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[Aurelian]

You tell me. It doesn’t make sense to me at all Wallahi and it’s something I’ve grappled with. What’s the point of Khula and giving back the Mehr if it’s the still the husband’s call at the end of the day?

Khula refers to the husband issuing his wife divorce in exchange of returning the mahr or some monetary exchange. Khula is valid only if the husband consents to the khula.

Is Khula valid without husbands consent - IslamQA

This question is related to one of my close friends. He got married and their marriage lasts for 7 years. Both husband and wife were working and however, at that time wife was earning a little more

islamqa.org

Islamqa also has a similar view. But they do note that the Islamic judge can compel him if they see fit.

So all in all, even Khula isn’t a way in which a woman can truly get divorced. It’s in fact a double loss since it’s the same as a talalq but the man can take her Mehr and even additional wealth.

I don’t understand the logic and only Allah knows best.

that site is wahabbi site. Don't take their views as face value.

 

[Ozymandias]

I've always wondered about this as well.

What's the point of living with someone who doesn't love and want to live with you?

Just ask for a reason and if it doesn't work out then cut her off or things could get ugly as they'll hate you even more.

There's no need for negativity like that, life should be fun and vibrant

 

[Aurelian]

Hating your husband without a reason or an explanation does not grant a woman the right to divorce in Islam. What if she is on a cycle or has hormone imbalances due to stress, bad diet, lack sleep… etc

But the husband can come back on evening and divorce his wife.

The husband doesn't need any reason, he only has to say it, three times at least.

But the wife should give a essay, debate and mental gymnastic why she wants a divorce, even with those she may not get it, because the poor thing, that needs protection and guidense maybe on cycle or has hormones.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

@Lais keeps getting platinum thread after thread

 

[Kane]

But the husband can come back on evening and divorce his wife.

The husband doesn't need any reason, he only has to say it, three times at least.

But the wife should give a essay, debate and mental gymnastic why she wants a divorce, even with those she may not get it, because the poor thing, that needs protection and guidense maybe on cycle or has hormones.

Now you’re questioning Allahs wisdom, is there nothing you won’t do to prove yourself to women, who don’t even know of your existence my dear brother.

 

[Aurelian]

Now you’re questioning Allahs wisdom, is there nothing you won’t do to prove yourself to women, who don’t even know of your existence my dear brother.

it wasn't a pick me situation is it is a genuine one. Beside that allah didn't say that women should not be allowed to divorce or harden it. Look at that comment and other wahabbis sources not allowing women divorce even if she presented everything she could and wrote essyas of valid reasons, they will not accept it because maybe she is suffering from the hormones or cycles. But if you asked them if the men can divorce without any reason they will say yes.

 

[Angelina]

Hating your husband without a reason or an explanation does not grant a woman the right to divorce in Islam. What if she is on a cycle or has hormone imbalances due to stress, bad diet, lack sleep… etc

There is a reason why only a man is given the power of taaluqaat and as far as hate goes, there isn’t a single woman on Gods green earth who doesn’t hate men to some degree.

You guy even hate being in love with a man when he leaves you no choice but to love him. Day and night you plot to get from under him and be free and miserable, it’s in your nature, it’s nothing personal.

reason to divorce in Islam are emotional/textual neglect, abandonment, abuse and lack of provisions.

The women could have easily made herself heard, she took the nuclear option, because she detested him.

But I agree that a woman who asks for a divorce should be given it immediately by the husband with any outside intervention.

Why hold on to someone who no longer wants you and most likely has someone else waiting in the wing.

This isn’t a debate. Look at the Hadith of the wife of Thabit bin Qays. It’s well known:

The evidence for that from the Sunnah is that the wife of Thabit ibn Qays ibn Shammaas (may Allah be pleased with him) came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I do not find any fault with Thabit ibn Qays in his character or his religious commitment, but I do not want to commit any act of kufr after becoming a Muslim.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said to her, “Will you give back his garden?” Because he had given her a garden as her mahr. She said, “Yes.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said to Thabit: “Take back your garden, and divorce her.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 5273).

There was nothing wrong with Thabit bin Qays. She simply didn’t like him and thus she didn’t want to transgress against him and the Prophet S.A.W told her to give back her Mehr.

 

[techsamatar]

This isn’t a debate. Look at the Hadith of the wife of Thabit bin Qays. It’s well known:

The evidence for that from the Sunnah is that the wife of Thabit ibn Qays ibn Shammaas (may Allah be pleased with him) came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I do not find any fault with Thabit ibn Qays in his character or his religious commitment, but I do not want to commit any act of kufr after becoming a Muslim.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said to her, “Will you give back his garden?” Because he had given her a garden as her mahr. She said, “Yes.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said to Thabit: “Take back your garden, and divorce her.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 5273).

There was nothing wrong with Thabit bin Qays. She simply didn’t like him and the Prophet S.A.W told her to give back her Mehr.

When can a woman ask for divorce?​

However, if there is a situation in the marital life taking place between the man and the woman, due to a defect or defects in one or both of them, such as problems of Din, bad character, sickness, or a defect such as being sterile or similar, then out of the mercy of Allah, seeking divorce is permissible. In this case, it is okay and there is nothing prohibited in seeking a divorce .

Seeking divorce for no reason​

The thing which is prohibited is a wife seeking a divorce from her husband for no (valid) reason in the Shari’ah. There is a serious promise made for seeking a divorce without a valid reason. It is reported in the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), "If a woman asks her husband for a divorce, for no reason, then the smell of Paradise is forbidden for her". (At-Tirmidhi narrated it. He said this is a hasan hadith. Sunan At-Tirmidhi, 1187.)

 

[Angelina]

When can a woman ask for divorce?​

However, if there is a situation in the marital life taking place between the man and the woman, due to a defect or defects in one or both of them, such as problems of Din, bad character, sickness, or a defect such as being sterile or similar, then out of the mercy of Allah, seeking divorce is permissible. In this case, it is okay and there is nothing prohibited in seeking a divorce .

Seeking divorce for no reason​

The thing which is prohibited is a wife seeking a divorce from her husband for no (valid) reason in the Shari’ah. There is a serious promise made for seeking a divorce without a valid reason. It is reported in the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), "If a woman asks her husband for a divorce, for no reason, then the smell of Paradise is forbidden for her". (At-Tirmidhi narrated it. He said this is a hasan hadith. Sunan At-Tirmidhi, 1187.)

The evidence for that from the Sunnah is that the wife of Thabit ibn Qays ibn Shammaas (may Allah be pleased with him) came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I do not find any fault with Thabit ibn Qays in his character or his religious commitment, but I do not want to commit any act of kufr after becoming a Muslim.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said to her, “Will you give back his garden?” Because he had given her a garden as her mahr. She said, “Yes.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said to Thabit: “Take back your garden, and divorce her.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 5273).

Not liking your husband and hence not being able to give him his Islamic rights due to this is a valid reason for divorce. If a woman dislikes her husband, how is that not a valid reason? How can she sleep with him? Treat him well?

 

[techsamatar]

The evidence for that from the Sunnah is that the wife of Thabit ibn Qays ibn Shammaas (may Allah be pleased with him) came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I do not find any fault with Thabit ibn Qays in his character or his religious commitment, but I do not want to commit any act of kufr after becoming a Muslim.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said to her, “Will you give back his garden?” Because he had given her a garden as her mahr. She said, “Yes.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said to Thabit: “Take back your garden, and divorce her.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 5273).

Not liking your husband and hence not being able to give him his Islamic rights due to this is a valid reason for divorce.

The vague hadith and her statement of not wanting to commit kufr after becoming Muslim clearly suggest there was more to it. It appears to be a situation handled personally by the Prophet, possibly a one-time occurrence. Either provide the tafsir of that hadith or leave it at that.

But this is a clear command for all believing women and not directed at anyone personally:

"If a woman asks her husband for a divorce, for no reason, then the smell of Paradise is forbidden for her." (At-Tirmidhi narrated it. He said this is a hasan hadith. Sunan At-Tirmidhi, 1187.)"

Am going to leave it as this, salam.

 

[Angelina]

The vague hadith and her statement of not wanting to commit kufr after becoming Muslim clearly suggest there was more to it. It appears to be a situation handled personally by the Prophet, possibly a one-time occurrence. Either provide the tafsir of that hadith or leave it at that.

It isn’t vague since IslamQa argues the same thing walal.

But this is a clear command for all believing women and not directed at anyone personally:

"If a woman asks her husband for a divorce, for no reason, then the smell of Paradise is forbidden for her." (At-Tirmidhi narrated it. He said this is a hasan hadith. Sunan At-Tirmidhi, 1187.)"

No, a woman hating a man thus not being able to fulfil his rights is a legitimate reason and scholars see it that way. If you can’t fulfill your spouses rights, both men and women, it is better to divorce since denying them their rights is even more haram.

Simple common sense:

If a woman hates a man, how does she sleep with him? If he repulses her, how does she talk to him? Look after him, have his kids?

Not doing the above is haram, hence that would cause issues with someone’s deen.

 

[techsamatar]

It isn’t vague since IslamQa argues the same thing walal.

No, a woman hating a man thus not being able to fulfil his rights is a legitimate reason and scholars see it that way. If you can’t fulfill your spouses rights, both men and women, it is better to divorce since denying them their rights is even more haram.

Yes, I agree that if neither of you will be fulfilling each other's rights, it's best to go separate ways. However, a woman wanting divorce out of pettiness, spite, and also in the heat of the moment falls under that hadith of 'no reason.' Personally, my parents had a million arguments and fallouts, yet they have been together since their teen years. The majority of it was my mom's character of being hard-headed, and my father used to let things cool down until she came to her senses. The same goes for my sister, who, in a moment of frustration, commanded to want a divorce over the dumbest reason ever. Yet, they are still together, and I tease her for thinking it's a game to casually mention wanting a divorce over trivial matters.

 

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[Angelina]

Yes, I agree that if neither of you will be fulfilling each other's rights, it's best to go separate ways. However, a woman wanting divorce out of pettiness, spite, and also in the heat of the moment falls under that hadith of 'no reason.' Personally, my parents had a million arguments and fallouts, yet they have been together since their teen years. The majority of it was my mom's character of being hard-headed, and my father used to let things cool down until she came to her senses. The same goes for my sister, who, in a moment of frustration, commanded to want a divorce over the dumbest reason ever. Yet, they are still together, and I tease her for thinking it's a game to casually mention wanting a divorce over trivial matters.

That’s completely different.

Your mother clearly still liked/loves your dad. Couples that actually care for each other having fall outs is different to a couple that simply can’t stand each other.

Im talking about a woman that dislikes a man generally and or can’t stand his appearance or personality. If he’s ugly/repulsive to her or she believes his character is terrible for example.

 

[error1]

It’s because of this chick she attracted them to this tweet just look at the second tweet

wow a self hater too lol

 

[techsamatar]

That’s completely different.

Your mother clearly still liked/loves your dad.

Im talking about a woman that dislikes a man generally and or can’t stand his appearance or personality:

Perhaps she does, or maybe not, but we should dismantle the myth of everlasting love; it's a Hollywood fantasy. Companionship and teamwork are more realistic. Despite having eight kids together, they recognized the folly of acting upon divorce. They understood that it's more damaging to the children, but that's life — you have to stick by what truly matters.

Of course, if the couple completely hate each other and detest being together, that is not healthy, as it will negatively impact the children. Even if, after months of trying to see if things will change, they make a few adjustments and give it time but still harbor those feelings, then they should go their separate ways. However, it's important that they part on amicable grounds, realizing they made an earnest effort to work things out.

But this woman harbored pure resentment and evil within her, evident in her actions. She could have worked through whatever she was feeling, given it time, and parted on good terms, showing her qabil and family that it's best they go separate ways. Yet, her husband, the poor guy, still forgave her, is willing to share their story, and remains married to her for the sake of their kids. I know he never sought revenge.

Umar ibnul Khattab [r.a.] said to a man who was thinking of divorcing his wife:
“Why do you want to divorce her?” He said, “I do not love her.” ‘Umar RA said, “Must every house be built on love? What about loyalty and appreciation?”

 

[NomadicWarlord]

Subhanallah

 

[Bazed]

Reading the comments made me realize empathy is a rare thing in our modern age.

Should he have divorced her? Yes, he is not entitled to keep her against her will. However he didn't deserve this, crippled in a society that hardly cares for its disabled.

Twitter is a good display that we're no different from animals. We just lie to ourselves.

 

[Kane]

it wasn't a pick me situation is it is a genuine one. Beside that allah didn't say that women should not be allowed to divorce or harden it.

I believe a woman has a right to divorce a man that does not protect her right or meets her needs. I’m just against actions taking on a whim which woman do a lot, because out their constant hormonal imbalances.

Look at that comment and other wahabbis sources not allowing women divorce even if she presented everything she could and wrote essyas of valid reasons, they will not accept it because maybe she is suffering from the hormones or cycles. But if you asked them if the men can divorce without any reason they will say yes.

That’s why I said the following which you some how missed.

“reasons to divorce in Islam are emotional/textual neglect, abandonment, abuse and lack of provisions.”

There is actually nothing emotional about the points stated above, those who call themselves Wahaabis are too primitive to understand a woman’s worth.

This isn’t a debate. Look at the Hadith of the wife of Thabit bin Qays. It’s well known:

The evidence for that from the Sunnah is that the wife of Thabit ibn Qays ibn Shammaas (may Allah be pleased with him) came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I do not find any fault with Thabit ibn Qays in his character or his religious commitment, but I do not want to commit any act of kufr after becoming a Muslim.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said to her, “Will you give back his garden?” Because he had given her a garden as her mahr. She said, “Yes.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said to Thabit: “Take back your garden, and divorce her.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 5273).

There was nothing wrong with Thabit bin Qays. She simply didn’t like him and thus she didn’t want to transgress against him and the Prophet S.A.W told her to give back her Mehr.

You disproved your own point, if only you had taken the time to read between the lines, it would have made sense to you.

Ask yourself, what would make a pious woman who is married to a man of good character and who is true to his deen. Commit an act of kufr?



Subxaanaka yaa cadiim ina adeer.

 

[niggaibnh]

Bruh she is needs her eyes removed or cut her both of her hands cuz what she did is out of order.

The man himself is wrong and should’ve divorced but she took it to next level. Now if she gets murdered people will be crying for her