Wait... now, am I the only one to whom this is stranger than fucking an old Chinese lady?
Anyone else lose your virginity before marriage?
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Aaegal
I have no proof, only whispers
Why is it a sin? What is so wrong about to consenting adults making love and enjoying each others company...
AIOPZ
Pan-Islamist
The fact that Allah (SWT) made it haram should already be enough reason not to engage in it, but just to give some specific reasons for its danger:
1. It ruins your iman
2. Brings dishonor to your family
3. It may lead to the murder of young children (more commonly known as abortion)
4. May create unwanted children in foster homes
5. May ruin your halal sex with your wife/husband and increase the chance of divorce
6. It will leave you vulnerable to many STIs and STDs all the way from HIV/AIDs to Gonoherra
Like I said, though, the fact that it harms your relationship with the Almighty (SWT) should be reason enough.
Aaegal
I have no proof, only whispers
Those are not good enough reasons for eternal damnation. So I guess the only reason people get sent to hell is for disobeying what god says and not the act itself. There is nothing inherently wrong about premarital sex.
Whether your family is okay with premarital sex or not, how does it bring shame to them? Its your private life and they should have nothing to do with it.
If you want to stop abortion and limit the transfer of STIs then sex education plays a major role in their reduction. On the subject of abortions, there are legitimate reasons to have them so I'm not for an outright ban on it.
As for foster care, look at the state the world is in friend. People start wars, die from diseases, accidents and so on. To put the blame on premarital sex is absurd.
AIOPZ
Pan-Islamist
Allah (SWT) discouraged extramarital affairs so ultimately it's an evil act that distances us from our Lord (SWT).
Also, any sort of sexual encounter automatically increases your chance of obtaining an STI/STD so I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to argue there.
Your family will be humiliated and so it not only brings you and the person you're doing it shame, it also brings your family who had nothing to do with your encounter shame once people start talking about it.
Since so many bad things are already happening in the world, maybe we can all try to work together to make it a little bit nicer by not engaging in extramarital affairs that result in abandoned children
Aaegal
I have no proof, only whispers
Allah (SWT) discouraged extramarital affairs so ultimately it's an evil act that distances us from our Lord (SWT).
Also, any sort of sexual encounter automatically increases your chance of obtaining an STI/STD so I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to argue there.
Your family will be humiliated and so it not only brings you and the person you're doing it shame, it also brings your family who had nothing to do with your encounter shame once people start talking about it.
Since so many bad things are already happening in the world, maybe we can all try to work together to make it a little bit nicer by not engaging in extramarital affairs that result in abandoned children
I'll never understand your viewpoint... Murder, rape, theft, cheating, I get being 'sinful' as those negatively affect others but a consensual experience? I don't buy that.
Again, if my children were to have premarital sex, I would find no humiliation in that whatsoever. It's their private life and I have no business thinking about it or talking about it. I find talking behind peoples backs way more distasteful than premarital sex yet that isn't something to go to hell over and Muslim people do it all the time.
Yes, chances of STIs increase with the more sexual encounters you have, but there are ways to limit it. You can abstain from sex until you find someone special which I have no issue with or you can use protection and make sure you have open dialogue with those you're engaging with.
Don't put orphaned children on premarital sex. There are other worldly reasons that have caused the issue at a far greater rate. Look at Somalia, years of civil war has orphaned children and for what reason? Tribal bullshit.
Disgusting an old asian women?!
The only thing that tops this is smashing a trap, my god.. A old Chinese female! I would kill myself if I was you. Or become asexual and be lonely for the rest of thy life.
Wow, I never knew these fourms were so kind and supportive.
Also, traps are not gay. Have you seen those traps in Thailand? Wallahi if I had the time and money for a vacation..........
He said "I could never tell another soul" but he just told strangers on the internet. I could be hacker for all u know and I could go find you and tell your mum the truth
But seriously you shouldn't have come telling us. You should go and repent to Allah. Zina is a big sin u know even worse than alcohol and gambling.
But seriously you shouldn't have come telling us. You should go and repent to Allah. Zina is a big sin u know even worse than alcohol and gambling.
I don’t get why people are so afraid about disclosing their sexual history with their partners. What’s so shameful about exploring your sexuality?? It’s a natural human experience.
AIOPZ
Pan-Islamist
Lol explain??
I can't. I thought you were super conservative Muslim. Then you shared some of your views so I suspected you were the liberal variant... but then you seemed in line with at least social conservatism. And now you're throwing this bookey question around. And most shockingly, you were British this whole time.
You, maybe. Who knows: Homosexuality is an abomination, but Hitler did nothing wrong
Lol I’m a conservative personally but at the same time I don’t give a flying f*ck what people choose to do with their lives or behind their bedroom door. I’m not the shariah crusader-type conservative.
Sometimes I find it hard to believe you are a genuine Somali male. Is it possible for Abdi’s to be so progressively open-minded, thoughtful and intelligent??
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Nothing wrong with it. If it comes up in the future with a prospective wife you should be honest about it though.
People are being unrealistic in thinking people in their late 20s early 30s are virgins. It is just not biologically feasible at a grand scale. Since that's the range most people get married, other than doomed halal sex marriages in your early 20s divorced by 25.
Would I prefer being a 15 year old husband who got in a girl's bed as a teenager like previous generations did? Sure, but this is the here and the now, gotta be pragmatic.
People are being unrealistic in thinking people in their late 20s early 30s are virgins. It is just not biologically feasible at a grand scale. Since that's the range most people get married, other than doomed halal sex marriages in your early 20s divorced by 25.
Would I prefer being a 15 year old husband who got in a girl's bed as a teenager like previous generations did? Sure, but this is the here and the now, gotta be pragmatic.
It's not good to talk of your past behaviors.
depends how she looks, you got any pics? Post a pic of someone who resembles herI wasn't really planning on anything but yesterday I was talking to this middle age Chinese woman in my apartment building and said that's a nice tattoo on her breast. Then we talked more in her apartment and now I just left her place and heading to school.
I can NEVER tell another soul about this, my hoyoo would spread this shit like wildfire. But I don't really regret it.
Anyone else had a similar experience?
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