Balkanization of Somalia will be worse than the current situation

Som

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His capital would be Mogadishu, Also that is one hell of a photo. Ive been to Hargeisa and most of it doesnt look like that especially on a windy day.
Hargeysa is doing OK but it's still a 4th world city.
Only reer baadiyes post pictures of cities to make a point.
LoL. Any african major city is better than Hargeysa or even Xamar, if having fancier cities makes one superior then all of africa is better than us.
Somalis should think before embarrassing themselves.
 

OffTheDome

Proud American
Then why are your people doing tahriib? Half of the somalis in Libya are Landers.
LoL.
Geeljires comparing buildings Always make me laugh.
Anyway I'm not from Gedo Saaxiib . We don't only live in Gedo lol
Dude you can’t escape reality, you’re from the shittiest region on the entire continent, and you’re here taking about other people’s towns. Stop ducking and dodging it
:mjlaugh:
 
A landlocked mx complaining about balkanization
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This niggas live in Lower Jubba and middle Jubba and have a one of the best rivers in east africa. Siyaad ain't a whole tribe so stop slandering.
 
damm for a warsengli you are really invested in koonfuur. Can i ask why?
I have only talked to my grandfather once in my life. I was around 5 years old and he told me to work hard in school and educate myself.

A few weeks later my father disappeared from the house , i found out he was in his room for 2 days straight. My grandfather was dead, killed alongside his maid and 2 of my baby cousins by terrorists.

My grandfather was a high ranking member of the government, i won't go into details but he has a wiki page and all.

A few weeks before he was assassinated i remember arguments between my dad and my grandfather, my dad was adamant that he should go to Dubai. Dubai would grant him a visa and he could rent a home through our great late aunt. My dad offered to pay everything.

But My grandfathers answer was simple, "What for?, have i lost all dignity?".

My grandfather died for Somalia even though generations of our family was raised in Aden. He died for it even though in 2005 the government was non-existent. He died for it when it was easy to not.

Patriotism is not standing with your country when its strong but also standing with it when it's at its worst point. A true patriot will not give up on the Ideal, the ideal of a Somali nation where all men and women are equal and free, unburdened by radical Islamists, tribalists and foreign invaders.

I support my grandfathers dream and what he died for.
 
The problem is that we had no federal states in ths early 2000s so no basis to form indipendent countries. Now we have JL,PL, Galmudug, Hirshabelle and Southwest. That's 5 possibile states with five different presidents
Federal states are fine and good to help plan the development of regions. What is bad is are federal states with militias, if you look at FGS's NDP-9 the main goal is the incorporation of militias. Over the last 4 year's nearly all of Southern Somalias militias have been incorporated into the FGS military. The major holdout being Kismaayo.

Koonfur is ~75% of Somalias population and thus an FGS who controls it is effectively the president of most of Somalia. This coupled with a strong budget nearing 1 billion will help spur resource extraction like oil.
 

convincation

Soomaali waa Hawiyah Iyo Hashiyah
VIP
I have only talked to my grandfather once in my life. I was around 5 years old and he told me to work hard in school and educate myself.

A few weeks later my father disappeared from the house , i found out he was in his room for 2 days straight. My grandfather was dead, killed alongside his maid and 2 of my baby cousins by terrorists.

My grandfather was a high ranking member of the government, i won't go into details but he has a wiki page and all.

A few weeks before he was assassinated i remember arguments between my dad and my grandfather, my dad was adamant that he should go to Dubai. Dubai would grant him a visa and he could rent a home through our great late aunt. My dad offered to pay everything.

But My grandfathers answer was simple, "What for?, have i lost all dignity?".

My grandfather died for Somalia even though generations of our family was raised in Aden. He died for it even though in 2005 the government was non-existent. He died for it when it was easy to not.

Patriotism is not standing with your country when its strong but also standing with it when it's at its worst point. A true patriot will not give up on the Ideal, the ideal of a Somali nation where all men and women are equal and free, unburdened by radical Islamists, tribalists and foreign invaders.

I support my grandfathers dream and what he died for.
Lol that would be a bomb anime backstory tho. “I’m gonna be the hokage of sanag one day, just you see!”

AUN to your grandfather
 

mr steal your naag

banu hashim and shiettt
VIP
I have only talked to my grandfather once in my life. I was around 5 years old and he told me to work hard in school and educate myself.

A few weeks later my father disappeared from the house , i found out he was in his room for 2 days straight. My grandfather was dead, killed alongside his maid and 2 of my baby cousins by terrorists.

My grandfather was a high ranking member of the government, i won't go into details but he has a wiki page and all.

A few weeks before he was assassinated i remember arguments between my dad and my grandfather, my dad was adamant that he should go to Dubai. Dubai would grant him a visa and he could rent a home through our great late aunt. My dad offered to pay everything.

But My grandfathers answer was simple, "What for?, have i lost all dignity?".

My grandfather died for Somalia even though generations of our family was raised in Aden. He died for it even though in 2005 the government was non-existent. He died for it when it was easy to not.

Patriotism is not standing with your country when its strong but also standing with it when it's at its worst point. A true patriot will not give up on the Ideal, the ideal of a Somali nation where all men and women are equal and free, unburdened by radical Islamists, tribalists and foreign invaders.

I support my grandfathers dream and what he died for.
Okay i understand why you believe in somalia and somaliweyn but your grandfather was one of the view. The average somali politian and general are first ballot scumbacks and thiefs. They just want to get rich tru stealing. And not all somalis have the same views as you
 

convincation

Soomaali waa Hawiyah Iyo Hashiyah
VIP
Hopefully with less fillers then Naruto. I cant believe I watched 450 episodes back in year 9/10
I wouldn’t even realise I was watching fillers sometimes I would only deep it like 50 episodes in. You think 450 episodes is a lot try one piece:deadmanny:
 

Som

VIP
I have only talked to my grandfather once in my life. I was around 5 years old and he told me to work hard in school and educate myself.

A few weeks later my father disappeared from the house , i found out he was in his room for 2 days straight. My grandfather was dead, killed alongside his maid and 2 of my baby cousins by terrorists.

My grandfather was a high ranking member of the government, i won't go into details but he has a wiki page and all.

A few weeks before he was assassinated i remember arguments between my dad and my grandfather, my dad was adamant that he should go to Dubai. Dubai would grant him a visa and he could rent a home through our great late aunt. My dad offered to pay everything.

But My grandfathers answer was simple, "What for?, have i lost all dignity?".

My grandfather died for Somalia even though generations of our family was raised in Aden. He died for it even though in 2005 the government was non-existent. He died for it when it was easy to not.

Patriotism is not standing with your country when its strong but also standing with it when it's at its worst point. A true patriot will not give up on the Ideal, the ideal of a Somali nation where all men and women are equal and free, unburdened by radical Islamists, tribalists and foreign invaders.

I support my grandfathers dream and what he died for.
A true Patriot.
AUN.
 

Som

VIP
Okay i understand why you believe in somalia and somaliweyn but your grandfather was one of the view. The average somali politian and general are first ballot scumbacks and thiefs. They just want to get rich tru stealing. And not all somalis have the same views as you
Most average somalis in real life (except reer SL) aren't opposed to Somali patriotism. On the contrary they would love united somalia buy since we have so many problems they prefer supporting their own qabil. Honestly you pro balkanization guys only exist online, never met any somali in real life who supports balkanization
 
if somaliland couldn’t secede after all these years there’s just no way somalia will balkanize unless we have another full blown civil war which is unlikely. why even entertain the idea
 
Okay i understand why you believe in somalia and somaliweyn but your grandfather was one of the view. The average somali politian and general are first ballot scumbacks and thiefs. They just want to get rich tru stealing. And not all somalis have the same views as you
I agree that the average Somali politician is corrupt and shortsighted. The generals in our military have my respect and deserve respect for their efforts.

Yet why does this matter?

The way to change views is to advocate for them not to give up.

The average Somali is tired of fat old politicians, Arabian supported terrorists and corrupt NGOs using us as a poster boy for their pan handling. The inertia of the corrupt system brought by Ethiopia and westerners will fail and a new Somalia will form based on the public zeitgeist.
 
I'm really curious
If there was no outside intervention or help , Military or financial.
How long will it take alkabab to overrun and capture all of Somalia ,including Somaliland?
 

convincation

Soomaali waa Hawiyah Iyo Hashiyah
VIP
The average Somali is tired of fat old politicians, Arabian supported terrorists and corrupt NGOs using us as a poster boy for their pan handling. The inertia of the corrupt system brought by Ethiopia and westerners will fail and a new Somalia will form based on the public zeitgeist.
Not true. If that was the case we wouldn’t be in the situation we are in today. Politicians can get away with as much as they do because the people support them due to qabil. If a politician is exposed for being a gay jew that stole millions and kidnapped children while eating their mothers alive and there’s video footage of it all his clan would still support him because that man represented them no matter how bad he was they will always see it as one less man representing them. The curse of the Somali people I guess :francis:
 

convincation

Soomaali waa Hawiyah Iyo Hashiyah
VIP
I'm really curious
If there was no outside intervention or help , Military or financial.
How long will it take alkabab to overrun and capture all of Somalia ,including Somaliland?
They wouldn’t be able to do it, a large chunk of Somalia is sufi and shababs principles are based on wahabism. Plus if one qabil supports shabab the rival of that qabil will naturally be anti shabab to keep the rivalry going
 

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