Bosaso Vs Hargeisa Population. Dr Estimates

[DR OSMAN]

@Sheikh Dr Osman is a hater

Of course I hate Sade and most Somali tribes because were not at peace, what do you expect me to do love you? If you want us to do a peace deal, then I can love you till then I will fight to make sure you don't survive and continously lose boys while I keep my boys safe and growing. That's all the game is about for us in Puntland.

 

[Sheikh]

@Sheikh Let us not talk about Kismayo and give this fucker a platinum thread

Right fam @nine let's not give them nightmares of the karbashing they received in my city. And not let them get a plat thread.

Let it die.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@nine that's all it is sxb? we are at war as somalis, we are not at peace, so my goal is to ensure I depopulate you, that's the goal of a war, to remove you from Somalia through extinction and kill as many of your boys possible so the nation is left for me. There is no peace deal, you don't want to sit down and begin a reconciliation conference in Qardho, hosted by the king of darod. Puntlanders accepted a reconciliation deal, we did it in 1998 in Garowe headed by Islan Maxamed. We Osman maxamud walked into that conference and said warheedhe hartiyow anagu nabad baanu rabna. The harti all said anaguna nabad baanu rabna, ka bacdi waan heeshinay and we created Puntland.

End of story, that's called rageedi in Puntland qof dagaal yaqan iyo qof nabad yaqan baan nahay. We know peace and we know fuckin war niyahow. You want to war? we will war then and we will formulate strategies to eliminate your biggest sarkaals, generals, and experience out of your soldiers till you die on the battle field and collect your dead carcases.

 

[Sheikh]

@nine that's all it is sxb? we are at war as somalis, we are not at peace, so my goal is to ensure I depopulate you, that's the goal of a war, to remove you from Somalia through extinction and kill as many of your boys possible so the nation is left for me. There is no peace deal, you don't want to sit down and begin a reconciliation conference in Qardho, hosted by the king of darod. Puntlanders accepted a reconciliation deal, we did it in 1998 in Garowe headed by Islan Maxamed. We Osman maxamud walked into that conference and said warheedhe hartiyow anagu nabad baanu rabna. The harti all said anaguna nabad baanu rabna, ka bacdi waan heeshinay and we created Puntland.

End of story, that's called rageedi in Puntland qof dagaal yaqan iyo qof nabad yaqan baan nahay. We know peace and we know fuckin war niyahow. You want to war? we will war then and we will formulate strategies to eliminate your biggest sarkaals, generals, and experience out of your soldiers till you die on the battle field and collect your dead carcases.

In your dreams. Us Sade landeeres are the owners and rulers of Jubaland we are the majority.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Puntlanders sat down and said were sick of war and we want peace, they came together in Garowe all hartis and said sidan xal nooma ahan, carurtana way naga dhimanayan, langaabna baanu wada noqonayna akhirki la haysto aan ilashano dadkeena. We agreed to peace, we walked in with all our hearts and minds to have peace among the Harti. When we secured our peace through JUSTICE we had our clan elders create a system that is based on fairness and how the clans populate the regions and quota checked it. No-one is against it in Puntland because there is justice and that's all people want. Plus as Puntlanders we are not allowed to behave like hawiye or isaaq and renegade on deals we signed, if you signed you die by your deals niyahow it's called loyalty, cayaar ma gasho nabadeena mana ku ciyaarno.

We don't sign a peace deal like habar gedir and tommorow break it. We don't sign a constitution and then go to mogadishu and change articles in it. We honor our agreements look how long al-itihaad and puntland deal is holding and how they remain out of our politics but are active in our business sector? all bosaso is owned by wadaado and religious people, they focus their energies on the business sector cause they know the deal they signed with abdillahi yusuf to stay in business and keep out of puntland politics.

We even held the peace deal in galkacyo for 30 years to ensure a clan war never happens but people in mogadishu whisper crap to these habar gedir and they become nacas and break deals and it's lead to wars, it's because they don't know how to make peace, they just know how to war these hawiye. Doqon wuxu yaqana meesha lagu dagalamay ma ogga meesha lagu heeshiyay. A fool is like that @Sheikh clown he only kows about war and where people fought, he doesn't when people sat down and made peace and how they do it.

I am trying to help him as much as I can but you can't change stupid. Ha biqlayso waryaa dagaalku and we will make sure we eliminate your ass from Jubaland if you aint ready for peace.

 

[Sheikh]

Puntlanders sat down and said were sick of war and we want peace, they came together in Garowe all hartis and said sidan xal nooma ahan, carurtana way naga dhimanayan, langaabna baanu wada noqonayna akhirki la haysto aan ilashano dadkeena. We agreed to peace, we walked in with all our hearts and minds to have peace among the Harti. When we secured our peace through JUSTICE we had our clan elders create a system that is based on fairness and how the clans populate the regions and quota checked it. No-one is against it in Puntland because there is justice and that's all people want. Plus as Puntlanders we are not allowed to behave like hawiye or isaaq and renegade on deals we signed, if you signed you die by your deals niyahow it's called loyalty, cayaar ma gasho nabadeena mana ku ciyaarno.

We don't sign a peace deal like habar gedir and tommorow break it. We don't sign a constitution and then go to mogadishu and change articles in it. We honor our agreements look how long al-itihaad and puntland deal is holding and how they remain out of our politics but are active in our business sector? all bosaso is owned by wadaado and religious people, they focus their energies on the business sector cause they know the deal they signed with abdillahi yusuf to stay in business and keep out of puntland politics.

We even held the peace deal in galkacyo for 30 years to ensure a clan war never happens but people in mogadishu whisper crap to these habar gedir and they become nacas and break deals and it's lead to wars, it's because they don't know how to make peace, they just know how to war these hawiye. Doqon wuxu yaqana meesha lagu dagalamay ma ogga meesha lagu heeshiyay. A fool is like that @Sheikh clown he only kows about war and where people fought, he doesn't when people sat down and made peace and how they do it.

I am trying to help him as much as I can but you can't change stupid. Ha biqlayso waryaa dagaalku and we will make sure we eliminate your ass from Jubaland if you aint ready for peace.

Waryaa you the shoe shiner for cagdheer can't fight Barre Hiiraale a Marehan landeere karbashed you back to Galkacyo. @DR OSMAN your the buffoon that is afraid of combat because you know you will lose instantly.

Your doqonimo is showing.

Us Sade landeeres will make sure like we did in the past that we exterminate Kab iyo Lax from my mammul Jubaland.

Nobody isn't taking peace.
But you guys will surrender to us Sade landeere fighters.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Get in here Majerten a fuckin sade is on the loose, can some capture him and take him back to the zoo where he belongs!!! Maybe we can define the Sade as a unique species outside the human species!!!!

 

[Sheikh]

Get in here Majerten a fuckin sade is on the loose, can some capture him and take him back to the zoo where he belongs!!! Maybe we can define the Sade as a unique species outside the human species!!!!

Sade is too landeere and too strong and mighty.

Sade let's capture all the Kab iyo Lax weaklings like in the past and send them back to SSC and Galkacyo.

Maybe then they'll learn not to mess with Sade again.

 

[Reer-Bari]

Who is the largest clan in Majerten? Do you think I would say Osman Maxamud just because I am osman maxamud? nooooooooooooo wayyyyyyyyyyyyy. It's omar maxamud by a long shot, it's not even close in terms of numbers. See being real is what you should do, not just troll isaaq is a million or that sade clown running around with sade on the brain for everything and how sade is this and that.

Big ups to Omar Maxamud, waa landheeraha Majerten weeye. The question who takes second spot between Osman and Isse and Ali Saleban, that's all. Yo who do the Omar Maxamud think is the real valid second landheere of Majerten, notice the landheere is always given the highest voice and why we all turn to sayidka because he has nothing to gain by lying about other tribe, he knows his already the largest and why all clan consider him a neutral voice on other somali clans.

So all omar maxamud come in and speak on who you think is the second largest clan in the majerten. It's a race between Osman Maxamud-Isse Maxamud-Ali saleban. Some may leave Isse behind and say it will be a tight one between Osman Maxamud and Ali saleban

Atleast your being somewhat honoust. and by the way cali saleebaan and osman mohamud is not even close. cali saleebaan are the majority in barri. there is a guy named @Cognitivedissonance
who always talks shit about cali saleebaan and claims they are small in numbers. lol they are small in numbers when compared to mohamoud saleebaan. but they are bigger than even omar mohamud. your forgeting cali saleebaan have the most diaspora of all mjs. they dominate oman, yemen, saudi, dubai, and more. they also have a huge population in kismaayo. in barri they have over 40 small towns that i can name from memory. in bosaso they live from barxada golis all the way to controllka bosaso. thats litteraly 70% of bosaso where they are the majority in. almost all neighborhoods are dominated by them besides netco, laanta hawada, or near the port.

 

[Reer-Bari]

hhahaahahhaha this made my day. isaaq are smaller than mj. thats a fact. mj in puntland are 1.5 mill. in the south they number about 500 thousand. isaaq are about 1.7 mill. come on bro. mjs also dominate zambia, uganda, narobi, oman, yemen, dubai, etc. in oman harti are the only somalis allowed citizenship

 

[DR OSMAN]

Atleast your being somewhat honoust. and by the way cali saleebaan and osman mohamud is not even close. cali saleebaan are the majority in barri. there is a guy named @Cognitivedissonance
who always talks shit about cali saleebaan and claims they are small in numbers. lol they are small in numbers when compared to mohamoud saleebaan. but they are bigger than even omar mohamud. your forgeting cali saleebaan have the most diaspora of all mjs. they dominate oman, yemen, saudi, dubai, and more. they also have a huge population in kismaayo. in barri they have over 40 small towns that i can name from memory. in bosaso they live from barxada golis all the way to controllka bosaso. thats litteraly 70% of bosaso where they are the majority in. almost all neighborhoods are dominated by them besides netco, laanta hawada, or near the port.

Their fuckin massive, I am not saying they are langaab niyahow and you might be right they may outnumber cisman maxamud and even the omar maxamud guy said he thinks osman maxamud is more but you never know he said at the end about ali saleban figures.

The fact is the omar maxamud are the largest clan in majerten, you don't come close their geel numbers and daaqsintooda which pushes all the way into wardheer, gobolada dhexe, up untill hawdka and sool and nugaal. It's about your nomads not just your settlements and look at omar maxamud settlements galkacyo halfkeeda, burtinle, bacadwayne, jariban, garacad, wardheer there is heaps and their huge settlements compared to your ali saleban settlements which is tiny in comparison.

Don't dispute majerten numbers niyahow look at the diaspora everywhere I go I always see omar maxamud at least 5 and then osman maxamud and ali saleban and cusman maxamud and isse maxamud with lesser figures sxb. No doubt in my mind omar maxamud own the joint in majerten and it will be up the landheere who has the no 1 spot to decide who is ku xigeenkisa in number, it's not up to your or me to decide learn the culture niyahow. Just present your facts and I will now go and search cisman maxamud facts to counter your argument.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Learn Puntland culture the guy who is no 1 has nothing to gain or conflict of interest who will be his no 2 so he will assess the facts and evidences presented to him to judge on the numerical power of each clan to decide on ku xigeenkisa. Me and you can't argue for the second spot because we both want it and have a conflict of interst, we need a neutral decider and that's how we gonna hold the somali reconcliation conference cause thats when cisman maxamud shines bringing somali together like we did under SYL.

We sat back when Puntland formed when we weren't satisfied with a Puntalnd state that is only about Puntland, we played at national stage, we hate being related to tuulo politics, it's just historical stuff this niyahow that's why osman maxamud have been chosen to hold the reconciliation conference in Qardho. We gonna add another mark on our history on who ended the civil war in somalia and reconciled and performed all the awood qaybsi problems across taxations, political representation, investments, quota sharing, revenue sharing, etc. Yes we didn't bring federalism, Islan Isse takes the credit, so big up Issa maxamud on that and give him credit for it. But Osman maxamud will settle the FUCKIN DASTURKA AND RECONCILATION IN QARHDO.

Somalis have transfered Somali royal family title to Burhan when he was being crowned as 34th Boqortoyo of Darood, they all came the Somali clans and even arabs and international observers and the federal government and said ma tihid boqor daarood waxad tahay boqor somaliyeed go watch the crowning of Boqor Burhan if you think I am lying. He has the longest lineage and historical chain to the longest lasting kingdom in Somalia. The rest of the boqors in somalia and suldans are mostly fakers like xaad and diriye and buurmadow oo shali is magacabay with no historical connection and chain to call upon. Wa tima jare xun oo isim is mooday is what cisman maxamud say in secret about other clans using titles that are not suitable for the person.

So if Somalis accept that we are the royal family of somalis then farmajo came to qardho and said this is the cultural capital of somalia and we will be holding and delegating you the role of reconcilation which means ending the conflict among somalis along all their disputes, constitutional, political, tribal, whatever the dispute it is, we must reconcile them on all their divisions and we will be using sophisticated puntland based traditional mechanism to solve it.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Now the dispute between the osman maxamud and ali saleban goes a long way back, they even killed sharmarke the motherfuckers looooooooool. They argue since Ali saleban is your adeer for maxamud saleban we must be the oldest son of majerten and therefore the rightful owners of boqortoyada and cisman maxamud stole it from them and the bad blood has stretched for centuries niyahow and has gone from rural warfare to city warfare and even political warfare spilled over onto the national stage with the killing of abdirashid ali sharmarke.

Ali saleban and Osman maxamud are huge rivals similar to Sacad and Omar maxamud or Dhulbahante and Isaaq.

Please note the osman maxamud have responded to the ali saleban claims of the title to boqor darod and we argue back in bari that we didn't steal it and yes you were our uncle for maxamud saleban however an uncle can be younger in age then the person he is uncle for. I have many uncles younger then me where my awoowe had kids later in life and my father had kids at the same time and I was older then what my awoowe gave birth too in his later years.

So it's all speculative about boqortoyada and the ali saleban was in attendance which shows you it's not a real claim at all or else isimo wouldn't be there. Do you see them going xaad or diriye or boqor burmadow crowning and shit? noone goes to crappy self made no historical legitimacy people or else you give them attention and make them important. We will attend the IMAM OF MUDULOOD and recongized elders of habar gedir and murusade.

 

[Reer-Bari]

Now the dispute between the osman maxamud and ali saleban goes a long way back, they even killed sharmarke the motherfuckers looooooooool. They argue since Ali saleban is your adeer for maxamud saleban we must be the oldest son of majerten and therefore the rightful owners of boqortoyada and cisman maxamud stole it from them and the bad blood has stretched for centuries niyahow and has gone from rural warfare to city warfare and even political warfare spilled over onto the national stage with the killing of abdirashid ali sharmarke.

Ali saleban and Osman maxamud are huge rivals similar to Sacad and Omar maxamud or Dhulbahante and Isaaq.

Please note the osman maxamud have responded to the ali saleban claims of the title to boqor darod and we argue back in bari that we didn't steal it and yes you were our uncle for maxamud saleban however an uncle can be younger in age then the person he is uncle for. I have many uncles younger then me where my awoowe had kids later in life and my father had kids at the same time and I was older then what my awoowe gave birth too in his later years.

So it's all speculative about boqortoyada and the ali saleban was in attendance which shows you it's not a real claim at all or else isimo wouldn't be there. Do you see them going xaad or diriye or boqor burmadow crowning and shit? noone goes to crappy self made no historical legitimacy people or else you give them attention and make them important. We will attend the IMAM OF MUDULOOD and recongized elders of habar gedir and murusade.

true. but your wrong in the fact that cali saleebaan is older than osman mohamud. i hope you know mohamud saleebaan is the younger brother of cali saleebaan. anyways the story of mohamoud saleebaan stealing the crown from calisaleebaan is widely known by the locals. the story goes like this. i dont fully remember so i might make some mistakes. the father of the saleebaans decided instead of giving the crown the any of the sons that they had to play in a competition of some sort that included sitting under a specific tree. the youngest brother ismail saleebaan was mohamoud saleebaans favourite brother and always did everything for him. mohamoud saleebaan outsmarted cali saleebaan by telling ismail saleebaan to give false infromation to cali saleebaan and he ended up siting under the wrong tree and lost the competition and the crown to mahmoud saleeban

 

[Reer-Bari]

true. but your wrong in the fact that cali saleebaan is older than osman mohamud. i hope you know mohamud saleebaan is the younger brother of cali saleebaan. anyways the story of mohamoud saleebaan stealing the crown from calisaleebaan is widely known by the locals. the story goes like this. i dont fully remember so i might make some mistakes. the father of the saleebaans decided instead of giving the crown the any of the sons that they had to play in a competition of some sort that included sitting under a specific tree. the youngest brother ismail saleebaan was mohamoud saleebaans favourite brother and always did everything for him. mohamoud saleebaan outsmarted cali saleebaan by telling ismail saleebaan to give false infromation to cali saleebaan and he ended up siting under the wrong tree and lost the competition and the crown to mahmoud saleeban

this is the reason cali saleebaan especially the ismail cali sub clan of cali saleebaan have assinated over 8 boqors in the history of the fued

 

[Samsung]

Majerteenia is a dusty old dry barren village compared to the metropolitan that is Somaliland. I don't even know why they want to compare its like they want to be us so bad

Forget your dusty little subclan Harti. Isaaqs are larger in number then all daroods combined

 

[La Xawla]

Damn Paul of Bosaso wat an asshole, he killed our port. I was looking back at years gone by in a boom period and the amount of traffic we have now is similar to berbera wallahi, that's shocking stuff, we used to be jam packed with dhows, livestock vessels, and so forth. Now it's just one livestock vessel and a few number of dhows, thanks to paul. The clientele left and are probably using that 'make shift' port they built remember when Paul said you can't use Bosaso port anymore to the guy who wanted to enter the port with his products that was left stuck in sea? they responded by creating that make shift port so he can dock down.

Bosaso port has been a nightmare, it's all under the table shady deals going on. Nothing presented to the honorable parliament to review the terms and conditions and what the deal is even about, start times, how it's going to affect our current economic environment, how it will effect our clientele, the city in general, when is going to be completed, how is it going to be monitored, who will monitor it. You know the good old majerten eyes in parliament needed to review this but president gas hasn't even brought before them.

Who the hell is this “Paul”?

 

[DR OSMAN]

Who the hell is this “Paul”?

He is a loser people suspect Gaas brought to kill Bosaso port and have us all switch to garacad that is the rumour, it's not about developing the bosaso port, it's about making it so unattractive through 'poor managers' step in PAUL and making the clientele say screw this and go to Garacad. Some reer boqor are suspicious of what the Omar Maxamud agenda is about re-directing business to Garacad and making Garacad another Bosaso how-ever this time in the central regions.

Other reer boqors are arguing we need to shift operations from Bosaso to Garacad to capture the livestock market of the central and ddsi regions and then capture the oil trade which has been confirmed in ogadenia after drills. Some reer boqor support it and see it as Puntland regional interest, others are saying it's about Omar maxamud wanting to turn Mudug from the MUTUALLY accepted BORDER REGION to the FINANCIAL HUB of Puntland.

Some are saying it will be the SILK road of Puntland in terms of livestock and oil later when ogadenia begins producing and Puntland will secure huge new markets and cash up it's economy to possibly 10 times what it's size now and this means buying new armoury and defence systems for the future.

 

[SilentE1001]

Instead of bad mouthing Somaliland and it's cities and sowing discontent why don't collaborate and share ideas to for both to benefit as no nation out city prospered without trade / partnership / collaborations where there are both positives that can be learned from each other and can avoid where both failed