gods...
www.islamweb.net
Murdered someone and then repented in Islam
Explore the complex relationship between repentance and the act of murder in Islam. This webpage delves into the Islamic understanding of Tawba (repentance) for serious sins, particularly the implications of killing someone. While many scholars agree that sincere repentance can lead to Gods...
It’s a pretty well known fact. Islam is a religion that actually cares about the victims. Do you honestly think that someone can r-word your daughter, or rob you or kill your loved ones and because they’ve been forgiven by Allah there is no punishment or seeking additional forgiveness.
no, no- that is a completely different topic. where has any scholar laid out this issue of condemning new Muslims based on their pre-Islamic past.
this is serious. we can't make these kind of wild deductions. where has any scholar talked about condemning new Muslims based on their pre-Islamic past?
if this is really part of Islam- there should be a name for it, there should be guidelines. do we condemn new Muslims who were murderers, prostitutes, pagans? which specific sins? what are all the guidelines, what is it called in Arabic and what scholar talked about this?
I think you should wait until you start writing paragraphs based on your own opinions:
Murdered someone and then repented in Islam
Explore the complex relationship between repentance and the act of murder in Islam. This webpage delves into the Islamic understanding of Tawba (repentance) for serious sins, particularly the implications of killing someone. While many scholars agree that sincere repentance can lead to Gods...
again this is a completely different subject.
also come to think of it... Malcolm X was a pimp and violent criminal prior to Islam according to his autobiography... there are tons of people throughout history with questionable pasts who became Muslim... if this thing of condemning new Muslims based on those pasts was a real thing there should be writings from scholars that go into detail on the topic specifically of condemning new Muslims and the guidelines of condemning new Muslims
also btw I don't mean new Muslims aren't legally liable or liable in the sight of Allah for crimes involving victims... but I've never heard of condemning new Muslims for their past... the way it's worked throughout history is someone becomes a Muslim and no one really cares about that person's past... besides maybe the issue of legal liability (I'm not using "condemn" in the legal sense of "he was condemned to death by hanging" but "condemn" as in "as Kanye's former associate, I condemn his antisemitic statements")...
this is why for example I don't think anyone here has heard of Muslims condemning Malcolm X for his past... or in general, new Muslims for their pre-Islamic past in history prior to Andrew Tate as far as I'm aware... the only exception I'm aware of is some people saying derogatory things about people who became Muslims in prison but that is more of a casual thing and people don't generally pretend it's really part of the dīn
this is why for example I don't think anyone here has heard of Muslims condemning Malcolm X for his past... or in general, new Muslims for their pre-Islamic past in history prior to Andrew Tate as far as I'm aware... the only exception I'm aware of is some people saying derogatory things about people who became Muslims in prison but that is more of a casual thing and people don't generally pretend it's really part of the dīn
