Atheism and delusion.

[Bile Huruse]

This thread isn't about weather atheism is correct or not but rather what the atheist world view entails.
Can someone live a normal if they apply the atheist world view on daily bases, for example how would an atheist object to beastality?.

 

[redpen]

they would start using animals for sex no doubt. but they'd justify it with a false study showing that the animal feels pleasure

 

[HIGH PRIESTESS]

Atheists believe that the world is their playground and they are not answerable to anyone. It’s true that the average man and woman would love to have the freedom to do whatever they want, but God who created us knows us best. He knows that with freedom, the children of Adam succumb to idiocy, degeneracy and become puppets to shaytan. Allah knows that humankind can only prosper and survive if they follow strict and divine laws. Atheists believe that they are free and want to teach others to abandon our moral compass and return to the Stone Age.

 

[Basra]

Atheists believe that the world is their playground and they are not answerable to anyone. It’s true that the average man and woman would love to have the freedom to do whatever they want, but God who created us knows us best. He knows that with freedom, the children of Adam succumb to idiocy, degeneracy and become puppets to shaytan. Allah knows that humankind can only prosper and survive if they follow strict and divine laws. Atheists believe that they are free and want to teach others to abandon our moral compass and return to the Stone Age.

Priestess

I am kinda surprised. I always suspected u were an atheist.


I also think u r trolling on typing atheist have no moral campus. Nope, some atheists moral campus is even better than some believers. The basis of atheism rests on the comfy idea & taken for granted concept--of order & moral modern world we live in today. (a modern world where LAWS help in to teach humans morality & doing the right thing) Their argument is, they can be moral and do right without God in the equation. (which is ridiculous as if u dont' have a guide book rule, how can you fully be moral, in the big moral issue like gay marriages or incest. If you don't have scriptures or ayaats to guide u, how can u know gay marriage is wrong? and if u say nothing wrong with gay marriage, there & then is a big flaw of lacking morals-not necessarily in the campus moral of modern standards, but Gods own moral campus standards which ALL humanity should follow) Not taking into account humans have evolved in morality as a result of religion and God, dating back to the first Hebrew scriptures is misleading or misinformed. Especially, later the coming of Prophet Muhammad pbuh in the 7th century. What they don't' know is, the fact that after the coming of the last prophet pbuh, the world's civilization hit a whole new stratosphere. Its like Internet today. Major change that propels human progressiveness. As a result of the revelation of Quran & the sunnah of our prophet pbuh, humanity improved in, hygiene, the birth of modern LAWS, laws governing humanity, morality as to what is wrong and what is right, etc etc etc It was a ripple effect purely and solely as a result of the best of the prophets pbut coming!

 

[Basra]

This thread isn't about weather atheism is correct or not but rather what the atheist world view entails.
Can someone live a normal if they apply the atheist world view on daily bases, for example how would an atheist object to beastality?.

Exactly! The modern atheist will tell you intuitively, bestiality is wrong. Or another atheist will tell you, bestiality is right because its not illegal. Or the laws of the land will make bestiality illegal, hence an atheist will then say--ok bestiality is wrong because it is illegal.

Basically an atheist will always be confused, their opinions will vary according to the particular atheist. That's why, in God's compass morality, the rules are uniform & consistent. Everyone is in the same page in morality because of Gods scriptures. As opposed to a free cow boy style of morality where humans will go with the winds, the times or culture changes.

 

[fox]

This thread isn't about weather atheism is correct or not but rather what the atheist world view entails.
Can someone live a normal if they apply the atheist world view on daily bases, for example how would an atheist object to beastality?.

Forget about theology sxb work on your english

 

[fox]

That's why, in Gods moral campus morality, the rules are uniform & consistent. Everyone is in the same page in morality because of Gods scriptures. As opposed to a free cow boy style of morality where humans will go with the winds, the times or culture changes.

Another spelling mistake

 

[HIGH PRIESTESS]

Another spelling mistake

Lol are you the resident Grammar Nazi sxb

 

[HIGH PRIESTESS]

Priestess

I am kinda surprised. I always suspected u were an atheist.

First you called me a pagan, now an atheist
eedo what have you got against me???

 

[Basra]

First you called me a pagan, now an atheist
eedo what have you got against me???

I think Pagan and Atheism is the same. LOOL

 

[Kratos]

This thread isn't about weather atheism is correct or not but rather what the atheist world view entails.
Can someone live a normal if they apply the atheist world view on daily bases, for example how would an atheist object to beastality?.

An atheist/agnostic would object to beastiality on the basis that it would bring harm to the animal and/or it is disgusting. A Muslim would object to it simply because the Quran says it's not allowed. One method applies critical thinking and reason, the other follows instructions. A better question is how do Muslims object to pedophilia when your prophet married a 9 year old? Or how do Muslims object to slavery when your religion permits it? Ultimately your moral values come from your religion and the only way they can be correct is if your religion is. The burden of proof is actually on you to prove that your god exists since you're the one who is making supernatural claims. Otherwise you can't claim to have an absolute source of morality.

In addition, most of the moral values we hold today in Western societies are as a result of applying reason and critical thinking. There are some that are remnants of the Judeo-Christian values which shaped the Western world but for the most part they are determined by political discourse. The abolition of slavery, freedom of speech, the abolition of intellectually oppressive blasphemy laws; none of these principles which the majority of us live by today owe any thanks to religion.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Atheists are immoral and should be avoided.

 

[Bile Huruse]

An atheist/agnostic would object to beastiality on the basis that it would bring harm to the animal and/or it is disgusting. A Muslim would object to it simply because the Quran says it's not allowed. One method applies critical thinking and reason, the other follows instructions. A better question is how do Muslims object to pedophilia when your prophet married a 9 year old? Or how do Muslims object to slavery when your religion permits it? Ultimately your moral values come from your religion and the only way they can be correct is if your religion is. The burden of proof is actually on you to prove that your god exists since you're the one who is making supernatural claims. Otherwise you can't claim to have an absolute source of morality.

In addition, most of the moral values we hold today in Western societies are as a result of applying reason and critical thinking. There are some that are remnants of the Judeo-Christian values which shaped the Western world but for the most part they are determined by political discourse. The abolition of slavery, freedom of speech, the abolition of intellectually oppressive blasphemy laws; none of these principles which the majority of us live by today owe any thanks to religion.

Most atheist eat meat so what more harm can be done and it being disgusting is just a mere preference. This isn't about if atheism is correct or not so please refrain from comparing.

 

[Kratos]

Most atheist eat meat so what more harm can be done and it being disgusting is just a mere preference. This isn't about if atheism is correct or not so please refrain from comparing.

I should have been more specific, I meant unnecessary harm. Killing animals for food is not the same as harming them via sex because it provides a source of food. Food is a necessity. You could argue that humans don't need to eat meat for health but that's a separate issue altogether. The act being disgusting is not just a preference, it includes the spread of infectious diseases. It is pretty much the same reasons as to why a Muslim wouldn't have sex with an animal. What is stopping you from performing beastiality, is it because the Quran says so or because you know it is unnecessarily harmful, disgusting and can spread infectious diseases? Or is it both?

 

[Bile Huruse]

I should have been more specific, I meant unnecessary harm. Killing animals for food is not the same as harming them via sex because it provides a source of food. Food is a necessity. You could argue that humans don't need to eat meat for health but that's a separate issue altogether. The act being disgusting is not just a preference, it includes the spread of infectious diseases. It is pretty much the same reasons as to why a Muslim wouldn't have sex with an animal. What is stopping you from performing beastiality, is it because the Quran says so or because you know it is unnecessarily harmful, disgusting and can spread infectious diseases? Or is it both?

I believe me being disgusted with beastality is innate plus the Quran forbids such things therefore i don't need to challenge that notion as a muslim. I don't know about the infectious diseases but lets assume there is an animal that transfer diseases at a lesser rate than humans. How would an atheist object to that beyond just finding it disgusting.