Anyone else scared of having a daughter in the west?

[FarmingNomad]

lol, yeah you do buddy. Do not deny it.

If OP raises his daughter, and instills self respect and values then she will be fine. But, that would mean being a proactive parent. Also, I love the arrogance this forum filled with western diaspora has due to growing up in western decadence. You have no idea what living under true poverty is like. You have never experienced hunger. There is a reason your parents immigrated in the first place.

Apparently just cause I can occasionally dine on KFC I have to accept harlots in my family

 

[Sophisticate]

Your irrational fear of daughters that don't exist is an expression of unhealthy paranoia. Why even marry with that level of distrust? Were you not free mixing due to school, to network and ascend up the socio-economic ladder? I don't feel like sex segregation is possible in the west. Just raise your kids right. And if you are worried about outside influences than homeschool them. Raise children with conviction and inner strength that aren't interested in trying to placate others just to fit in and you shouldn't have to worry.

 

[Angelina]

Why are you men never scared for the deen of your sons? It seems to me that you’re okay with your sons potentially going hell as it’s never about raising the boys but about your daughters?

What about the high rates of sons selling drugs? Boys also getting into relationships and committing Zina? Boys questioning the deen? We have a lot of Kafr male posters here? Yet miraculously, you lot never worry about that do you?

Btw, freemixing is a problem back home as well. ‘Shukaansi’ is normal back home and girls would often talk to a few guys before marrying. In fact I’d say really practicing families in the West have a better understanding of how haram freemixing is than back home.

 

[Waa dhamatay]

Your irrational fear of daughters that don't exist is an expression of unhealthy paranoia. Why even marry with that level of distrust? Were you not free mixing due to school, to network and ascend up the socio-economic ladder? I don't feel like sex segregation is possible in the west. Just raise your kids right. And if you are worried about outside influences than homeschool them. Raise children with conviction and inner strength that aren't interested in trying to placate others just to fit in and you shouldn't have to worry.

What makes it an irrational fear? Isn’t an irrational fear when you fear something that poses no threat or danger? Seeing your daughter end up as qashin or crackhed definitely seems like something to be afraid of

 

[Qeelbax]

Why are you men never scared for the deen of your sons? It seems to me that you’re okay with your sons potentially going hell as it’s never about raising the boys but about your daughters?

What about the high rates of sons selling drugs? Boys also getting into relationships and committing Zina? Boys questioning the deen? We have a lot of Kafr male posters here? Yet miraculously, you lot never worry about that do you?

Btw, freemixing is a problem back home as well. ‘Shukaansi’ is normal back home and girls would often talk to a few guys before marrying. In fact I’d say really practicing families in the West have a better understanding of how haram freemixing is than back home.

There are far more male harlots in the somali community than female harlots but they’re only worried about women. Not because they care about the deen but because they are red pill misogynists that only care about restricting their daughters that don’t even exist.

Imagine being this mentally paranoid? Find Ilahi niyahow.

 

[iskufilann]

What makes it an irrational fear? Isn’t an irrational fear when you fear something that poses no threat or danger? Seeing your daughter end up as qashin or crackhed definitely seems like something to be afraid of

Seeing your daughter or son being an incel/femcel is something to be afraid of, I don't know why you are speaking tbh

 

[niggaibnh]

The idea of becoming a dayuuth is a terrifying thought, and it could very easily happen in the west. Send your girl to school/uni? Could end up in a relationship. Let her get a job? She'd be free-mixing, and also could lead to a relationship. How do fathers here cope?

Should I just marry a fob, leave her in Somalia and visit once a year so they'd grow up in a safer environment? Should I marry my daughter off at 15 to a random relative in somalia so she won't become a harlot marching through london?

Should I just stay celibate?

I've seen the state of somalis on tiktok, and I could see some of the fathers of these girls roping. Hopefully they don't, but I could see it.


Not a troll thread btw, this keeps me up at night

Not really
It all depends how u raise your daughter

 

[niggaibnh]

Yes the daughter have risks of influence such as Only fans or even ending up as baby mother but

There is also son risks like gang, drug dealer, rapper etc
If you’re not worried for your son then you shouldn’t be for daughter.
Give the same efforts that you put into your sons to your daughter as well so both can be sensible civilians.

 

[Jiron]

Daughters are a blessing, I hope I’m fortunate enough to be a girl dad

 

[Smokybob03]

honestly if self deletion was halal, the only time i would ever consider it is if i found out the daughter i raised for 18-20 years turned out to be a sharmuta like many are today, regardless of their culture, theres a lot in every demographic. i have completely failed not only as a father but as a human being and man. one of the MOST ultimate L's and sadly a LOT of fathers are that ultimate L today, muslim or non muslim. Scary

 

[Smokybob03]

Why are you men never scared for the deen of your sons? It seems to me that you’re okay with your sons potentially going hell as it’s never about raising the boys but about your daughters?

What about the high rates of sons selling drugs? Boys also getting into relationships and committing Zina? Boys questioning the deen? We have a lot of Kafr male posters here? Yet miraculously, you lot never worry about that do you?

Btw, freemixing is a problem back home as well. ‘Shukaansi’ is normal back home and girls would often talk to a few guys before marrying. In fact I’d say really practicing families in the West have a better understanding of how haram freemixing is than back home.

i agree but its the concept that women are more, to be blunt, the gender that is more cherished, especially when young and growing up. Men can typically handle life's challenges, women are the gender that should be protected, it is not only innate but allah commands men to protect their women. there isnt a verse that states women have to protect men. it all makes biological and social sense too.

 

[Sophisticate]

What makes it an irrational fear? Isn’t an irrational fear when you fear something that poses no threat or danger? Seeing your daughter end up as qashin or crackhed definitely seems like something to be afraid of

Lol. I have never done a drug, alcohol nor fornicated and was western born. I also lived alone during university. I have confidence in myself and my discernment which I will pass on to my kids irrespective of gender. I'A.

People turn to drugs for a number of reasons. Trauma being one of them. Perhaps, protect your future kids and raise them right and you don't have to dream up worst case scenarios.
Probabilistically, your son is more likely to kill you than your daughter. Psychopaths/Anti-Socials are commonly male. So if you are going to play this paranoia game showcase potential problems among both.

I have infinitely more reasons to fear men but I don't have irrational fears about them. It's called threat assessment and situational awareness. I suggest you learn as you are more likely to be physically assaulted by nimaan than I am.

 

[killerxsmoke]

The idea of becoming a dayuuth is a terrifying thought, and it could very easily happen in the west. Send your girl to school/uni? Could end up in a relationship. Let her get a job? She'd be free-mixing, and also could lead to a relationship. How do fathers here cope?

Should I just marry a fob, leave her in Somalia and visit once a year so they'd grow up in a safer environment? Should I marry my daughter off at 15 to a random relative in somalia so she won't become a harlot marching through london?

Should I just stay celibate?

I've seen the state of somalis on tiktok, and I could see some of the fathers of these girls roping. Hopefully they don't, but I could see it.


Not a troll thread btw, this keeps me up at night

if you raise your daughter right then u have nothing to fear

 

[webslooth]

You shouldn't be too scared as long as you raise your daughter right and keep checking uo on her especially her hormonal years those years are the most dangerous,

 

[Yaraye]

I personally want daughters more than sons. I love both genders but raising sons scare the crap out of me. How about if he gets into gangs, drugs, get a woman prego from wedlock, rapes a woman, shoots in the streets, dies in the street?.....etc Raising a son is actually a bigger fear for me than raising a daughter. Putting a son on the right path is extremely hard. Wallahi raising a daughter is easier to me

 

[Odious Delirium]

Just be proactive and in your children's lives and they will turn out ok. If your not on the straight and narrow and you partook in messed up stuff it's going to be a trial for you when you have kids.
So don't do any of that stuff to people's daughters and none of it inshallah will happen to your daughters aslong as you raise them well.

 

[R1ALIST]

There are far more male harlots in the somali community than female harlots but they’re only worried about women. Not because they care about the deen but because they are red pill misogynists that only care about restricting their daughters that don’t even exist.

Imagine being this mentally paranoid? Find Ilahi niyahow.

A daughter being lead astray tarnish a families reputition and honour alot more this goes for every single ajnabi community in the west, is it a hypocricy? yes indeed but that’s reality. ik a family whose daughter got a garac kid since then they’ve completly disconnected themself from the Somali community which is very sad indeed.

Most Somali guys in the west got a option however retire your beloved hooyo and let her raise your daughters back home.

 

[Hybrid()]

That's a real life nightmare, imagine your daughter being used like a quick side chick or rebound by some unknown man from who knows where, isn't just dangerous it's repulsive. By the time i'm starting a family, I'll make sure to raise the conservative and back home.

I don't think back home is gonna help.
My cousin recently got pregnant out of wedlock. She named a local farax from her subclan who was eventually forced to marry her but my sister whom she was staying with told me she was courting at least 2 other guys before she got knocked up. If a hoe trait runs in your family, all you can do is pray and hope for the best I guess

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

Hoes and criminals are created by upbringing. You have nothing to worry about if you're not going to be a deadbeat dad.

 

[Angelina]

I don't think back home is gonna help.
My cousin recently got pregnant out of wedlock. She named a local farax from her subclan who was eventually forced to marry her but my sister whom she was staying with told me she was courting at least 2 other guys before she got knocked up. If a hoe trait runs in your family, all you can do is pray and hope for the best I guess

Anyone that has been back home will tell you for free that freemixing happens a lot and there isn’t any of the awkwardness you find between Western Abdis and Xalimos from conservative families. Obviously, back home has its perks as children aren’t exposed to haram foreign ideologies, hijab is a must and certain values and daqan is a given, but temptation is everywhere in this world.

A lot of the male posters here, simply don’t want to put in the work that is needed for child to come out well rounded and grounded. A lot of it is plain old Jahiliya that was found in Pre-Islam Arabia in which they’ll bury or discount their daughters due to fear of ‘ceeb’. Ironically, in most cultures including Somalis, once old age hits, those fathers all of a sudden have a preference for daughters as once old age kicks in, it’s your girls not your boys who’ll visit all the time and care for you. Most boys do not look after their parents. Even in cultures in the which the parents stay with the son, their child does nothing and they rely on their daughter in law as a gloried maid to do their bidding and their daughter visits to also check in on them.