At this point who is sheikh and who isn’t?

[Amber]

Mashallah abaayo. You really had me

Please, please!

Oh, the praises!

 

[Bari🐍]

There is a famous Sheikh who was quoted saying i don't want a youth male without beard to sit in front of me. They will tempt me. He needs to sit behind me. That was his student.

I don't think it's that shocking. Some scholars say to not look at a handsome beardless man if it fills you with lust, but there was also some who would say to not even look at all to avoid temptation. Like Imam-Nawawi who said:

وكذلك يحرم على الرجل النظر إلى وجه الأمرد إذا كان حسن الصورة ، سواءً كان بشهوةٍ أم لا ، سواءً أمن الفتنة أم خافها ، هذا هو المذهب الصحيح المختار عند العلماء المحققين ، نص عليه الشافعي ، وحذاق أصحابه - رحمهم الله تعالى - ، ودليله : أنه في معنى المرأة ، فإنه يُشتهى كما تشتهى ، وصورته في الجمال كصورة المرأة ، بل ربما كان كثيرٌ منهم أحسن صورةً من كثيرٍ من النساء ، بل هم في التحريم أولى لمعنى آخر : وهو أنه يتمكن في حقهم من طرق الشر ما لا يتمكن مثله في حق المرأة


"Similarly the scholars forbade a man to look at the face of a beardless youth if he is handsome, whether with or without desire, and whether it is free of fitnah (temptation) or there is the fear thereof. This is the correct view which was favoured by the scholars. This was stated by al-Shaafa’i and the prominent scholars of his madhhab (may Allaah have mercy on them). The evidence for this is that a beardless youth is, in some ways, like a woman; he may be desired as a woman is desired, and his form may be beautiful like that of a woman, and many of them may be more beautiful than many women. The prohibition applies more to them for another reason, which is that in their case there may result from attachment to them types of evil that do not occur in the case of women"


I've always viewed this as even more proof homosexuality is not natural, but rather from the whispers of shaytan. The devil would probably rather make a man commit zina with another man instead of a woman due to the sin being more severe.

 

[Amber]

I don't think it's that shocking. Some scholars say to not look at a handsome beardless man if it fills you with lust, but there was also some who would say to not even look at all to avoid temptation. Like Imam-Nawawi who said:

وكذلك يحرم على الرجل النظر إلى وجه الأمرد إذا كان حسن الصورة ، سواءً كان بشهوةٍ أم لا ، سواءً أمن الفتنة أم خافها ، هذا هو المذهب الصحيح المختار عند العلماء المحققين ، نص عليه الشافعي ، وحذاق أصحابه - رحمهم الله تعالى - ، ودليله : أنه في معنى المرأة ، فإنه يُشتهى كما تشتهى ، وصورته في الجمال كصورة المرأة ، بل ربما كان كثيرٌ منهم أحسن صورةً من كثيرٍ من النساء ، بل هم في التحريم أولى لمعنى آخر : وهو أنه يتمكن في حقهم من طرق الشر ما لا يتمكن مثله في حق المرأة


"Similarly the scholars forbade a man to look at the face of a beardless youth if he is handsome, whether with or without desire, and whether it is free of fitnah (temptation) or there is the fear thereof. This is the correct view which was favoured by the scholars. This was stated by al-Shaafa’i and the prominent scholars of his madhhab (may Allaah have mercy on them). The evidence for this is that a beardless youth is, in some ways, like a woman; he may be desired as a woman is desired, and his form may be beautiful like that of a woman, and many of them may be more beautiful than many women. The prohibition applies more to them for another reason, which is that in their case there may result from attachment to them types of evil that do not occur in the case of women"


I've always viewed this as even more proof homosexuality is not natural, but rather from the whispers of shaytan. The devil would probably rather make a man commit zina with another man instead of a woman due to the sin being more severe.

Wow, not to be stereotypical but...

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[mrlog]

Why he quckly sanitize it? The caller mentioned my brother molested my daughter, and the Sheikh went into details about father and daughter should be separated etc etc uuff



But his point is fact laakiin-- men are going to be men. There is a famous Sheikh who was quoted saying i don't want a youth male without beard to sit in front of me. They will tempt me. He needs to sit behind me. That was his student.

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