Are women the majority in hellfire?
- Thread starter Cigaal
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Yes, according to quran.
Where does it say this in Quran? He made believer men and women the same in the sight of god. It's clearly different to the Israeliyoon which only selected 'jewish' males who is 'israel' basically JACOB. That's why the deal god gave them said 'circumize' your men so you stand out from the 'pagans' around the world, so they can identify who is 'bani israel' thru the 'circumision' it was a way of 'identification' for them, since the pagans had no clue about 'circumision'. They just drop your 'pants' lol and if it's got that 'little fatty skin over it' they would dismiss you as 'heathen' and not from their nation and they wouldn't listen to you in terms of 'prophecy' or 'god words'. But this idea of circumision wasn't passed onto their women, hence their women are basically not seen as apart of the promise of god. He blessed the SONS OF ISRAEL not the DAUGHTERS.
Islam is vastly different, there is no mention of nation, tribe beyond 'recognition' only. They are structured as 'one society' identified as Muslim and nothing else and men and women are seen as equals before god. The funny thing is the pharoah culture would circumize women and men meaning their both actually 'chosen', it seems like GOD plan was for EGYPT to take his WORD as the culture was lining up to be the convenant and then MOSES came. Notice the only woman praised in the world among all societies is ASIYA in EGYPT.
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Bruh...
النَّارِ
O gathering of women! Give in charity, for I have seen you as a majority of people in Hellfire.
They said, “Why is that, O Messenger of Allah?” The Prophet said:
تُكْثِرْنَ اللَّعْنَ وَتَكْفُرْنَ الْعَشِيرَ مَا رَأَيْتُ مِنْ نَاقِصَاتِ عَقْلٍ وَدِينٍ أَذْهَبَ لِلُبِّ الرَّجُلِ الْحَازِمِ مِنْ إِحْدَاكُنَّ
You curse others often and you are ungrateful for your livelihood. I have not seen anyone with reductions in mind and religion more capable of removing reason from a resolute man than you.
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 298, Grade: Sahih
https://abuaminaelias.com/women-majority-hellfire-explanation/
Bruh...
النَّارِ
O gathering of women! Give in charity, for I have seen you as a majority of people in Hellfire.
They said, “Why is that, O Messenger of Allah?” The Prophet said:
تُكْثِرْنَ اللَّعْنَ وَتَكْفُرْنَ الْعَشِيرَ مَا رَأَيْتُ مِنْ نَاقِصَاتِ عَقْلٍ وَدِينٍ أَذْهَبَ لِلُبِّ الرَّجُلِ الْحَازِمِ مِنْ إِحْدَاكُنَّ
You curse others often and you are ungrateful for your livelihood. I have not seen anyone with reductions in mind and religion more capable of removing reason from a resolute man than you.
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 298, Grade: Sahih
https://abuaminaelias.com/women-majority-hellfire-explanation/
That doesn't mean men and women in ISLAM are not equal before GOD, is their some sort of verse from the quran where men and women are graded differently in judgement day? we all stand before god as individuals in judgement day, no preference for gender, race, nation, or wealth class. It's different system ISLAM. Now I do understand what the hadith is talking about, it's saying your more likely to 'deviate' then men but that doesn't mean MEN don't deviate lakin way is-gaban karan raggu which women are not as likely too. That's just a character flaw, it doesn't mean GOD BLESSED MEN OVER WOMEN IN ISLAM LIKE ISRAEL. Now u need to show me where that is.
Bruh...
النَّارِ
O gathering of women! Give in charity, for I have seen you as a majority of people in Hellfire.
They said, “Why is that, O Messenger of Allah?” The Prophet said:
تُكْثِرْنَ اللَّعْنَ وَتَكْفُرْنَ الْعَشِيرَ مَا رَأَيْتُ مِنْ نَاقِصَاتِ عَقْلٍ وَدِينٍ أَذْهَبَ لِلُبِّ الرَّجُلِ الْحَازِمِ مِنْ إِحْدَاكُنَّ
You curse others often and you are ungrateful for your livelihood. I have not seen anyone with reductions in mind and religion more capable of removing reason from a resolute man than you.
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 298, Grade: Sahih
https://abuaminaelias.com/women-majority-hellfire-explanation/
Your trying to make Islam 'israeliyoon' structure like those before you. We are not from the nation of israel, what don't you understand? you are not genetically linked in anyway nor are u apart of their convenant, even if you try to structure yourself like them, it will be to no avail to you since the convenant has nothing to do with u. It's like 'xeer daarood' it has nothing to do with hawiye or isaaq to copy it's structure for hawiye and isaaq, they need to do something for themselves.
Isareliyoon waa xeer iyagu uu gaar ah, marka inaad islam ka dhigto xeerkooda waa arin cajib ah. That's one of the reasons I reject christianity, inay dhex galan xeerka israel niman europe iyo america ka yimi waa arin lala yaabo ah oo ku tusinayso inay 'babici doonto' christianity oo aduunka labo diin hari doono ti xeerka muse iyo tan xeerka islamka(fi calaam ba la yiri) meaning the rest of mankind.
Muse wuxu dhaxal kaga tagay beesha bani isarel, kama tagin reerka aduunka. It's like xeer daarood, xeerkasi wuxu kaga tagay shantisa wiil darod inay isku mamulan iyo dhinaca 'sharciga islamka' which is mankind. Those israeli desert rats cannot fool 'desert based' societies, that's why they love to fool 'farming' societies even in history, they always went after FARMERS like iraqis, syrians, levant areas. They went to 'yemen' again farming and ethiopia. They went to europe and america now. They will go to those damn BANTU farmers also. They won't mess with us don't worry, we have the same TRIBAL CULTURE, EXACT STRUCTURES like abtirsi, and desert HISTORY.
This was a long time ago arintani we were apart of the desert world also. That's why when I see Israeli culture the ANCIENT ONE, it's like looking at my OWN CULTURE NOW. It's identical.
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That's why they couldn't survive in the arabian desert notice? since the gulf arabs have settled they can begin 'infecting' them which they are as they don't recall the old culture anymore as their nothing left of the bedouin today. That's why I insist on PL to keep the rural/city ratio intact so we can fall back on our desert cultural roots and never be fooled by these JEWS in the future, because once we are settled and have no history or culture to review and baseline against the world cultures and israeli culture, they can begin 'replanting' 'seeds' of 'zion' in our minds to worship them which is the whole purpose of this filthy GOD OF ISRAEL, it's a god of nation of PEOPLE that report to the line of JACOB, he wants to bring ur foreign ass as SLAVE to his CONVENANT. That's all you will ever be to him since your outside of the PROMISE.
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You telling me there's an abundance of es in hell
It ain't 70 virgins but these es prolly got way more skill so maybe it's not so bad after all
It ain't 70 virgins but these es prolly got way more skill so maybe it's not so bad after all
Their going to be DESPISE you ZOOMALS worse then they despise ARABS. Caano iyo Geel is our culture. Guess what in jewishness it's the worst FILTH, they hate ur guts that's why. Keep jews out of Somalia raggow, balaayo ayaa nagu kala dhacayso cause we ain't no damn farming nation with a 'king' on top of us to order the peasants around to observe jewish superiorism. We are all individuals in our clan system.
Mixtures of milk and meat (Hebrew: בשר בחלב, basar bechalav, literally "meat in milk") are forbidden according to Jewish law. That's how they will recognize you the JEWS, umadi caano iyo geel and they go back to their law and say 'ahhhhhhhhh' your FILTH and must come under us. But we must not. We have the final word of god in the quran and it's recited so it can never change till the end of times. It can never be destroyed.
Its up to u somalis to decide, u believe in the final book the quran that is protected(proven) and he said LACNATULLAH ALAYKH BANI ISRAEL, or u gonna follow the jews like europeans do who says caano iyo geel waa haram meaning your not chosen by god or why u eating filth CAWAAN YAHOW bay ku oranayan. These ppl akhirki waa la babicin doono Israel.
It's going to come down to faith only. U either believe in ILLAHI RABIL ALAMEEN THE LORD OF WORLDS OR ILLAHI RABIL ISRAEL. But also keep in mind only book is recited and memorized in each generation and can be rebuilt through-out the ages, so who wud of god blessed n protected a book that cant prove it's longevity' and can be demonstrated it can be wiped out like israeli book since its man made or the quran. Thats nothing noone can force on u waryaa, its something u need to decide. I already decided long time ago, I am standing with the quran.
That's why I am telling if muhammad didn't come, we would be finished as we get taken away as slaves of israel thru the MIND or BODY. He saved us, and we must appreciate the arabs for this part of history. But the current arabs do not respect them u dont have too. Prophet left no dhaxaltoyo to arabs, he didnt even have a son, his people are muslims who-ever restores the message to as close as the prophet.
We must stay away from the arabs of today, he never said follow arabs. Somalis are stupid, arabs can fall and be led away to hell, doesnt mean u follow them. Just follow the book nothing else ba lagu yiri because it is from allah not from arabs u dumb ass. If the arabs go to hell will u join them?
Mixtures of milk and meat (Hebrew: בשר בחלב, basar bechalav, literally "meat in milk") are forbidden according to Jewish law. That's how they will recognize you the JEWS, umadi caano iyo geel and they go back to their law and say 'ahhhhhhhhh' your FILTH and must come under us. But we must not. We have the final word of god in the quran and it's recited so it can never change till the end of times. It can never be destroyed.
Its up to u somalis to decide, u believe in the final book the quran that is protected(proven) and he said LACNATULLAH ALAYKH BANI ISRAEL, or u gonna follow the jews like europeans do who says caano iyo geel waa haram meaning your not chosen by god or why u eating filth CAWAAN YAHOW bay ku oranayan. These ppl akhirki waa la babicin doono Israel.
It's going to come down to faith only. U either believe in ILLAHI RABIL ALAMEEN THE LORD OF WORLDS OR ILLAHI RABIL ISRAEL. But also keep in mind only book is recited and memorized in each generation and can be rebuilt through-out the ages, so who wud of god blessed n protected a book that cant prove it's longevity' and can be demonstrated it can be wiped out like israeli book since its man made or the quran. Thats nothing noone can force on u waryaa, its something u need to decide. I already decided long time ago, I am standing with the quran.
That's why I am telling if muhammad didn't come, we would be finished as we get taken away as slaves of israel thru the MIND or BODY. He saved us, and we must appreciate the arabs for this part of history. But the current arabs do not respect them u dont have too. Prophet left no dhaxaltoyo to arabs, he didnt even have a son, his people are muslims who-ever restores the message to as close as the prophet.
We must stay away from the arabs of today, he never said follow arabs. Somalis are stupid, arabs can fall and be led away to hell, doesnt mean u follow them. Just follow the book nothing else ba lagu yiri because it is from allah not from arabs u dumb ass. If the arabs go to hell will u join them?
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ffs u need to chill all I did was make a factual statement. U question was if women are the majority in the hellfire and I gave u direct response.
Cigaal
يا نبي سلام عليك
He asked where it was said in the Quran not hadithsBruh...
النَّارِ
O gathering of women! Give in charity, for I have seen you as a majority of people in Hellfire.
They said, “Why is that, O Messenger of Allah?” The Prophet said:
تُكْثِرْنَ اللَّعْنَ وَتَكْفُرْنَ الْعَشِيرَ مَا رَأَيْتُ مِنْ نَاقِصَاتِ عَقْلٍ وَدِينٍ أَذْهَبَ لِلُبِّ الرَّجُلِ الْحَازِمِ مِنْ إِحْدَاكُنَّ
You curse others often and you are ungrateful for your livelihood. I have not seen anyone with reductions in mind and religion more capable of removing reason from a resolute man than you.
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 298, Grade: Sahih
https://abuaminaelias.com/women-majority-hellfire-explanation/
I wish we took the oman model, halal weeye and independent and not interfering in 'gaalo alliances' it ends nowhere the gaalo, it always get replaced as time goes on since man made ideas always evolve, not this idea of god it's not going to evolve nobody can take this away from u since it's linked to faith, they can deny but can't prove it ever hence it's faith. That's what special about Islam, god beyond u means they cant prove it doesnt exist throughout the history and we can reflect back on the quran to make wise decisions no matter what era or time period we live in. Where-as thought based ideas change like buddhism can be disproven when time goes on since its linked to THOUGHTS which are measurable, a god unseen and beyond u is not measurable, it's not falling under science ever.
Where-as man made ideas like idols, stars, moon, spirits, ancestors all the ancient beliefs jews can come in and 'measure' it immediately, disprove it, change that society towards slaves of israel. Today the measurable ideas are 'thought' which can be reviewed n debunked tommorow thru new evidences and peer review, hence 'measurable' and will evolve and change and be die away. They can destroy everything the jews in the world except ISLAM since the god is not measurable and beyond us. They can at best 'reinterpret it' to suit its agenda but that wont last long as the prophetb lessed this nation to have restorers constantly thru out history to bring them back to the right path. So Islam will have set backs but it will never be destroyed and jews hate that. Where-as judaism can be proven to be destroyed, it's not MEMORIZED completely. It cant be restored without man made tools which is linked to earth which is linked to time and space and that will be destroyed.
I hope the last generation on earth OF MUSLIMS which will have 'quran memorized' like all generation does before it restore the quran and WIPES OUT WAT IS LEFT, A FEW JEWS WITH MILLIONS OF HELL BOUND SLAVES WHO R FOREIGNERS AS THEIR BIBLE QUOTE FOREIGNER WILL BE AT THEIR FEET N CHAINED so thats christianity basically sxb to a tee. Their not the seed of jacob and it doesnt matter if christians believe the seed is true or not the JEWS DO.
All my advice to muslims in the end days is remove the name of israel from earth, thru inscriptions, burn libraries, burn anywhere they store data and information, burn manuscripts burn copies of their book, they will not last. Ensure they plant no MEMORY OF ISRAEL and the kids to be born will be rebirthed into islam and the last word of god.
Where-as man made ideas like idols, stars, moon, spirits, ancestors all the ancient beliefs jews can come in and 'measure' it immediately, disprove it, change that society towards slaves of israel. Today the measurable ideas are 'thought' which can be reviewed n debunked tommorow thru new evidences and peer review, hence 'measurable' and will evolve and change and be die away. They can destroy everything the jews in the world except ISLAM since the god is not measurable and beyond us. They can at best 'reinterpret it' to suit its agenda but that wont last long as the prophetb lessed this nation to have restorers constantly thru out history to bring them back to the right path. So Islam will have set backs but it will never be destroyed and jews hate that. Where-as judaism can be proven to be destroyed, it's not MEMORIZED completely. It cant be restored without man made tools which is linked to earth which is linked to time and space and that will be destroyed.
I hope the last generation on earth OF MUSLIMS which will have 'quran memorized' like all generation does before it restore the quran and WIPES OUT WAT IS LEFT, A FEW JEWS WITH MILLIONS OF HELL BOUND SLAVES WHO R FOREIGNERS AS THEIR BIBLE QUOTE FOREIGNER WILL BE AT THEIR FEET N CHAINED so thats christianity basically sxb to a tee. Their not the seed of jacob and it doesnt matter if christians believe the seed is true or not the JEWS DO.
All my advice to muslims in the end days is remove the name of israel from earth, thru inscriptions, burn libraries, burn anywhere they store data and information, burn manuscripts burn copies of their book, they will not last. Ensure they plant no MEMORY OF ISRAEL and the kids to be born will be rebirthed into islam and the last word of god.
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Only preserve the jewish part they memorize as that is most likely MOSES PART so we dont ruin his name, the rest is garbage man made not learned to be memorized hence allah has shown us it cant be from god as it cant stand the test of time man made nonsense. Burn all that tanak nonsense. Come back to only what moses left the TORAH and then investigate it matches islam.
Do as the prophet did call the rabbis the HONEST ONES of good character and ask them about the TORAH only, forget the other garbage man made, just the memorized portions. Then just do lacnatullah alaykh to everything else that isnt memorized which is from the tribalist jews who allah warned us in the quran. Cadifadooda bay raban inay ku daran buugi illahi loo dhiibay lakin cadifaad ma haro, it isnt going to be memorized as god doesnt intend jews to be misled by that nonsense. We will save a very few jews but most will DIE AWAY WITH THE CURSED ONES
Do as the prophet did call the rabbis the HONEST ONES of good character and ask them about the TORAH only, forget the other garbage man made, just the memorized portions. Then just do lacnatullah alaykh to everything else that isnt memorized which is from the tribalist jews who allah warned us in the quran. Cadifadooda bay raban inay ku daran buugi illahi loo dhiibay lakin cadifaad ma haro, it isnt going to be memorized as god doesnt intend jews to be misled by that nonsense. We will save a very few jews but most will DIE AWAY WITH THE CURSED ONES
How can u be given the 'secrets' of life and success which is the one true god that is unseen and unmeasurable(hence lasting forever) to turn around and use that to create 'nonsensical' rabblings to 'separate' jews into a 'class' of people as 'overlords' over 'gentiles'? that is qabyalad jecel, horrendous people, a cursed people, a people u shouldn't even be associating with. When god helped you, you turn around and take that help to 'conquer' people mind and eliminate their ancient old ways since it's man made and u know it's measurable and testable? that's why I am so angry with them. I can picture myself doing this but I would have some sense of humility and stop myself, some DONT THOUGH and hence god just looks down and sees an ungrateful little shit who is no different to the other pagans at the time before he collected them up. Hence he is gotta be more angry with Israel then the rest of us, we didn't get a head-start like that. They went around creating nonsensical diet laws so they can discriminate on people diets and say 'ahhhh your not kosher or jewish' and therefore 'enslave' you thru the mind or body.
They did it with 'abtirsi' they conquered the rest of israel who FLED them in droves the 10 tribes with only JUDAH remaining and the LEVITES(AARON priesthood promise) to inherit the promise of Israel. They now include modern day discrimination but this isn't as bad as it can 'pass away' as knowledge 'evolves' like 'race, geographic location, etc', don't fear man made social constructs, fear the ones that 'last' the longest in history, their more IMPACTING. The one from 'god' is even worse and last forever like the 'curse' on Bani Israel.
I feel like blowing netanyahu head off when I see him wallahi, I feel such a rage inside for those people but I am going to have to keep composed and don't go all out like ilhan omar.
They did it with 'abtirsi' they conquered the rest of israel who FLED them in droves the 10 tribes with only JUDAH remaining and the LEVITES(AARON priesthood promise) to inherit the promise of Israel. They now include modern day discrimination but this isn't as bad as it can 'pass away' as knowledge 'evolves' like 'race, geographic location, etc', don't fear man made social constructs, fear the ones that 'last' the longest in history, their more IMPACTING. The one from 'god' is even worse and last forever like the 'curse' on Bani Israel.
I feel like blowing netanyahu head off when I see him wallahi, I feel such a rage inside for those people but I am going to have to keep composed and don't go all out like ilhan omar.
Somalis never listen to me, All I want is our people success nothing else. Not my own success. I am passing as much knowledge as I can because I study history. Listen the jews first warred with Israelites the other 10 tribes so they can 'eliminate' them from the promise of 'jacob' notice they all report to jacob, hence dagaal qabyaali ba dhacayso for hukunka torah. Judah won and kept 'aaron lineage' the priestly class the cohens to ensure he has the 'dhaxal' and he now has the RULE over Israel. He then went around and looked at all the 'circumized' people which we must of been apart of cause we had this circumision shit way before ISLAM and ARABS, this shit came to us from our ancient days and he started to 'eliminate' each one from the promise of god. He then created 'dietary' laws to eliminate the circumized nations cause he knew they were lined up for the promise or why else are they circumised lol.
Egypt was most likely to win it since they circumized both men and women meaning both units of their people were HALAL for god. Not just 'sons' in Israel. They hated this about US the ancient egyyptians and kushites. Who u think Moses married a KUSHITE. Who u think god gave the kingdom and control of earth another son of 'HAM' who is 'egypt' their not KUSH tho. Look at the insults they hurl to ancient egyptians and KUSHI. If their so bad why MOSES MARRIED THEM KU DHEH iska celiya langaab yahow. Why he didn't marry your filthy jewish women? they know their women are not apart of the promise and will be destroyed in the end also, so it's sad to see jewish women supporting ISRAEL wallahi but national and tribal love makes u do anything even if it's wild like that.
But anyways when they saw us the circumized nations(they knew were a threat) as we would argue we are CIRCUMISED too and different to the 'pagans' so they discriminated US out with 'dietary' law like don't eat meat n milk since that was our ancient culture, they probably have other dietary laws for other 'desert' type cultures. This now eliminates any threat to challenge their role or position in world religion. They then went to the uncircumized which is EASY like europe/america/etc and saw a clear 'cawaan' population who are clearly not apart of the convenant or else why are they not circumized? so their going to use these uncircumized nations to destroy all circumized 'cultures' which are very few remaining in africa today ONLY AND MOSTLY 'HERDER' TYPE CULTURE not 'farming' BANTU. Farming bantu is no different to them farming european pagan.
But luckily we were 'saved' by Muhammad, he gave us the final convenant of god which isn't linked to tribal nonsense anyways and is for all muslims regardless of culture, nations, tribes. We must stay in this convenant because ISRAEL WILL KILL US off. Israel still views the world thru the lenses of 'seed' and lineage, Islam ended this and hence the religion of the worlds baba lagu yiri, not just this world but any world that is ever discovered. In 1000 years if we in the universe and find planets and aliens or whatever we must teach them ISLAM nothing else, it's intended for the whole of the universe. That little promise of israel only the memorized portion are only allowed ahlal kitaab the rest of their man made unmemorized is a sign from god it's not from him nor does he intend it to last.
Egypt was most likely to win it since they circumized both men and women meaning both units of their people were HALAL for god. Not just 'sons' in Israel. They hated this about US the ancient egyyptians and kushites. Who u think Moses married a KUSHITE. Who u think god gave the kingdom and control of earth another son of 'HAM' who is 'egypt' their not KUSH tho. Look at the insults they hurl to ancient egyptians and KUSHI. If their so bad why MOSES MARRIED THEM KU DHEH iska celiya langaab yahow. Why he didn't marry your filthy jewish women? they know their women are not apart of the promise and will be destroyed in the end also, so it's sad to see jewish women supporting ISRAEL wallahi but national and tribal love makes u do anything even if it's wild like that.
But anyways when they saw us the circumized nations(they knew were a threat) as we would argue we are CIRCUMISED too and different to the 'pagans' so they discriminated US out with 'dietary' law like don't eat meat n milk since that was our ancient culture, they probably have other dietary laws for other 'desert' type cultures. This now eliminates any threat to challenge their role or position in world religion. They then went to the uncircumized which is EASY like europe/america/etc and saw a clear 'cawaan' population who are clearly not apart of the convenant or else why are they not circumized? so their going to use these uncircumized nations to destroy all circumized 'cultures' which are very few remaining in africa today ONLY AND MOSTLY 'HERDER' TYPE CULTURE not 'farming' BANTU. Farming bantu is no different to them farming european pagan.
But luckily we were 'saved' by Muhammad, he gave us the final convenant of god which isn't linked to tribal nonsense anyways and is for all muslims regardless of culture, nations, tribes. We must stay in this convenant because ISRAEL WILL KILL US off. Israel still views the world thru the lenses of 'seed' and lineage, Islam ended this and hence the religion of the worlds baba lagu yiri, not just this world but any world that is ever discovered. In 1000 years if we in the universe and find planets and aliens or whatever we must teach them ISLAM nothing else, it's intended for the whole of the universe. That little promise of israel only the memorized portion are only allowed ahlal kitaab the rest of their man made unmemorized is a sign from god it's not from him nor does he intend it to last.
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We don't have to do circumision crap anymore in ISLAM, you can do it if you want. It's optional if u wanna keep alive the traditions of the past like egypt, kush, etc to ensure your people know you were 'apart' of god's plan and were lined up as the nations to receive his word but something went wrong with us and this israel took it. But mind u I like to keep traditions alive but it's not mandatory as the convenant of islam isn't based on that stuff anymore, anyone can be a muslim, it's for all mankind, it's not like these filthy jews where their women are not EVEN JEWS they corrupted that shit later on which is man made. The promise is the 'males' hence their circumized, so they always married circumised women from other nations at the time knowing they were in the same league basically and not their own women. Things changed after the great age of jewish corruption, i can tell the corruption part because it's not memorized across all jewish population. Remember this is a desert culture at the time of moses like ours is now, we haven't changed, they have. It's thru 'poetry, gabays, oral transmission' desert culture, so forget the books that lack any memorisation this is a sign it has no roots in the desert culture of ancient israel and is later made up when they settled thru their rabbinical class or whoever was in charge.
Speaking indirect and in 'parables', poetry, gabay, proverbs, hikmad these are elements in desert culture, you read the torah they have a whole chapter dedicated to poetry of david, proverbs(sayings), wisdom(mentioned constantly). It's desert culture and farming societies do not under how it operates, so the religion shifted evetually to accomodate this newer lifestyle of farmers. If moses and mohamed returned they wud recognize bedouins maybe, somalis, beja, dinkas, anyone who is herder and in desert environmen cause the same elements exist in each of their society. My dad for example pays more attention when someone speaks indirectly he calls it diplomacy it's inherited from desert culture and in the cities. U gotta figure out what someone saying and if ur smart enuff, he will tell you something else thats the whole purpose of speaking indirect. Direct talking is king vs peasant societies contained in farming area its orders and heirachies. Desert culture there is no heirachy beyond a clan elder who is elected cause he amazed them with his hikmad, character, politics, etc. U cant deal with a society that is individual at the core without diplomacy, wisdom, gabays, sayings, and bedazzling and thats exactly how the ancient prophets had to operate in the desert. When they settled into cities notice how shitty their knowledge becomes, cuz its probably not from god have u thought about that.
Speaking indirect and in 'parables', poetry, gabay, proverbs, hikmad these are elements in desert culture, you read the torah they have a whole chapter dedicated to poetry of david, proverbs(sayings), wisdom(mentioned constantly). It's desert culture and farming societies do not under how it operates, so the religion shifted evetually to accomodate this newer lifestyle of farmers. If moses and mohamed returned they wud recognize bedouins maybe, somalis, beja, dinkas, anyone who is herder and in desert environmen cause the same elements exist in each of their society. My dad for example pays more attention when someone speaks indirectly he calls it diplomacy it's inherited from desert culture and in the cities. U gotta figure out what someone saying and if ur smart enuff, he will tell you something else thats the whole purpose of speaking indirect. Direct talking is king vs peasant societies contained in farming area its orders and heirachies. Desert culture there is no heirachy beyond a clan elder who is elected cause he amazed them with his hikmad, character, politics, etc. U cant deal with a society that is individual at the core without diplomacy, wisdom, gabays, sayings, and bedazzling and thats exactly how the ancient prophets had to operate in the desert. When they settled into cities notice how shitty their knowledge becomes, cuz its probably not from god have u thought about that.
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When we read the bible and quran or hadith or whatever ancient historical text, as long as their in the desert, we can relate to it cause we know what's it like. But when the text turns 'farming' area notice it's harder for us to relate too? we don't understand orders, u need to prove yourself your better then us mentally, bedazzle us with ur wisdom and we will decide if u rule.
See how Israelis dealt with Bedouins? their policy is simple it's like the english did in Africa with herders, settle down PLEASE, they know the culture, approach, and lifestyles are vastly different to what their used too. They need u settled so they can implement HEIRACHY CULTURE. They hate nothing more then some outside of the heirachy and freedom. Even mohamed used to live in the desert to ensure he knows wat is expected and even god came down and said 'u desert dwelling arabs' he means anything that in the desert not just arabs, are not easy to CONVINCE and hard headed. That's why europeans and israelis ensure desert nomads settle down, it's easier then to apply the settled culture on top of them. Like happening to us now in the west and see how we can't ADJUST to it. I can't adjust even and I been here long time. I can just glance outside the top looking back at my roots and ancestors and looking at my current environment and working out how to operate. That's why I am lucky in one aspect, I have southern family members so I have an avenue to learn settled culture and the heirachy and how they operate, cuz it will all be similar across the world.So once u don't fit into the settled culture they can start saying medical terms such as 'your not blending in' or your not adjusting, cultural shock, or what's the other one, low intellect, loooooooool. It doesn't end the social constructs but the reality is it's two different societal clashes. I seen muslims who are settled culture and wallahi their not rowdy like us and operate fine in the heirachal structures cuz they are from there.
See how Israelis dealt with Bedouins? their policy is simple it's like the english did in Africa with herders, settle down PLEASE, they know the culture, approach, and lifestyles are vastly different to what their used too. They need u settled so they can implement HEIRACHY CULTURE. They hate nothing more then some outside of the heirachy and freedom. Even mohamed used to live in the desert to ensure he knows wat is expected and even god came down and said 'u desert dwelling arabs' he means anything that in the desert not just arabs, are not easy to CONVINCE and hard headed. That's why europeans and israelis ensure desert nomads settle down, it's easier then to apply the settled culture on top of them. Like happening to us now in the west and see how we can't ADJUST to it. I can't adjust even and I been here long time. I can just glance outside the top looking back at my roots and ancestors and looking at my current environment and working out how to operate. That's why I am lucky in one aspect, I have southern family members so I have an avenue to learn settled culture and the heirachy and how they operate, cuz it will all be similar across the world.So once u don't fit into the settled culture they can start saying medical terms such as 'your not blending in' or your not adjusting, cultural shock, or what's the other one, low intellect, loooooooool. It doesn't end the social constructs but the reality is it's two different societal clashes. I seen muslims who are settled culture and wallahi their not rowdy like us and operate fine in the heirachal structures cuz they are from there.
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Cuz when my father is teaching me about the past, he doesn't just tell me 'directly' he applies indirect knowledge first so I understand what he is saying, he tests u to 'add' something to it of wisdom before he even goes on any further or else in his book you haven't grasped it. Where-as my mother is more 'orders' saan samay by force. I see cultural differences. I never see orders from my father, he applies the desert culture structure, i see both clash alot in the same household, imagine cities and countries trying to blend these two different mindsets into one, cuz they probably dont know what the issue REALLY IS.
In desert culture it's up to you to PROVE your best among the men listening before they allow u to lead, it's numerical power, they have to come to consensus and say 'wax na dhaamo odaygani ma jire' like Islam mahamed when he said that famous quote my dad refers to when he brought PL together and said 'raggow yaan lays dilin, wax ma taalo la kala dile' and the wisdom gouging of the desert then 'translates' that into different meanings like ppl sitting around which are the elders of each clan 'what does this piece of word mean' it's how all desert societies operate. That meant basically to my father 'we are killing each other and reproducing the same thing we killed' as their kids are going to take their place and the ones we are killing from each other is not bringing us peace cause if it did then it wouldn't be a constant cycle of tit for tat with no solution in the end. So lets put down our differences and soldiers and at least build up something of an elite base so we can at least kill something that is worthy that can 'ease' our 'hearts'. Hence in PL till today 'noone has handed over their weapons' hence it's not PEACE DEAL...IT'S MERELY A CEASEFIRE to rebuild ourselves and according to my father this now has allowed the vaccuum of the state to operate in peace knowing noone is going to bother touching each other untill the state reaches a stage where important people rise in each clan like that abdiqawi international court. Not these losers learning 'suuq madow education' in our universities lol
In desert culture it's up to you to PROVE your best among the men listening before they allow u to lead, it's numerical power, they have to come to consensus and say 'wax na dhaamo odaygani ma jire' like Islam mahamed when he said that famous quote my dad refers to when he brought PL together and said 'raggow yaan lays dilin, wax ma taalo la kala dile' and the wisdom gouging of the desert then 'translates' that into different meanings like ppl sitting around which are the elders of each clan 'what does this piece of word mean' it's how all desert societies operate. That meant basically to my father 'we are killing each other and reproducing the same thing we killed' as their kids are going to take their place and the ones we are killing from each other is not bringing us peace cause if it did then it wouldn't be a constant cycle of tit for tat with no solution in the end. So lets put down our differences and soldiers and at least build up something of an elite base so we can at least kill something that is worthy that can 'ease' our 'hearts'. Hence in PL till today 'noone has handed over their weapons' hence it's not PEACE DEAL...IT'S MERELY A CEASEFIRE to rebuild ourselves and according to my father this now has allowed the vaccuum of the state to operate in peace knowing noone is going to bother touching each other untill the state reaches a stage where important people rise in each clan like that abdiqawi international court. Not these losers learning 'suuq madow education' in our universities lol
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