Baidoa has officially joined Ethiopia.

mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
Sad to see Ethiopia occupying Baydhabo I'm 2023. How can the Ethiopian flag be rising high like that on Somali soil.

Baydhabo has become a colony of Ethiopia
 

mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
Well could you imagine if they left, Shabaab would be controlling the city
But at the same time Ethiopians and Atmis as a whole are against fighting shabaab. There's many times the locals picked up arms to fight and the ethios stop them. Mainly because they know if shabaab is defeated there mandate will be over.

Also if they left shabaab will defo take over for a while. But sooner or later the locals will have enough and pick up their arms and finish these guys once and for all. But the ethios don't want that. These guys are cadow of Somalia.
 

ZBR

سبحان اللهِ وبحمدِه Free Palestine
Mogadishu cant project power outside of the city, may it be manpower of its suburbs nor resources- on both it depends on the Somali interior

Baidao controls Mogadishu more than Mogadishu controls it

 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
But at the same time Ethiopians and Atmis as a whole are against fighting shabaab. There's many times the locals picked up arms to fight and the ethios stop them. Mainly because they know if shabaab is defeated there mandate will be over.

Also if they left shabaab will defo take over for a while. But sooner or later the locals will have enough and pick up their arms and finish these guys once and for all. But the ethios don't want that. These guys are cadow of Somalia.
You have to start from within. RX and MX wanted Ethiopia to help them against HG.

They are protecting you not just from Shabaab but from Xamar taking you over.

Even now if they left Baydhabo, Shabaab take it over and then Xamar SNA roll in you wouldn’t be happy. Similar to how you aren’t happy about Shabellaha Hoose being controlled from Xamar
 

mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
Mogadishu cant project power outside of the city, may it be manpower of its suburbs nor resources- on both it depends on the Somali interior

Baidao controls Mogadishu more than Mogadishu controls it

Maybe not now but defo in the future. As SWS gains more control of their territory .
 

mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
You have to start from within. RX and MX wanted Ethiopia to help them against HG.

They are protecting you not just from Shabaab but from Xamar taking you over.

Even now if they left Baydhabo, Shabaab take it over and then Xamar SNA roll in you wouldn’t be happy. Similar to how you aren’t happy about Shabellaha Hoose being controlled from Xamar
I personally would be happy for Ethiopia to leave. Ethiopia is a worse enemy then anyone else. At least Habargidir is a Somali clan.

Second of all I will defend myself from Xamar. Even if xamar takes over I prefer hawiye to xabashi xun.

But Ethiopia never entered Somalia to help Reewin but for their own interest.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
I personally would be happy for Ethiopia to leave. Ethiopia is a worse enemy then anyone else. At least Habargidir is a Somali clan.

Second of all I will defend myself from Xamar. Even if xamar takes over I prefer hawiye to xabashi xun.

But Ethiopia never entered Somalia to help Reewin but for their own interest.
That’s a good mindset. I hope we can see ATMIS pullout fully by end of 2024. We shouldn’t see an Ethiopian flag in Somalia.
 

DR OSMAN

AF NAAREED
VIP
@mohamedismail u have suffered far more due to pan somalism and even had HG do a humanitarian isbaaro on baydhabo and u still love them over habashi, nagu kala wad, that's madness, wallahi u @SPMLegend dalkani waad ku sixirteen your sayid abdulle pan somali project where they will be genocided and turned extinct by somali clan then live in ethiopia or kenya, but not majerten or warsangeli kings who foresaw this pan somali disaster and were sacked n exiled, their foresight and wisdom wasn't known by their peers and time-period but honored today after we saw their wisdom turn true in 91.
 

mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
@mohamedismail u have suffered far more due to pan somalism and even had HG do a humanitarian isbaaro on baydhabo and u still love them over habashi, nagu kala wad, that's madness, wallahi u @SPMLegend dalkani waad ku sixirteen your sayid abdulle pan somali project where they will be genocided and turned extinct by somali clan then live in ethiopia or kenya, but not majerten or warsangeli kings who foresaw this pan somali disaster and were sacked n exiled, their foresight and wisdom wasn't known by their peers and time-period but honored today after we saw their wisdom turn true in 91.
The reason why I prefer HG over Ethiopia is because I believe I can defend myself from HG . I can't defend myself from the government of Ethiopia

I believe I am more powerful then hawiye and HG and can even dominate them if the right time comes. There's no way me as a clan can defeat Ethiopia which is a whole government that is extremely powerful .

That's the reason why. Not because I love Hiraab.
 

DR OSMAN

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The reason why I prefer HG over Ethiopia is because I believe I can defend myself from HG . I can't defend myself from the government of Ethiopia

I believe I am more powerful then hawiye and HG and can even dominate them if the right time comes. There's no way me as a clan can defeat Ethiopia which is a whole government that is extremely powerful .

That's the reason why. Not because I love Hiraab.

I prefer where my clan can survive and thrive and that's not in Somalia, I would be happy for us to be in ethio or kenya then live in constant conflict in Somalia and eventually become like the aborigines and have the world excel past us and leave us behind in the industrial age and now artificial intelligence age, if u add this up over time, an advanced culture will eventually come and remove u from ur land like happened to aborigine. Anigu meeshaa dadkay ku naabad heli karan baan aadaya so we can keep up with the world and not be the future aborigine.
 

DR OSMAN

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@mohamedismail u follow somali phobia of ethiopia, but that died out in 91 when we realized the worst enemy of Somalis is in Somalia not ethiopia or kenya, all clans have upgraded and realized this. In the future an advanced ethiopian and possibly absame will return to somalia to control it while we missed industrial and artificial era, two big eras in humanity, we know wat happens when humans dont keep up with the world due to isolation or conflict like the aborigines, a superior 18th century british came and conquered with guns.

But that gun edge of the british on aborigines will change to robots and artificial intelligence so intelligent u will never be able to fool it or win when they come 4 somalia as u havent kept up with the world. So your harming your clan if u prefer remaining in this vacuum.
 

mohamedismail

Reewin. Lixda Gobol ee Maayland unii leh!
@mohamedismail u follow somali phobia of ethiopia, but that died out in 91 when we realized the worst enemy of Somalis is in Somalia not ethiopia or kenya, all clans have upgraded and realized this. In the future an advanced ethiopian and possibly absame will return to somalia to control it while we missed industrial and artificial era, two big eras in humanity, we know wat happens when humans dont keep up with the world due to isolation or conflict like the aborigines, a superior 18th century british came and conquered with guns.

But that gun edge of the british on aborigines will change to robots and artificial intelligence so intelligent u will never be able to fool it or win when they come 4 somalia as u havent kept up with the world. So your harming your clan if u prefer remaining in this vacuum.
I understand your point. But I follow the opinion that a stable Ethiopia is bad for Somalia. The only way I see somalia gaining peace and stability is through a non stable Ethiopia.

I do agree that our worst enemy as Somalis is ourselves. I am against scapegoating Somalia and ethiopia
 

DR OSMAN

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@mohamedismail currently the world has a world order with 'teeth' The West, but we can't see the future but in the event there is no world order, we can predict what can happen. Big countries swallow up small, the air/sea ways all in a vacuum, disgruntled groups carve their own countries, human right abuses like holocausts, scramble on continents. We can safely predict this outcome if a world order doesn't exist becuz this was witnessed in the old world prior to the modern age we are in.

Somalia remaining how they are now and compounded into a few centuries can lead to a situation the outside world u fear will see u as aborigines of their time as u didnt keep up in industrialization, artificial intelligence, etc, the same thing will happen to your ppl that happened to aborigines becuz u didnt keep up with the world.
 

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