Anyone look at Jews today and wish somalis would learn from them?

[axmedcaloolweyn]

That is not accurate representation of the Islamic position. Friendship to the exclusion and disadvantage of a Muslim, That is a no, Friendship based on common interests and as a fellow human being, yes. As long as the friendship is not causing you to commit un-islamic acts, there is no harm. And if you are weak to begin with and do as whoever befriends you does, then the problem is you and not your Jewish or christian friend.

Aren't Muslims supposed to interact and deal with others? Spread the Islamic message through good conduct and by example? How do you plan to do that from a bunker?

with the word befriend I wasn’t even talkin abt personal friendships as much as I meant Somalia having relations with Israel beyond formal diplomatic relations

 

[المهندس]

Your first sentence is contradicted by the rest of your post saxib. Look at the contradiction! If guilt is not shared and each is judged by their own deeds, and that lineage and race would not mean an automatic membership to an exclusive club or membership to a condemned club, then why are you not applying your first sentence across the board and leave it at that?

Does an example of bad-faith group of people mean that example applies and extends by virtue of lineage to other later generations?

Lastly, who is your enemy as a Muslim depends on the actions and choices made by people. If people choose, you are supposed to accept the peace and be cordial with them, if they choose animosity and declare a war on you, then you meet them on the same terms. There is no automatic label a Muslim gives to people and makes them enemies. It all depends on how others deal with you as a Muslim.

the yahud are treacherous by nature because of whats instilled in them from young by their parents so you can't necessarily say guilt its shared via lineage since everyone is born sinless ..


The yahud at the time of the prophet (pbuh) compared to now are no different.. they hate islam, they reject the last messenger, they are treacherous by spreading propaganda which favours their interests.


Being at peace with people does not mean endorsing them, establishing relations with them and agreeing with their ideas (liberalism).


Being at peace literally means being at peace.

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

The Jews do have some admirable traits and we should learn from it and implement it in Somalia but we cannot befriend any non Muslim or take them as protector as they are united against us.

I think you guys get the forbidden friendship wrong and apply it as a blanket. Think about this, a Muslim can be harmful to your faith despite their professed Islam to you and even you knowing that the person is a Muslim by faith 100%. Why is that? Let us say the Muslim is an Alcoholic, does drugs, fornicates, basically leads a destructive life, wouldn't you avoid spending time with such Muslim despite their faith?. How does the friendship of that Muslim benefit you on a personal level?

Seems to me the restriction of friendship has conditions attached to it. But outside those exclusions, a Muslim is supposed to deal with others justly, friendly, kindly and honestly. If your mindset is to be on guard to begin with on the premise that everyone who is not a Muslim is your automatic enemy, then your world is one that is filled with paranoia and ignorance of what Islam truly espouses. .

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

JEW


1 Intelligent
2 Conniving/Scheming
3 No Soul
4 Hard workers
5 Victim minded expert
6 Look out for each other


Somalis


1 Intelligent
2 Con Artists
3 Abundance of Soul
4 Lazy- Get Rich fast specialists
5 Victimizers
6 Depends on your bloody qabil

So, they have many things in common in addition to the 25% EV32 Jewish blokes who share similar ancestry.

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

I give you guys good examples on display on our tv's demonstrated by two well known somalis:

Ayan Xirsi

Used her friendship with nonmuslims to harm somalis and muslims.

Ilhan Omar

Uses her friendship to advocate for somalis and muslims


There guys, I fixed your confusion.

 

[Basra]

So, they have many things in common in addition to the 25% EV32 Jewish blokes who share similar ancestry.

The only thing they have in common is they are both Intelligent. Somalis walaahi are a very intelligent species. I have done this studies myself. The most reer baadiiye, somali can take an innocent human & go sell him or her to the open market without him or her knowledge. The trick is--how do u channel this abundance of Intelligence.


And most admirable part of Somalis is the Imaan factor. Waaahi we are a blessed people just like the Jews were once upon a time, but we just want to pretend to be people we are not.

 

[Happy_]

Learn what exactly? To be countryless and thiefs? To be sellouts and obsessed with money and dunya. Not thank you!

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

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Learn what exactly? To be countryless and thiefs? To be sellouts and obsessed with money and dunya. Not thank you!

Maashallah, Quruxleey. Big beautiful eyes.

 

[Land Of The Brave]

I think you guys get the forbidden friendship wrong and apply it as a blanket. Think about this, a Muslim can be harmful to your faith despite their professed Islam to you and even you knowing that the person is a Muslim by faith 100%. Why is that? Let us say the Muslim is an Alcoholic, does drugs, fornicates, basically leads a destructive life, wouldn't you avoid spending time with such Muslim despite their faith?. How does the friendship of that Muslim benefit you on a personal level?

Seems to me the restriction of friendship has conditions attached to it. But outside those exclusions, a Muslim is supposed to deal with others justly, friendly, kindly and honestly. If your mindset is to be on guard to begin with on the premise that everyone who is not a Muslim is your automatic enemy, then your world is one that is filled with paranoia and ignorance of what Islam truly espouses. .

Allah c;learly tells us in the Quran that they are friends and protectors of each other. And no you cannot be friends with such Muslim until they change. These gaalo are an enemy of Allah and his deen and will remain so until judgement day.

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

Allah c;learly tells us in the Quran that they are friends and protectors of each other. And no you cannot be friends with such Muslim until they change. These gaalo are an enemy of Allah and his deen and will remain so until judgement day.

Do you know majority young people in America are non-affiliated religiously speaking? You may think of them as Jewish or Christian but they aren't by faith. Most of them stop going to the church around 15 and as soon their questions and confusions are not answered or addressed. Same with the Jewish young Americans. Many of them have no connection to the Torah but support their Jewish tribe for survival.

I think the ground is ripe for Islam but Muslims are debating who to befriend. So much about spreading Islam and being a good welcoming human You can't reach people you consider enemies with a universal message, can you Abti?

 

[Basra]

Do you know majority young people in America are non-affiliated religiously speaking? You may think of them as Jewish or Christian but they aren't by faith. Most of them stop going to the church around 15 and as soon their questions and confusions are not answered or addressed. Same with the Jewish young Americans. Many of them have no connection to the Torah but support their Jewish tribe for survival.

I think the ground is ripe for Islam but Muslims are debating who to befriend. So much about spreading Islam and being a good welcoming human You can't reach people you consider enemies with a universal message, can you Abti?

Mashalaaah beautiful eyes walaal

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

Mashalaaah beautiful eyes walaal


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If there was a walk-in art shop for human design and my inputs were taken into consideration, then turned into a real life female to my liking, she would have these features including the color of her skin.

 

[Basra]

If there was a walk-in art shop for human design and my inputs were taken into consideration, then turned into a real life female to my liking, she would have these features including the color of her skin.

Nope. This is more to your liking. U like a little bit olive oil skin types with a tinge of spanish, afghanistan spice

 

[KillStreakIsCool]

Nope. This is more to your liking. U like a little bit olive oil skin types with a tinge of spanish, afghanistan spice

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I see you plan to upset the sheikhs in here with your lame waifu talk. Naga dhaaf rabshada.

 

[Saeedlfc]

f*ck Israel, they supported Ethiopia against us in 1977.

But yes we should learn from them, won't happen though. Somalis care more about religion than their country.

You're expecting advancements from people who believe this world is worthless and to just strive for "heaven"

 

[Land Of The Brave]

Do you know majority young people in America are non-affiliated religiously speaking? You may think of them as Jewish or Christian but they aren't by faith. Most of them stop going to the church around 15 and as soon their questions and confusions are not answered or addressed. Same with the Jewish young Americans. Many of them have no connection to the Torah but support their Jewish tribe for survival.

I think the ground is ripe for Islam but Muslims are debating who to befriend. So much about spreading Islam and being a good welcoming human You can't reach people you consider enemies with a universal message, can you Abti?

They are non Muslim at the end of the day, we see famous atheists attack Muslims because of our religion so their lack of religion never stops them from hating us. In spite of all of that, there are Muslims who still give them dawa hence why Islam is the fasts growing religion.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Honestly, if you think like this then your sincerity as a Muslim is questionable. I doubt anyone here really has a say in what goes on in Somalia. So you would be selling out your dīn for nothing and apparently the dīn would mean that little to you.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Do you know majority young people in America are non-affiliated religiously speaking? You may think of them as Jewish or Christian but they aren't by faith. Most of them stop going to the church around 15 and as soon their questions and confusions are not answered or addressed. Same with the Jewish young Americans. Many of them have no connection to the Torah but support their Jewish tribe for survival.

I think the ground is ripe for Islam but Muslims are debating who to befriend. So much about spreading Islam and being a good welcoming human You can't reach people you consider enemies with a universal message, can you Abti?

ah yes, the old "we need to sell out our beliefs to please the kuffar". The Quran specifically said not to do that.


They wish that you should compromise (in religion out of courtesy) with them, so they (too) would compromise with you.

-Surah Al-Qalam 68:9


It's a question of whether we want to follow the Quran or not. If you don't want to follow the Quran that's up to you. But some people would rather follow what Islam teaches. There are other routes, there's paganism, there's Christianity, there's Catholicism. If you want to hold hands and sing kumbaya with everyone and lack principles of your own, Pope Francis might suit you.

But Islam says what it says. We follow it or we don't, then we die, then we meet with our recompense on the Day of Judgement.

Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever seeks the pleasure of Allah by the displeasure of people, Allah will suffice him against the people. Whoever seeks the pleasure of people by the displeasure of Allah, Allah will leave him to the patronage of people.”

Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2414

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani

Hadith on Integrity: Pleasure of Allah better than displeasure of people

abuaminaelias.com

 

[Omar del Sur]

f*ck Israel, they supported Ethiopia against us in 1977.

But yes we should learn from them, won't happen though. Somalis care more about religion than their country.

You're expecting advancements from people who believe this world is worthless and to just strive for "heaven"

Yes, you've explained it very honestly- it's about how much one cares about their religion. At least you're being honest and not trying to pretend that you're not selling out your religion.

 

[FarxanFarax223]

f*ck Israel, they supported Ethiopia against us in 1977.

But yes we should learn from them, won't happen though. Somalis care more about religion than their country.

You're expecting advancements from people who believe this world is worthless and to just strive for "heaven"

The Islamic world is the only reason Europe is the way it is today. They didn't even bathe until four centuries after soap was invented in Arabia. Without God, what meaning is there in the world? What's the point? We're all just gonna die and be decomposed anyways.