Atheists

[Hassan2000]

Are you dense mate? How could god misguide someone? That goes against our will power. If interferes with individual people’s choice then how could he judge them for what he chose for them?

You are misguided based on your intentions and actions thats you own fault nobody elses. If you are arguing that you have no free will then tell me who forced you to type out this bs

 

[Hassan2000]

God misguids ppl he doesn't like. and then put them in to eternal hell as a result of it

Your a gaal???

 

[gbrlax3]

Your a gaal???

no Muslim Allhamdullilah

 

[Recon Expert]

Are you dense mate? How could god misguide someone? That goes against our will power. If interferes with individual people’s choice then how could he judge them for what he chose for them?

These type of conversation were banned during the caliphate of Ali since it caused division amongst the people. Today if you ask any Sheikh about this topic they will tell you it's cilmul ghaib and whispers from the devils.

Wallahi it's confusing stuff, Allah is the overseer and has the capability of guiding everyone instead of creating this mess where he had to send dozens of prophets, punish many civilization and send billions to hell.

 

[FiftyPence]

You are misguided based on your intentions and actions thats you own fault nobody elses. If you are arguing that you have no free will then tell me who forced you to type out this bs

Loool saxib I am not arguing about whether I have free will or not, I am arguing about the fact that you said that god guides who he wants and then within the same sentence said that we have free will. That doesn’t make any sense. Your confused.

 

[Hassan2000]

These type of conversation were banned during the caliphate of Ali since it caused division amongst the people. Today if you ask any Sheikh about this topic they will tell you it's cilmul ghaib and whispers from the devils.

Wallahi it's confusing stuff, Allah is the overseer and has the capability of guiding everyone instead of creating this mess where he had to send dozens of prophets, punish many civilization and send billions to hell.

Lying wont help you pal, anyone with a rudimentary understanding of islam can answer these misconceptions let alone the sheikhs and people of knowledge

 

[gbrlax3]

Loool saxib I am not arguing about whether I have free will or not, I am arguing about the fact that you said that god guides who he wants and then within the same sentence said that we have free will. That doesn’t make any sense. Your confused.

ok then accept getting cucked by shaytan lanatulahi alayh. just know eternal hellfire is real

 

[FiftyPence]

Lying wont help you pal, anyone with a rudimentary understanding of islam can answer these misconceptions let alone the sheikhs and people of knowledge

Then answer them, I am waiting....

 

[gbrlax3]

Loool saxib I am not arguing about whether I have free will or not, I am arguing about the fact that you said that god guides who he wants and then within the same sentence said that we have free will. That doesn’t make any sense. Your confused.

God (Allah) can deceive whoever he wants. do not get cucked by shaytan sister

 

[FiftyPence]

God (Allah) can deceive whoever he wants. do not get cucked by shaytan sister

Okay with this logic maybe god chose to deceive me. So why should I be punished when he chose this for me.

 

[gbrlax3]

Okay with this logic maybe god chose to deceive me. So why should I be punished when he chose this for me.

yep you will be punished in the darkest most painful parts of hell for eternity . repent before its to late ..

 

[FiftyPence]

These type of conversation were banned during the caliphate of Ali since it caused division amongst the people. Today if you ask any Sheikh about this topic they will tell you it's cilmul ghaib and whispers from the devils.

Wallahi it's confusing stuff, Allah is the overseer and has the capability of guiding everyone instead of creating this mess where he had to send dozens of prophets, punish many civilization and send billions to hell.

Banning questioning of the deen is wrong. If no one questions anything then how could god punish them?

 

[gbrlax3]

Okay with this logic maybe god chose to deceive me. So why should I be punished when he chose this for me.

all we tryna do is save you. but once a person is misguided he/she is misguided for ever. unless you want to put effort and change whats in your hearth

 

[Hassan2000]

Loool saxib I am not arguing about whether I have free will or not, I am arguing about the fact that you said that god guides who he wants and then within the same sentence said that we have free will. That doesn’t make any sense. Your confused.

Maybe you don't have the capacity to understand it thats really a you problem. Someone who commits evil on a daily and refuses to repent Allah can misguide and if they repent and return. Allah is most merciful most forgiving and he can Guide them back. The gaalo who choose disbelief receive misguidance as a result of their disbelief.

 

[Sloane Ranger]

You have to understand that many leave due to how the religion was practiced within their own environment. Ask Allah to change their hearts and be gentle with them. You never know, that might be how they come back.

I've heard of people equate their personal experiences as representative of the deen. I wish they'd educated themselves before making such a detrimental decision

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[gbrlax3]

atheism = shirk. thats why atheist will stay in hell forever. atheism worships evolution and ''you only live once'' a.k.a worshipping their own desires till their end comes

 

[Recon Expert]

@Hassan2000 This is not something any scholar can answer, even Sh Shibli tried to answer from a Somali gaal who asked him during Q&A sessions and he went completely off topic.

 

[Hassan2000]

@Hassan2000 This is not something any scholar can answer, even Sh Shibli tried to answer from a Somali gaal who asked him during Q&A sessions and he went completely off topic.

You are lying again

 

[Juke]

It’s still a book. Your belief system is based on your faith that some guy in the past had god’s word spoken to him and they wrote it down lol . Don’t you think a god, especially the way he’s described in religion as all knowing/powerful etc would have given a better sign to latter generations, rather than a book?

Even then, the book is logically flawed. Take god’s characteristics, in practice are they what you see on earth ? Everything points to god being an ego-maniac rather than the 99 names ascribed to him.

The most merciful entity creates a kid in a vegetative state from birth yet the best proof of a better afterlife he can offer them is some words in a book lol sounds crazy to me

Quran isn't a book. It was made into a book after the prophet died. We don't say a compilation of speeches is a book just because it was written down.

 

[Recon Expert]

Banning questioning of the deen is wrong. If no one questions anything then how could god punish them?

It's important to answer these questions. It will strengthen the faith of people in doubt.

But sadly some people only know brute force and avoid questions.

Check the video from this thread.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/wtf-umar-binu-khattab-as-a-khalif-hit-a-guy-for-simply-asking-a-religious-question.103653/